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5.0 out of 5 stars Great book from 1959, December 15, 2004
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This review is from: Marriage: East and West, (Paperback)
This book, written by a Christian couple who were marriage counselors and widely traveled in Asia, is a gem.

The Maces write "We should not begin to understand the East today until we recognize the contempt and disgust with which many Asians view what they consider to be our standards of man/woman relationships. They have a mental picture of the United States as a land of lecherous men, shameless women, sex-mad youth, and children beyond all control. Unfortunately, among those who hold this view are some who have visited the West."

Those were the good old days of the '50s, remember.

The Maces provide a wonder explanation of the Western "gamble" on personal liberty that goes hand in hand with equality between the sexes - and must, therefore, rule out arranged or polygynous marriage.

"We saw the world divided roughly into two major camps, based on two major ideological concepts of human society," wrote the Maces. "The first concept held that the way to make society work successfully is to create hierarchies - to put the majority of the people under the domination of a few leaders who would run their lives for them, tell them what to do, and see that they did what they were told. To try to run either the family or the community on any other basis than this authority-obedience, dominance-submission pattern would, it was believed, result in chaos and disorder. In one form or another, this is the concept of society that has been basic throughout human history, in East and West alike.

"The second concept, however, challenges this. It declares that the best way to make human society work successfully is to give to each individual the maximum amount of personal freedom, autonomy and self-determination that his is able to handle responsibly, and to increase his freedom progressively as he learns to accept more and more responsibility for himself. It is this daring doctrine upon which the Western world of today has staked everything."

The Maces describe this as "the gamble of operating a culture, and the family life upon which that culture is based, on the principle of the freedom of the individual."

Once the Maces had explained this principle to their Asian audiences, they say, criticism gave way to admiration. "For they perceived that at the root of the whole concept lay a belief in the sacred worth of the individual."

"They now saw the chaos and confusion in our family life not as ruin and disaster, but as the price we were having to pay for our tremendous venture in seeking to create a society of men and women free to find themselves and to be themselves."

The Maces note "The evidence is overwhelming that the patriarchal family cannot ultimately survive in the new kind of industrial society that is coming into being in the modern world."

The Maces report with a definite bias toward democracy - both within the culture and the family upon which the culture is built. But they are not judgmental in their descriptions of the horrors and blessings of traditional Asian family life.

Their chapters:

1. The Reign of the Patriarch

2. Change of Model in the West

3. What Is a Woman Worth?

4. Sex in the Orient

5. Romance Is too Dangerous

6. Who Picks Your Partner?

7. Getting Married, Eastern Style

8. Child Wives of India

9. Who Keeps Concubines?

10. Married Life and Married Love

11. The Widow's Fiery Sacrifice

12. Above All, Give Us Children!

13. The Future of Marriage

Appendix: Marriage in Communist China.

I read this book years ago, and the Maces' views have stuck with me. It's written for everyone, without social sciences jargon.

Obviously, we haven't yet found our footing regarding our Western "gamble," but it is likely to be more of a gamble to turn our back on family democracy.

This is a good book to have alongside Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tale"; Sarah Hrdy's "The Woman That Never Evolved" and "Mother Nature, A History of Mothers, Infants and Natural Selection"; Arlene Skolnick's "Embattled Paradise, The American Family in an Age of Uncertainty"; and Stephanie Coontz's "The Way We Never Were: American Families and the Nostalgia Trap."
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5.0 out of 5 stars The best book I've read on East-West marriage, August 16, 2005
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This review is from: Marriage: East and West, (Paperback)
Although this book is not intended to address intercultural marriage per se, it is the most helpful book I have read that explains differences between the "East" and of the "West" in marriage and societal structure. I cannot believe that the Maces wrote this book in the 1950s; it is right on the money in terms of the conflicts that I and my 20-something friends are encountering in our marriages. If you are an American woman married to a man from China, Japan, or India (the main countries covered in this book) you must read this book. All of the modern intercultural marriage books I have read are just fluff compared to this book. Fluffy books on conflict resolution won't help until you have a deep understanding of the underlying conflicts. Many second-generation immigrants to America are, naturally, confused about which cultural traditions they want to espouse and may not even be aware that they are heavily influenced by their parents' cultures. For their spouses, this can be a bewildering and frustrating experience. This book will help you understand where they are coming from. Similarly, this book may help you understand some of your own prejudices and underlying beliefs, from our wonderful, if troubled, American culture. Do yourself a favor and read this incredible, fascinating sociological treatise. I couldn't put it down. Granted, the book is may not be the entire gospel; the authors were marriage counselors, not scientists. But they have clearly done their research, and the bibliography is extensive. The authors try to be balanced, pointing out the positive and negative aspects of both the "Eastern" and the "Western" approach to marriage. They are asking huge questions: which approach to family life is "better"? Will one approach "win" in the future? If so, what do we stand to lose, on both sides? What do we stand to gain? These are very important questions about the structure of society, the opportunities available to women, the type of companionship we want to have with our life partner, and how we want to raise our children.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Very detailed and observant book on arranged marriages, October 24, 2002
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Jigar Patel (Santee, SC United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Marriage: East and West, (Paperback)
This book will answer all of your questions regarding how marriages are/were conducted in the East. Arranged marriages are very misunderstood in western society and the benefits thereof. Every person of the east and west who is confused as to why/how did/does arranged marriages work(ed) should read this book to get a better explanation. Arranged marriages were a part of western culture until King Henry V (father of current Queen Elizabeth) married in a love marriage. We have a 50% divorce rate in america and is rising, the fundamentals our ancestors gave to us should be worth the time to acknowledge. This book will help to gain a better perspective on this ancient marriage system that is still practiced in many parts of the world today with more success than that of our western culture.
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