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If you believe this, I have bridge in brooklyn to sell you..., December 16, 2011
I will say this and be done with it:
Freemasons are not bent on controlling the world.
Freemasonry is not a religion.
Freemasons do not worship Satan/Lucifer/The Devil
Freemasonry only requires that you believe in a supreme being. I.E- A God/Deity/What have you.
Freemasonry generally doesn't give a rats behind if you are Wiccan/Catholic/Buddhist/Muslim/WHATEVER.
Freemasonry is not evil.
And if you really think differently, then you have never met a mason/gone to a masonic event and seen how long it takes for them to decide *what kind of sandwiches to eat at their next meeting*.
SERIOUSLY. Think for yourself. Do your research.
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Bill Schnoebelen is Still a Satanist, February 2, 2011
I offer the observation that Bill Schnoebelen is still a satanist, in this sense: Satan, as you recall, is the Father of Lies, and about the only things in this book that are NOT lies are that there is such a thing as Freemasonry, and the author of this book's name is Bill Schnoebelen, and he was at one time a Freemason.
Bill doesn't write his books for Catholics (old Order or RC), Satanists, Wiccans, Mormons, Freemasons -- or vampires(smirk). Rather, he writes his books for those Christians who are afraid of such things as Catholicism, Wicca, Satanism, Mormonism, Freemasonry, and vampires, and are willing to pay a storyteller like Schnoebelen to tell them scary stories about the same. His presentation is of the Christian "testimony" variety, and from this perspective at least, is not unlike that of Mike Warnke or John Todd. I would at the very least "Wiki" Schnoebelen before investing (spiritually, emotionally or financially) in his stories. Oh, and be sure to Wiki ALL these characters, btw. They provide some interesting comparative studies.
Some might think that my remarks are merely ad-hominem attack, but the truth is that in this case, Bill's personal life and character are legitimate areas to question. This is because Bill's own authority in these subjects doesn't come from his deep knowledge of the relevant literatures, but almost entirely from his claim to know by his own firsthand experience. So, the legitimacy of his claims in such matters is important. If, for instance, Bill is claiming to have been a member of Palladian Masonry and there is no such thing, then one might conclude that Bill's lie precludes the possibility that surrounding claims might be true.
The timelines of Bill's stories alone are nigh well impossible unless he was being duplicitous. I'd suggest that not only WAS he being duplicitous, but that this is a pattern that continues in his current life -- as evidenced by the books he publishes, and the sometimes silly claims he makes. Bill was certainly a Wiccan (aka Christopher P. Syn), a Mormon, a Freemason, and a Catholic (Old Order, not Roman Catholic and he certainly was never a Jesuit). Maybe he was a Satanist as well. The actual timeline for these associations present problems in terms of his "testimony," in terms of his personal integrity, and in terms of the overall validity of his claims.
Some of the evidentiary material which Schnoebelen uses to discredit Freemasonry in this book are long-since proven hoaxes and frauds. This is not only known because they have internal inconsistencies, falsehoods and outright impossibilities which prove them to be frauds, but in the case of Leo Taxil at least, also because the perpetrator admitted to the hoax when they were caught by the press.
I would like to say you should "pass" on this book. However, for the critical reader who is familiar with the structure of Freemasonry and its history, the book presents an interesting study of how a master deceiver spins a web of lies to catch both popularity and money from a superstitious community. As many non-Masons are spreading the claims of this book far and wide, familiarity will allow for the best factual responses by Masons faced with questions based upon Schnoebelen's material. As a corrective to the unmitigated nonsense of "Masonry Beyond the Light," I'd like to recommend
Is it True What They Say About Freemasonry?, Revised, which is not written as a response to Schnoebelen, but nevertheless provides solid answers to similar issues.
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I'm glad Bill still loves Jesus after 20 years..., January 9, 2008
This review is from: Masonry: Beyond the Light (Paperback)
ad hominem (abusive): instead of attacking an assertion, the argument attacks the person who made the assertion.
Though it unlikely Bill remembers me from our short conversation at the Salt Lake City conferance back in the late 1980s, I remember his Christian character during that time as humble, direct, and unashamed of the good news of the cleansing blood of Jesus Christ. Now, I see that his faith in Christ has persisted for more years in Christianity than in any of his other attempts to find truth. He has finally found one infinately superior to all those of the past! I rejoice with Bill and all others who prefer to live naked before the whole lighted counsel of the Living God, in contrast to the vast multitude of abusers and snakes who perfer to hide in the shadows out of shame for their sins and corruption.
I will shout this right out! I would rather be associated with someone who attempts to overcome the adversary by the Blood of the Lamb, the word of his testimony, and the loving not his life unto the death. There is always a price to pay for coming out of darkness. Since Bill has lived this long after rejecting darkness, no doubt he has suffered much. Praise HaShem for protecting Bill's life all these years since he began to trust in Christ. You who contemplate the risks of fear of death for leaving the works of darkness, should let it sink in deeply that if the uncreated Lord God of the Universe protects William Schnoebelen, then there is solid hope that if you forsake this cestpool of darkness, the uncreated Lord God of the Universe is well able to protect you also. Think about it.
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