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Masonry: Beyond the Light

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I will say this and be done with it:

Freemasons are not bent on controlling the world.

Freemasonry is not a religion.

Freemasons do not worship Satan/Lucifer/The Devil

Freemasonry only requires that you believe in a supreme being. I.E- A God/Deity/What have you.

Freemasonry generally doesn't give a rats behind if you are Wiccan/Catholic/Buddhist/Muslim/WHATEVER.

Freemasonry is not evil.

And if you really think differently, then you have never met a mason/gone to a masonic event and seen how long it takes for them to decide *what kind of sandwiches to eat at their next meeting*.

SERIOUSLY. Think for yourself. Do your research.

I offer the observation that Bill Schnoebelen is still a satanist, in this sense: Satan, as you recall, is the Father of Lies, and about the only things in this book that are NOT lies are that there is such a thing as Freemasonry, and the author of this book's name is Bill Schnoebelen, and he was at one time a Freemason.

Bill doesn't write his books for Catholics (old Order or RC), Satanists, Wiccans, Mormons, Freemasons -- or vampires(smirk). Rather, he writes his books for those Christians who are afraid of such things as Catholicism, Wicca, Satanism, Mormonism, Freemasonry, and vampires, and are willing to pay a storyteller like Schnoebelen to tell them scary stories about the same. His presentation is of the Christian "testimony" variety, and from this perspective at least, is not unlike that of Mike Warnke or John Todd. I would at the very least "Wiki" Schnoebelen before investing (spiritually, emotionally or financially) in his stories. Oh, and be sure to Wiki ALL these characters, btw. They provide some interesting comparative studies.

Some might think that my remarks are merely ad-hominem attack, but the truth is that in this case, Bill's personal life and character are legitimate areas to question. This is because Bill's own authority in these subjects doesn't come from his deep knowledge of the relevant literatures, but almost entirely from his claim to know by his own firsthand experience. So, the legitimacy of his claims in such matters is important. If, for instance, Bill is claiming to have been a member of Palladian Masonry and there is no such thing, then one might conclude that Bill's lie precludes the possibility that surrounding claims might be true.

The timelines of Bill's stories alone are nigh well impossible unless he was being duplicitous. I'd suggest that not only WAS he being duplicitous, but that this is a pattern that continues in his current life -- as evidenced by the books he publishes, and the sometimes silly claims he makes. Bill was certainly a Wiccan (aka Christopher P. Syn), a Mormon, a Freemason, and a Catholic (Old Order, not Roman Catholic and he certainly was never a Jesuit). Maybe he was a Satanist as well. The actual timeline for these associations present problems in terms of his "testimony," in terms of his personal integrity, and in terms of the overall validity of his claims.

Some of the evidentiary material which Schnoebelen uses to discredit Freemasonry in this book are long-since proven hoaxes and frauds. This is not only known because they have internal inconsistencies, falsehoods and outright impossibilities which prove them to be frauds, but in the case of Leo Taxil at least, also because the perpetrator admitted to the hoax when they were caught by the press.

I would like to say you should "pass" on this book. However, for the critical reader who is familiar with the structure of Freemasonry and its history, the book presents an interesting study of how a master deceiver spins a web of lies to catch both popularity and money from a superstitious community. As many non-Masons are spreading the claims of this book far and wide, familiarity will allow for the best factual responses by Masons faced with questions based upon Schnoebelen's material. As a corrective to the unmitigated nonsense of "Masonry Beyond the Light," I'd like to recommend Is it True What They Say About Freemasonry?, Revised, which is not written as a response to Schnoebelen, but nevertheless provides solid answers to similar issues.

ad hominem (abusive): instead of attacking an assertion, the argument attacks the person who made the assertion.

Though it unlikely Bill remembers me from our short conversation at the Salt Lake City conferance back in the late 1980s, I remember his Christian character during that time as humble, direct, and unashamed of the good news of the cleansing blood of Jesus Christ. Now, I see that his faith in Christ has persisted for more years in Christianity than in any of his other attempts to find truth. He has finally found one infinately superior to all those of the past! I rejoice with Bill and all others who prefer to live naked before the whole lighted counsel of the Living God, in contrast to the vast multitude of abusers and snakes who perfer to hide in the shadows out of shame for their sins and corruption.

I will shout this right out! I would rather be associated with someone who attempts to overcome the adversary by the Blood of the Lamb, the word of his testimony, and the loving not his life unto the death. There is always a price to pay for coming out of darkness. Since Bill has lived this long after rejecting darkness, no doubt he has suffered much. Praise HaShem for protecting Bill's life all these years since he began to trust in Christ. You who contemplate the risks of fear of death for leaving the works of darkness, should let it sink in deeply that if the uncreated Lord God of the Universe protects William Schnoebelen, then there is solid hope that if you forsake this cestpool of darkness, the uncreated Lord God of the Universe is well able to protect you also. Think about it.

Excellent. Anyone who is curious about the inner workings of Freemasonry should read this. It is an eye opener to say the least. Those who think that they can be a christian and a mason at the sametime will be enlightened.

Mr. Schnoebelen's book absolutely blows the lid off of the religion of Freemasonry! The author provides a detailed, in depth look into this insidious cult of Satan and he does so in a very logical, easy to follow manner. Masons who claim to be Christian will, of course, flatly deny that Freemasonry is a religion and will furthermore dismiss Mr. Schnoebelen and others as "phonies." This book will provide more than adequate ammunition to refute any Mason who would insist that the Lodge is Christian. Give him the names of a couple of his illustrious Lodge brothers: Aleister Crowley; infamous Satanist, Anton LeVay; author of the satanic bible! Ask him about General Albert Pike, the Grand Commander, Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry who said that the "Masonic Religion should be ....maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.....Lucifer is God!" Ask him about Baphomet, Mah-hah-bone, Jabulon or Abaddon! Why does the Shrine (A.A.O.N.M.S) require that it's initiates swear an oath to Allah with his hand on the Qu'ran. I also recommend "Freemasonry" by former worshipful master, Jack Harris. (Starting on page 117 read about the deathbed confession of Henry L. Valance of the murder of Capt. William Morgan!) The bottom line is that the deception, lies and secrets of the religion of Freemasonry have been exposed. The evidence is irrefutable and damning. The proscecution rests, Your Honor!

this is a great read. it is so good you wont be able to put it down. i also recommend ron rhodes book, masons reasoning from the scriptures. get both and really enjoy learning about masonry and how they twist the bible. enjoy.

If you saw some people who were down and out not being very successful in life, but after they joined a secret club they ended up being very well off and had the life of Reilly, you'd think "thats the way to go, how do I join up"?
The lower degree masons are constently kept in the dark by the higher degree Masons, kind of symbolic isn't it? they are always searching for light.
Let me ask you this, when you are in a dark barely lit room and are brought in blind folded, told to get on your knees and repeat an oath with a spear pressed against your heart, did you ever think that this group may not be at all what those out side the group have been lead to believe it is? For those masons reading this, I am speaking directly to you guys. When you swore that if you agreed to have tour tounge yanked out by the roots and your throat slashed from ear to ear if you revealed any secrets of the lodge, did it ever occure to you that there was a very sinister reason for this?

When you go to the lavish partys you'll notice the beautiful ladys there who always seem to take an interest in you and after a few drinks she will suggest that you go with her to her room for a little fun and "don't worry, your wife will never find out".
She's right about that providing that you do what you are told later on by the higher ups when they what you to "TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS" so to speak for the lodge or a "BROTHER". If you do, your wife will never get to see the pictures or the video that was being taken from behind a two way mirror or the in room hidden camera that was showing you "getting busy" with the lady you were partying with at the lodge convention. If you dont do what you are told, you'll be looking at divorce and endless problems the rest of your life. Thats the kind of group you just joined, one that blackmails it's members into secrecy for life. Something else too, being blackmailed is the only way a Mason can get beyond the 3rd degree on up to the 32nd degree.

If you ever make it up to the 33rd degree, you'll learn why the 33rd's and above have their own meetings with out the 32nd's and below being invited, that is because the 33rd's and above openly pray to LUCIFER by name this is the organization that you have joined. Try telling the higher ups that you want to get out and see what happens to you future. Take care Masons and I hope that you find the light that you've been searching for. If you get out of Masonry you will find the light of GOD but if you stay in Masonry, the only light at the end of their tunnel, is the light from the fires of hell. Check out the video "FREEMASONRY FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT". it has testimony from former Masons, you're thinking "FORMER MASONS?" thats right former Masons, listen to their testimony and see why they are former Masons.

Several other reviewers have been touting Schnobelen as a 'Mormon, Mason and Satanist'...

I hope those people realize that his own writings place him in all three of those groups at once, as well as several others that never existed *and* several that don't even *offer* the services he claims to have obtained.

William Schnobelen has nothing of any use to teach anyone who isn't interested in the Religious Right's pandering drivel.

While I was researching (Yes, Mr. Schnobelen, the 'R' word) this man's 'works' (and I use the term very loosely indeed), I came across several web-pages and directions to articles -- not only by those of other faiths, but by those of *his own faith* -- that thoroughly debunk the pablum that Schnobelen expects us all to lap up willingly.

Avoid this book like the plague.

How many books do you buy and read and buy and read, just to find that one book which will make a profound change? Well this is that book, believe me. (Even if you are not that interested in Masonry, because this book is about much, much more than Masonry).
So, why is it good?
It is well written. It is easy to read. It is interesting. (So interesting, it reads like a novel). It is relevant. It is thought provoking. It will cause you to look at things differently. It will make you a better person. What more do you want in a book? My copy is doing the rounds. But as soon as I get it back, I am going to read it again. Again.

Anyone who really thinks Masonry is harmless should read this book. This is a man who was in it (and I mean deep in it), and was able to find his way out, thank God.

William Schnoebelen is a former Mason, Mormon, and Satanist. This book isn't just based on good research into Masonry, although he clearly has done some solid research. But this is largely based on his intimate knowledge of the rituals an secrets of Freemasonry. Truly this man gives us a peek behind the curtain to see Masonry's dark side.