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  • Paperback: 280 pages
  • Publisher: BookSurge Publishing (May 10, 2006)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1419622579
  • ISBN-13: 978-1419622571
  • Product Dimensions: 7 x 0.6 x 10 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.4 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (6 customer reviews)
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By M. A. Cross on June 26, 2006
Format: Paperback
I began work on this translation in 1982, simply re-writing the English translation already accomplished by Gudo Nishijima. From 1986, I began to work directly from the original text. It then became increasingly apparent to me that Master Nishijima had very deep intuitive, non-semantic understanding of everything that Master Dogen was endeavoring to transmit. It was also apparent to me that, in his attempts to render this non-semantic understanding into an authentic, more or less literal English translation, Master Nishijima was remarkably wide of the mark. So I did my best, like a miner, to extract the real meaning from Master Nishijima, sitting by his side at temple retreats, and visiting him regularly at his office to ask him in detail about the original text. Then I went home and did my best to produce an as-far-as possible literal translation in tune with this real meaning. This process continued until 1997, when Master Nishijima called a halt to my revision work, apparently fearing that I was corrupting the true meaning of Shobogenzo due to my new-found enthusiasm, from 1994 onward, for the teaching of FM Alexander.

What I woud like to make clear now is that in the years when I was working on the Shobogenzo translation under Master Nishijima, through to 1997, my own understanding of the fundamental principle of Shobogenzo was not clear. Only recently, after 25 years of daily Zazen, has my own understanding of the fundamental principle become truly clear.

Thus, if I were to revise the translation again, I would want to change the wording in many places. In the very first sentence of Book One, for example, I would change the translation of MU-I from "without intention" to "free of intention" or "free of effort.
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A Monumental Achievement!

If you have not read Books 1 through 4 of this translation of the 95 chapter edition of Shobogenzo, do it now! If you have read them, do it again!

Gudo Nishijima and Mike (Chodo) Cross's four volume translation of the 13th century Zen master Eihei Dogen's masterpiece marked the first English language translation of the entire 95 chapter version of Shobogenzo - The True Dharma-Eye Treasury (excepting the nearly useless translation by Kosen Nishiyama and John Stevens).

By opting for a more "literal" rather than "interpretive" rendition, the translators have realized a monumental achievement by furnishing English readers with a reliable text that is certain to be invaluable for generations.

This set is also packed with a wide selection of reference material, or "Aids to the Reader", including a translation of The Heart Sutra, Dogen's Fukanzazengi, and a generous selection of passages from the Lotus Sutra, Glossaries, a variety of tables offering data on everything from The Works of Dogen, to equivalents of Chinese/Japanese/Sanskrit/English.

The extensive footnotes, while occasionally offering some overly "interpretive" (read: sectarian), provide readers with a vast amount of supplemental information with lucid explanations concerning cultural context, alternate readings, sources for material quoted in the body of the text, biographical (historical and traditional) information on personages appearing in the text, and much more.
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A Monumental Achievement!

If you have not read Books 1 through 4 of this translation of the 95 chapter edition of Shobogenzo, do it now! If you have read them, do it again!

Gudo Nishijima and Mike (Chodo) Cross's four volume translation of the 13th century Zen master Eihei Dogen's masterpiece marked the first English language translation of the entire 95 chapter version of Shobogenzo - The True Dharma-Eye Treasury (excepting the nearly useless translation by Kosen Nishiyama and John Stevens).

By opting for a more "literal" rather than "interpretive" rendition, the translators have realized a monumental achievement by furnishing English readers with a reliable text that is certain to be invaluable for generations.

This set is also packed with a wide selection of reference material, or "Aids to the Reader", including a translation of The Heart Sutra, Dogen's Fukanzazengi, and a generous selection of passages from the Lotus Sutra, Glossaries, a variety of tables offering data on everything from The Works of Dogen, to equivalents of Chinese/Japanese/Sanskrit/English.

The extensive footnotes, while occasionally offering some overly "interpretive" (read: sectarian), provide readers with a vast amount of supplemental information with lucid explanations concerning cultural context, alternate readings, sources for material quoted in the body of the text, biographical (historical and traditional) information on personages appearing in the text, and much more.
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