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Initial post: Apr 12, 2013 9:30:39 AM PDT
So, it says it's mastered in 4K. Does this mean you need a 4K compliant BLu-Ray player and/or TV to play this disc at all, or does it simply mean that 4K-compatible players / TVs will simply benefit MORE from this disc than a standard Blu-Ray player. I guess what I'm asking is whether this Blu-Ray mastered in 4K degrades gracefully to "standard" Blu-Ray? One should hope so? That is, is saying "Blu-Ray mastered in 4K" the equivalent of saying "DVD mastered in high definition"?

Posted on Apr 13, 2013 5:25:23 AM PDT
M. Champion says:
It says it will work in exist br players/tvs in the product page, likely it will(otherwise it would be false advertising) you won't get the full benefit unless you have a 4k tv and are probably going to have to have the a 4k compatible br player.

Sony BDPS790 4K Upscaling 3D Wi-Fi Blu-ray Disc Player

Posted on Apr 13, 2013 5:34:47 AM PDT
M. Champion says:
It chopped off the bottom half of my reply for some reason, i think we need a new version of hdmi to support 4k resolution, maybe bandwidth limitations? I know hdmi 1.4 was needed for proper 3d playback, not sure if that will suffice for 4k or not.

The player in reference only mentions upscaling, not sure if it supports native 4k resolution, it is highly likely the ps4 will support native 4k movie playback. The whole 4k market sounds like 5 yrs+ off for mainstream consumption to me.

Posted on Apr 22, 2013 11:43:51 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 22, 2013 11:45:15 AM PDT
Joe says:
This is a bluray. And not an actual 4k video. It's just using a new 4k scan of the film. They pulled this nonsense with Seinfeld's DVD's. Read the back of the box. "Remastered in HD". It was. But DVD's aren't HD. So you don't get the benefit. Same here. This is a downscale of the 4k transfer.

Posted on Jun 8, 2013 4:52:20 PM PDT
This, in my opinion is just another stop-gap measure to compensate for the fast that ALL Blu-Rays are compressed and actually may look worse than the old analog LaserDiscs.
These are NOT 4K as Blu-Ray is incapable of that bandwidth and these are only 1080p at best and NOT 2160P as 4k requires.

Also the 8K televisions are just another point in the curve as 8K televisions are already in the pipeline in Japan. If you want the best resolution, go to an analog Omni-Max (aka Dome IMAX) theatre and view there, or buy one for your backyard.

Mastered for 4K is sorta like (New and Improved) as they are only slightly less compressed Blu-Ray discs.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2013 11:19:33 AM PDT
So that's why Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory still looks like crap on Blu-ray. It was playing on infinite loop from an HDTV in a candy store, and the picture looked like it was made up entirely of colored microscopically-enhanced germs.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2013 4:24:11 PM PDT
For 4K TVs to start seeing mass introduction, yeah, probably 5 years. For *actual adoption,* I'm guessing more like 10-15, as such things go... Unless they start offering "super-combo-packs" that have like 4K + Blu3D + Blu + DVD, and people start upgrading directly from CRT TV to 4K, completely skipping 1080P (though that will probably be cost-prohibitive as 4K will be the "top end" huge $$ items for probably quite some time). Otherwise it'll take a few upgrade cycles, which seem to go in 5-10+ year runs...

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2013 4:32:09 PM PDT
Well, there's a couple things that COULD be going on with that... Either a poor master of the original source material (up-converted rather than remastered from high definition negatives) or it's possible they were using an inferior video connection like an RCA cable which only supports 480p and not high def, in which case the player may have recognized which connection is was broadcasting on, and output a lower resolution image, which the HDTV was then up-converting on-the-fly, leading to poor image quality?

But it could also be due to "compression" issues in the Blu-Ray format, too. That is "lossy" compressed video with a smaller storage footprint rather than uncompressed or loss-less video compression?

Merely guessing a couple possibilities... Though with pretty much any video it seems like the quality of the original video is an issue too. Kind of like the grain or artifacts you see in digital photos under low light conditions, there may be similar problems with poor sensors or issues under low light conditions with some video cameras too, thus leading to imperfect video with a lot of "noise". I've noticed that in quite a few videos I've seen. Often in shadows and such. But not always. Sometimes there's just "noise" in the video.
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