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Mastering the Complex Sale: How to Compete and Win When the Stakes are High! [Hardcover]

Jeff Thull
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March 8, 2010
Praise for Mastering the Complex Sale

"Jeff Thull's process plays a key role in helping companies and their customers cross the chasm with disruptive innovations and succeed with game-changing initiatives."
—Geoffrey A. Moore, author of Crossing the Chasm and Dealing with Darwin

"This is the first book that lays out a solid method for selling cross-company, cross-border, even cross-culturally where you have multiple decision makers with multiple agendas. This is far more than a 'selling process'—it is a survival guide—a truly outstanding approach to bringing all the pieces of the puzzle together."
—Ed Daniels, EVP, Shell Global Solutions Downstream, President, CRI/Criterion, Inc.

"Mastering the Complex Sale brilliantly sets up value from the customer's perspective. A must-read for all those who are managing multinational business teams in a complex and highly competitive environment."
—Samik Mukherjee, Vice President, Onshore Business, Technip

"Customers need to know the value they will receive and how they will receive it. Thull's insights into the complex sale and how to clarify and quantify this value are remarkable—Mastering the Complex Sale will be required reading for years to come!"
—Lee Tschanz, Vice President, North American Sales, Rockwell Automation

"Jeff Thull is winning the war against commoditization. In his world, value trumps price and commoditization isn't a given, it's a choice. This is a proven alternative to the price-driven sale. We've spoken to his clients. This stuff really works, folks."
—Dave Stein, CEO and Founder, ES Research Group, Inc.

"Our business depends on delivering breakthrough thinking to our executive clients. Jeff Thull has significantly redefined sales and marketing strategies that clearly connect to our global audience. Read it, act on it, and take your results to exceptional levels."
—Sven Kroneberg, President, Seminarium Internacional

"Jeff's main thesis—that professional customer guidance is the key to success—rings true in every global market today. Mastering the Complex Sale is the essential read for any organization looking to transform their business for long-term, value-driven growth."
—Jon T. Lindekugel, President, 3M Health Information Systems, Inc.

"Jeff Thull has re-engineered the conventional sales process to create predictable and profitable growth in today's competitive marketplace. It's no longer about selling; it's about guiding quality decisions and creating collaborative value. This is one of those rare books that will make a difference."
—Carol Pudnos, Executive director, Healthcare Industry, Dow Corning Corporation


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Editorial Reviews

From the Inside Flap

In today's turbulent and volatile marketplace, even the most experienced professionals are struggling with the rapid commoditization of their complex, high-value solutions. The complexity of the problems to be solved and the competitive threats we face are increasing at an alarming rate. At the same time, your customers are wrestling with mission-critical decisions and evaluating solutions that all sound the same and come packaged with a high degree of risk and a low probability of success. Your success demands an exceptional strategy and precise execution that must clearly set you apart from your competition.

Continuing to evolve the breakthrough thinking of his bestselling classic Mastering the Complex Sale in this new edition, Jeff Thull once again pushes the envelope to give professionals—from individuals struggling with their first call, to senior executives trying to figure out why their value strategy is falling short—a comprehensive guide to navigate and win high-stakes sales. You will find yourself rethinking your beliefs about selling, applying this straightforward strategy, and achieving the success you are looking for.

Jeff will lead you through Diagnostic Business Development, a complete and effective system derived from years of experience with top sales professionals and executive teams worldwide. It is a proven diagnostic, value-based approach that positions you with respect and exceptional credibility as a valued business advisor and contributor to your customers' success. In fact, it's not about selling—it's about guiding quality business decisions that will connect and quantify your unique value and remove your customers' internal barriers that prevent them from moving forward.

This book will show you how to:

  • Gain access and connect to the highest levels of powerand influence

  • Separate real business from resource drains

  • Navigate complex decision networks

  • Prevent self-commoditization

  • Connect your value to your customers' performance metrics

  • Quantify value with an amount your customers believe

  • Co-create compelling solutions customers will invest in

Rich with detailed examples and real-world case studies and thorough in its challenge to conventional sales wisdom, this edition of Mastering the Complex Sale gives you the precise guide you've been looking for to win and win big in complex sales.

From the Back Cover

"Jeff Thull’s Prime process plays a key role in helping companies and their customers cross the chasm. It has built into its core the high-integrity communications and depth of commitment necessary to ensure customers succeed with game-changing initiatives."
–Geoffrey A. Moore, author of Crossing the Chasm and Living on the Fault Line

"There’s a powerful message in this book for senior executives: If your margins are eroding and your organization is trapped in the conventional sales paradigm, Mastering the Complex Sale has the road map and Jeff Thull is an excellent guide. He has captured the essence of selling in today’s turbulent times. A must-read for your entire organization."
–Mario Concha, President, Georgia-Pacific Resins, Inc.

"The Prime Process cuts across all trading entities, multiple cultures, geographic borders, and functional disciplines. Mastering the Complex Sale is a clear approach to successfully bringing together the multiple perspectives of sophisticated sales processes. It is required reading for any complex business, whether local or global."
–Gerhard D. Meese, Executive Vice President, Dover Technologies International, Inc.

"Mastering the Complex Sale is a masterpiece! It’s street smart and research backed and full of real-life practical advice on how to move all the chess pieces in the complex sales game. You’ll walk away with not only the ‘what’ and the ‘how’ of the complex sale, but also discover how to build the mental stamina it takes to compete at the top."
–Donato Tramuto, President and CEO, Protocare Sciences

"Mastering the Complex Sale lays out the most significant business and sales strategy to come along in years. It is clearly leading-edge thinking. As a technology innovator, we see it as a must. Read it and win!"
–Tim Klein, CEO, ATTO Technology, Inc.

"Jeff Thull’s leading-edge thinking has contributed to a change in our fundamental approach to sales and marketing and has had a significant impact on our bottom line. Mastering the Complex Sale and the Prime Process is a prescription for global success!"
–Dr. Richard M. Brooks, Vice President–Worldwide Marketing,
Waters Corporation

"Thull’s clear and distinctive advice provides the reader with a real-world road map for maximizing results in high-stakes sales. Diagnostic Business Development takes today’s consultative salesperson’s game to the next level. This book is mandatory for those looking to gain a true competitive advantage and distinguish themselves from the competition."
–Donny Holender, Vice President–Sales, Universal Computer Systems, Inc. --This text refers to the Unbound edition.


Product Details

  • Hardcover: 304 pages
  • Publisher: Wiley; 2 edition (March 8, 2010)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0470533110
  • ISBN-13: 978-0470533116
  • Product Dimensions: 6.3 x 1 x 9 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.2 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (37 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #94,075 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

More About the Author

Jeff Thull is a leading-edge strategist and valued advisor for executive teams of major companies worldwide. As President and CEO of Prime Resource Group, he has designed and implemented business transformation and professional development programs for companies like Shell, 3M, Microsoft, Siemens, Boston Scientific, IBM, Raymond James, HP and Georgia-Pacific, as well as many fast track, start-up companies. He has gained the reputation for being a thought leader in the arena of sales and marketing strategies and relationship management for companies involved in complex sales.

Thull is a compelling, entertaining and thought-provoking keynote speaker with a track record of over 2,500 speeches and seminars delivered to corporations and professional associations worldwide. Jeff's work is published in hundreds of business and trade publications.

Jeff has just released his newest book, the second edition and highly revised Mastering the Complex Sale: How to Compete and Win When the Stakes are High. This version of his best-selling book is available March 2010. He is also the author of The Prime Solution: Close the Value Gap, Increase Margins, and Win the Complex Sale, and Exceptional Selling: How the Best Connect and Win in High Stakes Sales.

Customer Reviews

This book shows how a selling organization can approach the problem of making a complex sale. Citizen John  |  10 reviewers made a similar statement
He helps you understand what it was like in the past and how it needs to be going forward. Michael Nick  |  5 reviewers made a similar statement
Fantasic book, easy read, IMMENSELY helpful. Eric Oliver  |  6 reviewers made a similar statement
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43 of 45 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars How to Achieve Superior Results in Sales and Profits March 11, 2004
Format:Hardcover
Note: The review below is of the first edition that Jeff Thull has since revised and updated in this second edition. In fact, the phrase "revised and updated" really should be "extensively revised and updated" because there is so much new material in this book (check out Chapters 8 and 9 in Part III) and the scope and depth of his brilliant Diagnostic Business Development (DBD) process is increased as he explains how it enables those who use it to get beyond selling to managing decisions in collaboration with the buyer; get beyond problem solving to facilitating beneficial change; get beyond meeting customers' immediate needs to managing their near-, mid-, and long-term expectations; get beyond single transactions to managing multi-dimensional relationships; and finally, to get beyond rote talking points and "value messages" to rich, rigorous, and interactive conversations.

The second edition reflects the positive and significant influence of two books Thull published after the first edition, The Prime Solution and Exceptional Selling. He refines several of their core concepts in the second edition that also reflects substantial feedback that enlightens and strengthens the DBD process. In these and other ways, the second edition is more, much more than a sequel. As I read Thull's Introduction, I was reminded of Ken Robinson's explanation of the reasons for the second edition of Out of Our Minds: "...the first reason is that so much has happened since since [2000], both in [begin italics] the [end italics] world and in [begin italics] my [end italics] world...The second reason for this new edition is that I now have more to say about many of the core ideas in the book and what we should do to put them into practice...The third reason is, not only has the world moved on in the last ten years, I have too. Literally." The same is true of Jeff Thull as well as of those such as I who found so much of value in the first edition and so much more in the second.

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Complex sales are those which involve a lengthy process of cultivation and solicitation, a "circle of influence" within which the purchase or pass decision is made, a product or service whose functions/features/benefits/ etc. require technical verification, and a substantial purchase price. In this volume, Thull focuses on the process by which to "compete and win when the stakes are high." To understand how to master the complex sale, one must first understand how and why the role of the salesperson changed throughout the last half of the 20th century. Thull respectfully but clinically explains the inadequacies today of sales strategies, processes, and skills which were effective from the early-1950s until about the early-mid 90s. How well I recall the advice I received from various sales managers when I earned my way through college by selling automobiles and smaller trucks in the Chicago area during summer vacations. Never take "no" for an answer, for example. "Selling begins when the prospect says `no.'" Another chestnut was flattery: "You look great behind the wheel! This car was built for you!" Times change, of course. One paradigm inevitably gives way to another. I agree with Thull that, today, "It's not about selling -- it's about managing [a prospect's] quality decisions." Actually, I view that approach as the purest form of selling: to serve as advisor, concierge, consigliere, consultant, etc. when collaborating with a pre-qualified prospect to make the most appropriate purchase decision.

Thull carefully organizes his material within ten chapters which range from the first, "The World in Which We Sell" (almost worth the price of the book all by itself) to the last, "A Complex Sales Future," in which Thull agrees with Jack Welch that we must either control our destiny or someone else will. Given what I now do to earn a living, Chapter 6 ("Designing the Complex Solution") was of special interest to me. In it, Thull suggests that "Prime professionals approach [Thull's] solution design phase of the complex sale as an exploratory process. The aim is to equip the customer to make the best, most effective choice among the solutions competing in the marketplace." By taking precisely the same approach, the IBM sales force was able to recapture most of the customers it had lost while improving its chances when cultivating and then soliciting prospective new customers.

As Thull explains, the process built during the Diagnosis, a precise agreement on what a customer is experiencing in the absence of the needed solution and it's financial impact, with a collaborative discussion that determines precisely what a customer's desired outcomes are. "The easiest way to begin to define the parameters is to ask customers how they expect their situation to look after the problem is solved." For me, Thull then makes an especially important point when alerting his reader to the "trap" of unpaid consulting which begins "when we cross the line between defining parameters of a solution and creation of the design of the solution itself." Please consult the book for Thull's complete explanation of each phase of The Prime Process.

Given the importance of winning in sales, especially "when the stakes are high," it would obviously be a mistake to assume that Thull (or anyone else) has all the right answers or is even addressing all of the right questions. My strong recommendation is that each reader rigorously evaluate available sources of relevant information and counsel (including this book), using the same process Thull proposes: Discover what those sources are, Diagnose their relative advantages and disadvantages, Design (or Re-Design) a sales program which is most appropriate to one's specific needs and objectives, and then finally, Deliver satisfactory results through effective implementation of that program.

It would also be a mistake to assume that the relevance of the strategies and tactics which Thull endorses is limited, literally, to the buying or selling of a product or service. Many complex "sales" can also involve effective persuasion to obtain funds from financial sources, for example, or to convince the best-qualified CEO candidate to accept the position offered. If used effectively in situations such as these, the same strategies and tactics can also be invaluable.

In today's increasingly more competitive marketplace, Thull observes, "There is no Magic! -- Spectacular success is always preceded by unspectacular preparation" as well as by a better system, sharper skills, and "above all" discipline. The Prime Process is not for every organization, nor does Thull make such a claim. Carefully consider what it involves and, especially, what it requires.

I presume to add a final observation of my own, that there is both "good news" and "bad news." First the bad news: Very few organizations have as yet mastered the complex sale process. Now the good news: Very few organizations have as yet mastered the complex sale process.
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I thought I knew how to sell. I really did. I usually beat quota, even during the recent bust. I've taken home 6 figure commissions 12 of the last 15 years.

But sales is the kind of career that always surprises you. I've started to see more "No Decision" deals: you qualify the customer correctly, you create the perfect proposal with undeniable ROI. They go away excited. Then no decision the next day, the next week, the next month, the next year. They don't go with your competition, they just don't do anything. What the heck is going on?

Or the customers who demand (and usually get) free consulting. Most vendors were desparate during the recession, and happily gave away free consulting to stay in the game. Now things are busy. How do you deal with the demand?

Or RFP's. Yea, we all know that if we didn't help write them, then we're probably too late to win them. Many of us refused to participate in a lot of them. But most deals are coming in with RFP's now. Customers are researching technology on the internet, and writing detailed RFP's themselves. Some are good, some are crap, many have real dollars behind them that I'm not willing to give up on.

Or commidization. Technology that we were selling as a premium, highly-differentiated solution a couple of years ago is available from three other suppliers who compete on nothing but price.

If any of this sounds familiar, you need this book. Mr. Thull has fugured out what's happening, and presents a step-by-step solution. You'll be shocked when he describes exactly what sales techniques you were using, which you thought was so smart, and shows how flawed it really is.

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I found this gem in a West Coast airport. I bought it partly because I have spent 20 years "selling" governments on the idea of doing more with unclassified sources and less with expensive secrets that capture only 4% of the relevant information, and partly because when I role play the well-intentioned but largely hand-cuffed Director of National Intelligence (DNI), I see a real inability to make real change when allowing "business as usual" practices to continue.

This book is tremendous. It is coherent, well-presented, with great illustrations, and a superb "reality check" section that the DNI or any other Cabinet leader or non-governmental or corporate or state executive would do well to adopt.

The bottom line: any "sale," whether from an external or internal source, is ultimately about making change; about changing what has been done and how it has been done since time immemorial.

Second bottom line: virtually every customer lacks the high-quality internal decision-process for diagnostics, surveying of what the options are, or evaluating tradeoffs, and once chosen, the customer needs help in implementing any complex solution because this will require internal change that the entire customer's enterprise will resist.

The book opens with a brief summary of the three Eras of sales:

Era 1: follow a sales script, be persuasive, sell and move on

Era 2: listen, develop a relationship, be a problem solver, win-win

Era 3: serve as source of business advantage, be a strategist, nurture the missing decision process and cast of characters within the customer's enterprise, and be ready to implement, measure, and report results

I like the author's emphasis on the fact that win-win is not about selling a product, but rather about helping the customer create a process that leads to greater performance and hence greater profit or impact. In this context, I see real value for any vendor that is willing to step back from their "single point technology solution" and actually offer up a range of best in class offerings that can be integrated seamlessly and do not require "one contractor per laptop" to be effective.

The author stresses that in complex environments, implementing innovation that produces new value is the winning combination.

He points out that complex sales involve:

1) Large financial investments

2) Long sales cycles

3) Multiple decisions at multiple levels in the client organization

As I noted the last point I recollected my participation in the CIA's Mid-Career Course (Class 101, 1986) and the attempts then to create a "one agency culture." These attempts failed, and the current DNI is also failing, in part because we hire, train, and promote according to over 100 different systems--we do not train together, we do not work together, and who we promote has little to do with performance in part because there are no metrics for *outcomes*.

I like the author's illustration and discussion of how to build a bridge to change with diagnostics, which includes the following:

Customer's Business Objectives
Critical Success Factors
Job Responsibilities
Worry List
Indicators
Causes
Consequences
Expectations
Solutions

Wow. Imagine if the US Government saw itself working in this manner!

The author stresses that in complex decisions commoditization is not helpful because one size does not fit all, but at the same time, the customers simply do not have the foundation, process, or insights needed to get it right. I certainly found this to be true in government, where Contracting Officer's Technical Representatives (COTR), with a handful of exceptions, have not been able to do functional requirements surveys nor write Statements of Work (SOW) since the 1980's.

The author recommends a focus on customers in pain, because pain drives the willingness to change, and that, combined with the diagnosis, drives the sale and the willingness to implement change. As I write this I think to myself that the worst thing we could have done for intelligence reform was to increase the budget from $30 billion a year to $60 billion a year--not only is the secret world not feeling any pain, they are not being asked to account for *outcomes* that are all too meaningless--for example, no one is being held accountable for the fact that we still do not have a consolidated terrorism watch list, and the one we do have has over 750,000 names, at least half of which are false positives.

The author warns against providing unpaid consulting (stop at diagnostics--the client has to pay for devising solutions); for creeping elegance (the perennial lure of adding bells and whistles that are both unaffordable, and that will not be used to full effect--one estimate says that employees use less than 20% of existing desktop software capabilities); and of growing resistance inside the customer's enterprise if the needed changes are not explained step by step from day one.

From page 176 forward the author asks and discusses 12 questions. Here
1. What is our company all about?
2. Who are the customers we serve?
3. How do we develop new business?
4. What is our diagnostic engagement protocol?
5. What is our personal business plan?
6. What are our solutions?
7. Can we develop new business?
8. Can you diagnose the customer's situation?
9. Can you determine the cost of the problem?
10: Are you perceived as a creative problem solver by your customers?
11: Can you propose an effective solution?
12. Can you effectively present a proposal?

This is a great book, helpful to those who both sell and buy in a complex environment. The Earth is the most complex environment we have, and this book helped me think about how to help the United Nations, the Foundations, and the non-violent side of the Pentagon (the folks that now understand we must Wage Peace) come together.

A few other books that complement this one:
The Innovator's Solution: Creating and Sustaining Successful Growth
Get Back in the Box: How Being Great at What You Do Is Great for Business
Corporate Creativity: How Innovation & Improvement Actually Happen
The Change Handbook: The Definitive Resource on Today's Best Methods for Engaging Whole Systems
Investing in Innovation: Creating a Research and Innovation Policy That Works
Wellsprings of Knowledge: Building and Sustaining the Sources of Innovation
Transformational Change
Path of Least Resistance: Learning to Become the Creative Force in Your Own Life
Innovation Happens Elsewhere: Open Source as Business Strategy
Orbiting the Giant Hairball: A Corporate Fool's Guide to Surviving with Grace
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5.0 out of 5 stars Good info inside
There's some great info in here. I used this for a Key Account Management class in college. Many good quotes to be had and gives a lot of great info about managing large... Read more
Published 1 month ago by Ryan B
5.0 out of 5 stars A different way of looking at sales
The title of this book seems quite lofty, I would argue that they aren't just talking about "complex" sales but actually "modern" or "realistic" sales. Read more
Published 4 months ago by Daniel Sherer
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Jeff Thull has mastered the art of stretching a few concepts into a book-length publication. Everything worthwhile could have been said in 10-to-15 pages.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Great Analysis!
Mr. Thull does a wonderful job pulling together, and making tangible, statistics and examples that lend themselves to some obvious themes. This is a must-read for today's salesman.
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This was a gift, that the giftee said that it was just what he needed. I haven't anything more to say
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The book showed up very quickly--much sooner than I expected and it was as described.
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