Customer Reviews

Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 2.0

5 star:		(8)
4 star:		(6)
3 star:		(6)
2 star:		(2)
1 star:		(6)

 

 

For those people complaining about range - I have tested my unit with fresh batteries and clear line of sight to about 30 feet. When the batteries go low, this range falls away, but the biggest difference is if there is an obstacle between the receiver and the peripherals, it will reduce the range dramatically - this is pretty common with these types of devices if you read up on other similar wireless units.

Pros:
1) RF rather than IR, so the range is omni-directional rather than just line of sight. This is great if you want to "hide" the transceiver on a shelf under your desk or something like that. (Older infrared units require line of sight).

2) Great ergonomics on the mouse, and good tracking precision

3) Great price/performance - you won't find a better deal on an RF-based wireless keyboard/mouse combo. These units sell for something like $60 at the Microsoft store (where employees shop!)

4) Easy hookup and operation with Windows XP (have not tried it on others)

5) PS/2 AND USB connector so you can use either the two PS/2 connectors or a single USB connector for hooking up the transceiver.

The Cons:
1) Everyone is absolutely right about the F key assignments - it is the dumbest design flaw you can imagine.

2) The delete key - Grrr! Why does Microsoft seem bent on "redesigning" the traditional keyboard layout? I'll bet they must have a patent on the design... As others have written, the delete key is over-sized and you are likely to accidently use it if you are not careful

3) Difficult to tell when the unit is running low on batteries. I use rechargeable NiMH batteries, and since their fully-charged voltage is slightly lower than regular alkaline batteries, the unit starts acting funky when they are not fully discharged. Checking the software battery indicator will tell me that they are 80% charged, but swapping them out will cure the problems. I believe the red mouse light (the optical tracking light) flashes when the batteries are low, but I can't confirm this in the documentation.

Summary
This is a great wireless combo for the "normal" home user that still looks at the keyboard while they type and does not make extensive use of the "F" keys. I bought one for my wife and my Mom, and both of them love the way it looks and the way it cleared up the clutter on their desks. When I have to do "real" work at either of their computers, I'll confess that this keyboard drives me crazy with its idiosyncracies. The mouse is very good, however, and in my opinion might even be worth the price of the combo.

If you are a "regular" home user that uses your PC for web browsing and emails, then this is a great combo that you will be happy with at a great price. If you are more of a "power user" then I'd recommend you look elsewhere - the Logitech MX Duo has received really good reviews, but is more expensive. For me, I'm waiting for the prices to drop on Bluetooth units, and will probably jump on the Logitech MX Duo Bluetooth when the price point drops down into teh $50 range....

This is a pretty solid combination package. The keyboard has "Favorites" buttons, which I have programmed to my five most used applications (e.g. email, browser). There is a "media center" control at the top, which allows me to quickly mute the volume, should I need to speak to someone. There are also other buttons for messenger, web pages, My Documents, the calculator, and logging off, all of which are very convenient. There is also a wrist rest built in, ensuring that your palms are high enough when typing.

The mouse has two buttons as well as a vertical and side-to-side scrolling wheel, which allow me to quickly scroll through doucments without having to move my hand. There are also two really convenient buttons under my thumb, which allow me to navigate back and forward through web pages.

I have the wireless receiver about a foot from the mouse and the keyboard, and do not have signal trouble. There are other people who use the keyboards and mice in the same office, and we don't have any cross-signaling issues.

I really wanted to like this keyboard and mouse but I've just had so many problems with them that I'm taking them back.

First the good things:
- Lots of shortcut buttons to things like e-mail, browser, etc.
- Fairly solid design
- I like the way the keyboard was slightly curved but not too much like the Microsoft "Natural" keyboard

Now the bad...

It wasn't long after I bought the keyboard and mouse that the left mouse button stopped working intermittently. I read other reviews that said the same thing so I tried taking one of the batteries out but that didn't solve the problem. It's very frustrating to be trying to work and to have to click maybe ten times on a link or button in order for anything to happen. I have bought a replacement wired mouse and have that connected as well as this combo. After I've tried left-clicking ten times using the wireless mouse with no response, I use the second mouse as my "left-click" device. As soon as my replacement wired keyboard arrives, I'm taking this piece of junk back.

As well as the left mouse button not working more often than not, the mouse isn't very ergonomic. With my hand on the mouse, I use my thumb and little finger to pick up and move the mouse on the mouse pad. The mouse shape is such that this is not easy to do. It's difficult to describe but the mouse has a very fat bottom (at "desk-level") and then it gets skinny at an elevation of about 0.5" above desk-level. So trying to pick it up from the bottom with my thumb and little finger sometimes causes my thumb and little finger to slip "up" the mouse. Sounds a bit rude but I hope you get what I mean.

The last thing is that the keys can't keep up with my typing. I don't think I'm that fast a typer but maybe this is a general problem with wireless keyboards (hence my getting a wired keyboard replacement). When I type words that end in "rt", it misses the "t" almost every time. I work for a company that does reporting so I type the word "report" a lot and it's extremely annoying to have to go back and fill in the "t"s all the time.
Also, the shift key seems to stay down for longer than it should. I occasionally get two capitalised letters at the beginning of a word instead of one. Maybe it's the design of the keyboard that's causing my finger to linger longer than usual on the Shift key rather than a problem with the signal but whatever it is, it doesn't happen on other keyboards.
And the last thing is that the space bar doesn't register about 20% of the time. There have been other dropped letters too but these are the ones I noticed most.

So, there you have it. This review hasn't been as bad for the second half because my new keyboard arrived half way through me typing it (whoopee!) so everything's back to normal. It's another MS keyboard, by the way - a "Digital Media Pro" for $22.77 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002CPBUK/qid=1125618901/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7709379-7980766?v=glance&s=pc&n=507846) and it's great so far! Not a single dropped character.

I purchased this combo a little over a year ago, and have excellent performance since then. I have only changed the batteries in the mouse once and not at all in the keyboard. They really mean it when they say increased battery life. As far as the software goes, the version 5.0 that came with mine is crap. I recommend downloading the new version that is 5.2. The bad thing about the software is it is two different programs, one for the keyboard and one for the mouse.

Overall 5 stars.

I like the idea of wireless keyboard and mouse, but I would not buy this again. I think it is a very poor design. Here's why.

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The first three reasons listed here are the most important to me, and collectively are the reason that this keyboard and mouse will soon show up on eBay.

The function keys have two functions, controlled by an "F-lock key". For example, F4 is also 'new document'; F7 is also 'Reply', etc. There is no way to tell if this is locked or unlocked, other than trying the keys. It gets old really quickly to reply to an email instead of spell check. For some bizarre reason the "Insert" key is controlled by this F-lock key, and so if you're used to used ctrl-insert and shift-insert for copy and paste, this 'feature' quickly gets VERY annoying.

For some other bizarre reason, the home, end, page up, page down keys are not standard. I have no idea why MS thinks we need a double sized delete key, but that forces the other keys into an odd configuration and forces the insert key to the function key row.

There are no num lock or shift lock lights. When these are toggled, there is a brief indicator on screen, but that's all, so you can't tell whether the lock is on or off at any particular time

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Remaining reasons are less important and reflect some personal preference

Installing the software was easy, but I could not get the PS2 connections to work. This is somewhat annoying as I have only a few USB ports and want to save them for other items.

The keys are smaller than my old Gateway keyboard, and the feel is softer. This is a personal preference, but I don't like it.

The keys are shiny black, and the lettering on the keys is small (about 1/4 the size of the keys. My old Gateway had no shiny keys (less reflection) and larger lettering (ok, so I'm getting old!)

The whole keyboard seems to be made of cheap plastic, more like a toy, than a professional device.

The mouse has more drag than I am used to, in either optical or balled versions, but again, that is personal preference.

I bought this product about 4 months back when it was available for $25 after rebate. It is working fine for me. As most other reviewers said, the Function key is very weird. I dont know why they designed it this way. Also the Del key. I have used the Del key sometimes thinking I am hitting "Enter". One more drawback, which may not be true is, this will not work with other versions of Windows except for XP. The media keys are good and useful. Battery life has been good for the past 4 months and I use my computer about 4 hours a day.
Overall good value for the money.

Ok so this combo isn't the best wireless product out there. But it does what it is supposed to. The package gives the user a lot of flexibility and usefulness. With no cords to get in the way, I can sit a couple of feet away and type or use the mouse. The range is definitely reduced when something is in the way. I tried putting the receiver under my desk or bed, but beyond 3 feet, it cut off. Now it's on top of my desk and it works great. Plus, with the receiver at eye level, I can see the caps/num/F lock indicator lights. They should be on the keyboard, but this isn't a significant drawback. All the annoying design elements that people talk about on the keyboard are indeed annoying at first, but I'm sure I'll get used to them. The shortcut keys for internet, messenger, calculator, etc. are convenient enough. After spending some time with the software, I was able to customize the buttons to open the programs I use most. However, I have not figured out how to make the media buttons work with Winamp instead of Windows Media Player. The mouse is great. Typical optical mouse. It feels good, and it has convenient buttons and the horizontal-tilt scroll wheel, which I might not use much, but which might come in handy with a smaller screen area. This mouse and keyboard get the job done, and after spending some time with them, the lazy typists among us will likely grow to appreciate Microsoft's design experiment. And with the $20 rebate, it's a great deal on a decent combo.

Works great for me! Flawless mouse and keyboard performance with no issues. Fairly long battery life. Nice appearance. Durable so far. As some have noted, function keys may require function lock activation, but other than this one minor inconvenience, I've found it perfect for my usage.

The mouse is AWSOME. The scroll button is really smoth and the optical sensour is soooo much better than a ball. I really like the layout of the keyboard too. The quick launch buttons are all very usefull. The hardware was very easy to configure. Just make sure you read the instalation booklet before you start attaching it to your machine. My only Gripe is I wish the range was a little better. I suppose in time there will be improvments in that department. For now its a great keyboard and I can easily sit with it on my lap a few feet away from my computer hutch. It is also very stylish looking and comfortable to work with.

I had such high hopes for this keyboard/mouse combo for my home entertainment PC. Dreams of fragging on a 56" HDTV on a comfy couch... Dashed... The keyboard and mouse have a normal range of about 3-4 ft. My wired keyboard has a longer cord than that. Strangely enough, if you hold the face or the bottom of the keyboard toward the receiver, the range can increase to about 10 ft, but no one can type like that! Therefore, the optimal placement for distance is to have the receiver 10 ft above the keyboard! Unfortunately, no orientation of the mouse will increase its distance.

On other fronts, they have a lame "F Lock" key. Otherwise, all the function keys have been remapped by Microsoft. Remember to hit F5 to refresh? Well, now F5 "opens" a document. To have standard function usage, you have to hit the F Lock key and there's no way to configure it to stay in the normal configuration so upon reboot or startup, you're back to the Microsoft way.

If you can look past those two critical faults, this keyboard/mouse setup is excellent! The mouse is smooth and shaped well. It has that awesome smooth scrolling wheel (no clicking). The keyboard does have a lot of extra buttons that you can remap. The touch of the keyboard is nice. I like the keys except I had to adapt to the superhuge Delete key. Once I did adapt, I kinda like it extra large.