Moby Grape Live

Moby Grape (Artist) | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Audio CD (April 20, 2010)
• Original Release Date: 2010
• Number of Discs: 1
• Label: Sundazed Music
• ASIN: B0039208V2
• In-Print Editions: MP3 Download
• Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (13 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #87,602 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Editorial Reviews

Mojo, April 2010

How nice it is to finally have live, prime Grape with decent (though not brilliant) fidelity after suffering through nasty bootlegs that have circulated. It's not up to the standard of their best country-folk-psychedelic-folk-rock-blues studio recordings, whose ultra-tight guitars and harmonies make this seem a tad ragged. But there are fresh and energetic versions of most of the songs on their first and best album, highlights from their subsequent LPs and a few surprises. The live versions of the early 1967 outtakes Rounder and Looper are the best of those, and the cover of B.B. King's Sweet Little Angel the most unexpected. Less thrilling is the 17-minute Skip Pence-penned psych dark jam Dark Magic, but the inclusion of their complete Monterey Pop set more than compensates, even if Spence is missing from the 1969 cuts. -Richie Unterberger

Something tells me, if I had been at San Francisco's Avalon Ballroom in June of `67 to witness Moby Grape at the height of their powers, scorching through their set of two-minute pop blasts, blaring triple-guitar action and five-part harmonies soaring, I might not have survived the night. None was the match of the mighty Grape in those days; the band was "flying musically" and easily the toughest act around. Moby Grape Live is the first official release to afford a glimpse into the raucous and entrancing stage performances of one of the most exciting, original, and underappreciated bands of the '60s.

Separated into four sides, this double LP takes us to performances from the same weeks their infamously overhyped masterpiece Moby Grape was released, to their few high-octane minutes at the legendary Monterey International Pop Festival, jumping forward to a 1969 performance in Amsterdam featuring cuts from Wow and `69, and ending back at the start: a full side of "Dark Magic," recorded New Years Eve, 1966. This one's worth the purchase for Side 1 alone. The rabid energy of the band, issuing rapid-fire gems like "Rounder" and "Looper," hits a high point in "Changes" into "Indifference" featuring Jerry Miller's careening lead guitar. Skip Spence turns in a beautifully honest vocal to cap the blistering set with "Someday." The highlight for me, however, are the post-Skip tracks from 1969 on Side 3. "Murder in my Heart for the Judge" shows the band at their loosest, the slack and soul of the rootsier Grape a refreshing contrast. "I am Not Willing," one of their best songs, gets a grooving drawn out treatment and it's interesting to hear a matured group attack earlier hits "Fall on You" and "Omaha." The closing 17-minute raga, "Dark Magic," is more than a piece of rock music history, an actually listenable and fascinating performance, it features inspiring guitar leads, primitive electronic squeals, Skip's far out vocal, and the driving force of sound that made Moby Grape one of the hottest band of the era.

Sundazed has curated an important document here. Hardcore Grape addicts should note much of this material has been featured on bootlegs over the years (notably the tracks from Monterey Pop and "Dark Magic") but none of this has ever been officially released, and never with such pristine sound quality. David Fricke's notes are the icing on the cake. After the essential debut record, this is the Moby Grape record I would recommend next. -Brendan

This stellar '60s San Francisco band's heartbreaking demise is so well-documented, the luckless tale often seems more celebrated than their mindbending music. Maybe that's because the group, during the hallucinatory apex of the Haight-Ashbury, wasn't actually a part of the community. Their individual talents were formed in other places, so it almost seemed like a whole band of designated hitters, maybe even carpetbaggers to boot, was at the center. But so what? Everybody has to be from somewhere, right? Moby Grape also committed the grevious error of releasing a perfect album in the Summer of Love, and that wasn't allowed either. Too commercial. The Grape's future soured and got squished almost immediately, but not before sunshine-saturated songs like "8:05," "Someday," "Omaha," "Changes" and "Indifference" showed the locals how to record timeless tracks. To this day, very few rock releases match that 1967 debut. Now, finally, a strong legitimate live collection surfaces, and it is shattering. Collected from Avalon Ballroom shows, their entire 4-song set at the Monterey International Pop Festival and a Netherlands radio broadcast, Live is exactly what it says: a turbulent but always beautiful journey through a seminal group's brief life. It is mostly joyous in its rocking glimpse at the birth and death of a band. The last song, the legendary but never officially released "Dark Magic," proves once and for all Moby Grape could ride the crest of acid-infused creativity with the best of them. At over 17 minutes, Skip Spence, Jerry Miller, Peter Lewis, Don Stevenson and Bob Mosley fly to the stars and back. That it was on December 31,1966--when this part of the Earth must have felt brand new and all possibilities endless--only adds to the vibrant poignancy of the sound. The Human Be-In was still two weeks away and all the good and not-so-good qualities of the exploding counterculture were soon to spread across the country. On this night and this song, though, there was probably no higher place to see the view of what was to come. And, most likely, Moby Grape knew it. Bless their pointed little hearts.

Product Description

Scuttled by internal scuffles and bad management, Moby Grape only lasted a few years. They were one of the most revered bands in the Bay Area, though, and this is some find for fans: 19 unissued live cuts from their 1966-69 heyday. Witness their triple-guitar attack, soaring harmonies and masterful mix of country, folk, blues and garage rock as you hear 'em at the Avalon, Monterey Pop Festival and on Dutch radio, doing Rounder; Ain't No Use; Looper; Bitter Wind; Changes; Someday; Indifference; Omaha; Mr. Blues , and more on CD or two 180-gram vinyl LPs!

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4.0 out of 5 stars A GOOD OVERVIEW OF MOBY GRAPE ON STAGE, April 20, 2010

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Stuart Jefferson (San Diego,Ca) - See all my reviews
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73 minutes in length approximately. The mostly mono sound is good,considering the various recording sources,and the age of the tapes,but don't expect crisp,clean sound. "Dark Magic" is not up to the fidelity standards of the other (sometimes muddy) tracks,sounding a bit distant,but it's certainly worthy of inclusion. This release is for those who value the music over sound quality. The cardboard foldout booklet is up to the usual standards of Sundazed Records,with photos and information on the band and recordings. Sundazed has gone the extra distance with heavily embossed lettering on the cover-a nice touch. The disc is snapped in,inside the cardboard holder.

By now most listeners of 60's rock music are familiar with the band's first (and best) album,or have at least heard of MOBY GRAPE. Their first album is legendary,and their other original albums all contain some fine music. While the group came out of the psychedelic era (forming in 1966),their blend of rootsy,basic rock/blues/country/and folk music stood out from other bands of the time. And the promise found in their studio albums can be heard on this live release. But it took until now for most listeners to hear,at length,what the band was capable of on stage.

This release has several good examples of the take-no-prisoners,triple-guitar sound of Alexander "Skip" Spence,Peter Lewis,and Jerry Miller,and the group's (including Don Stevenson and Bob Mosley) soulful singing style,both individually and collectively. Like their studio albums,this set focuses on the band's concise songwriting and powerful guitar sound. It's interesting that the group's vocal approach is mirrored in their guitar sound. The vocals were built on,and woven in and around each other,as were the guitars,which produced their trademark sharp yet dense sound. Only occasionally would a band member step forward for a solo,vocally or instrumentally. This approach produced the band's trademark,seemingly barely containable,sound. For a good example of the band's visceral,early sound,the tracks from The Monterey Pop Festival (recorded close to the same time as the first album release),heard by only a small crowd that day,shows how tight the band was from it's early beginnings. The combination of soulful group/individual vocals,and their tight,and at times,fiery guitar playing was pretty spectacular. Tracks like "Indifference","Omaha",and "Mr. Blue",from their first album generate a lot of excitement,and are good examples of the band's early live style. All the band members could write,sing,and really play-and this combination set the group apart from others of the era. A bonus are the live recordings of "Looper" and "Rounder"- the different live version of "Rounder",on the album "Truly Fine Citizen" is from 1968,a year later. The B.B. King tune,"Sweet Black Angel",is the group's nod to the blues (and the album's only song not written by the band),and is a good mix of the MOBY GRAPE sound and the blues.

One thing many listeners not lucky enough (like me) to have heard the group live,don't know,is that on many (not all) occasions the band would really stretch out on a song with some electrifying,sometimes fierce playing. Skip Spence (who was the drummer on the JEFFERSON AIRPLANE album "Takes Off") was usually the spark that ignited these jams,and his "Dark Magic" (an early crowd favorite) is representative of the band's psychedelic instrumental prowess,with the lyrics representative of the (1966) era. The ebb and flow of the music is also straight out of the late 60's,and it's easy to see why this was a favorite of ballroom crowds for their dancing/tripping delight. Oftentimes this tune was extended even longer than the rendition heard here,and the crowd went wild over the group's combination of instrumental firepower and flowing,laid back groove. A true psychedelic artifact from the era.

After Spence's departure from the band (due to drug/mental illness problems) the remaining members carried on,and while the band would never be the same again,the tracks from Danish radio ("Murder In My Heart for the Judge","Omaha","Fall On You" as examples) prove that the group could still produce good music with that MOBY GRAPE sound and feel. Having been lucky enough to have heard both the original band and as a four-piece,this album is a good example of what they did best-playing a synthesis of styles,all with the band's tight vocals and stunning playing.

It's a shame the band was dogged by bad management (which still haunts them today) from the beginning,a stupid decision by Columbia Records to release five tracks from the first album as singles-simultaneously,an ill-fated release party/gig,and certain band members being caught with underage girls-all in a short span of time. Combined with Spence's problems (which caused him to leave the band),the group would never be the same. The magic of that first album would never be repeated,except in a few instances on their other albums. But through it all the band was,and still is,one of the best groups to come out of the 60's era. And this live album goes a long way in proving that point. Hopefully the legal problems concerning the re-release of their albums (particularly the first) will be resolved. But in the meantime we have this great live album,which shows what MOBY GRAPE was all about-great rock'n'roll.

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3.0 out of 5 stars Live Grape is better than no Grape, April 22, 2010

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Christopher Abbot "Vineyarder" (Oak Bluffs, MA) - See all my reviews
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The Grape was one of those bands whose chemistry was a rare and wonderful thing, but one which was also incredibly fragile. While Skip Spence was an integral part of the first Columbia LP, these live sessions--made within weeks of the record's release--show just how inconsistent his artistry was. His singing in the lovely "Someday" is muted and off-key; the song is rescued from disaster by the harmony singing of Peter Lewis and Bob Mosley. The highly-praised three-guitar attack is often reduced here to Miller's sparkling and intelligent leads, with occasionally audible contributions from Lewis and Spence.
The star of these sessions is Bob Mosley. While his singing could sound overly-sonorous and even pompous on record, in these live tapes there is a surprising amount of nuance and sensitivity. He takes the lead on Spence's "Omaha" in the Dutch radio version from 1969, and you don't miss Spence's vocal; this extended version (6 minutes' worth) is a highlight of the CD. The rest of the Dutch session proves just how viable the band was without Spence.
One other important consideration is the mono sound--I wasn't aware until I bought the CD that only the first session from the Avalon in 1967 was recorded in stereo. The 1969 tapes are fine, professionally recorded by Dutch radio--stereo radio was practically unknown at the time, so this is how the broadcast would have sounded.
Unfortunately, the last cut is the worst: "Dark Magic" is described by annotator David Fricke, who should know better, as an "acid-guitar masterpiece." The "acid" part is the key: if listening while high, the song might have some mystical coherence; for the rest of us, it's over 17 minutes of guitar noodling, feedback and incomprehensible "lyrics" that apparently resulted from a jam that the newly-formed band concocted. The Grape on record was not known for its extended songs--in fact, that was one of the refreshing things about them; but Fricke claims that the Grape were "more advanced and coherent in their improvising" than either the Dead (whom this song most resembles--"Dark Star" perhaps?) and Quicksilver. I suppose it's just possible that, in 1966, the Dead and Quicksilver were less accomplished than they were by the next year, but I doubt it. Quicksilver especially had much more discipline and invention in the persons of Gary Duncan and John Cipollina than the Grape's three guitarists could manage.
For Grape lovers, the disc will be self-recommending. Until such time as the idiot Katz is forced to relinquish the rights to the 1st LP and Wow!, this and various compilations are the best we can hope for. Sundazed has done us all a big favor.

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5.0 out of 5 stars San Fran band in the perfect setting, LIVE, April 23, 2010

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Kevin D. Rathert (Carbondale, IL) - See all my reviews
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First off, let me say I am a huge Moby Grape fan, but I was leery of a cd full of previously unreleased, at least legitimately, material. However, just minutes into the cd I was reminded just great these guys were live, and how unfortunately the promise of their first, classic, lp was nullified by the ensuing mayhem well documented elsewhere. However, what we have here, thanks to the meticulous mastering job by Bob Irwin at Sundazed Records. The source tapes are not of ideal quality, but is consistently better than any live Grape previously available on bootleg. On the menu here are pieces from 5 separate Grape live recordings, 1 in 1966 (the stunning 17 minute closer "Dark Magic" which shows the newly formed band jamming a la Quicksilver Messenger Service. The bands 1967 appearance at the Monterey Pop Fest is found here featuring 4 songs from the then recently released self-titled debut album, all performed effortlessly as the triple guitar attack of the band is in tune, while the bottom end is held down effortlessly yet quite effectively by bassist Bob Mosley and drummer Don Stevenson. Two versions of the band's classic Skip Spence tune "Omaha" are included. The band's cover of B. B. King's "Sweet Little Angel" shows the group's versatility as they deliciously unveil the blues band within the rock band within the psych band within....The word that keeps coming to mind throughout the discs 74 minute run time is "effortless." No three guitar players should be able to play so seamlessly, never play over each other, and always be willing to sit back and let a mate take the break. The tragic train wreck which was the Grape's career is certainly not discernible on "Live." Yes, the source tapes may not always be ideal, but the stereo recordings from the Avalon Ballroom in 1967 are of exceptional quality and none of the tracks are undeserving. Are there more Grape live recordings of sufficient quality and available at an honest price for further Sundazed Grape live releases? Only the remaining band members and Bob Irwin would be able to answer that question, but I for one give Irwin and his Sundazed label 5 full stars for finally getting the band at its best released legitimately. Moby Grape was original. Three guitarist, five songwriting vocalists and the world at its feet for a moment in 1967. "Live" goes a long way in explaining why the band was so coveted and did manage to release one nearly perfect studio album before self destructing. If you're a fan of the Grape, 60s psych, San Fran sound, or just plain good singing, songwriting, and playing then this cd is a must. If not, what's wrong with you? Since the debut album is in and out of print on a moment's notice due to legalities, the ideal taking off point is the long deleted in the US but still in print abroad double-disc set "Vintage" which contains all 13 tracks from the debut album and a great overview of the band's 5 lp run at Columbia. Then snag a copy of "Live" and you'll be wondering why you haven't been listening to these guys for year.