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More Joel on Software: Further Thoughts on Diverse and Occasionally Related Matters That Will Prove of Interest to Software Developers, Designers, ... or Ill Luck, Work with Them in Some Capacity Paperback – June 25, 2008

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  • Paperback: 320 pages
  • Publisher: Apress; 1 edition (June 25, 2008)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1430209879
  • ISBN-13: 978-1430209874
  • Product Dimensions: 9 x 6.6 x 0.9 inches
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  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (12 customer reviews)
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Joel Spolsky is a globally recognized expert on the software development process. His web site Joel on Software (JoelonSoftware.com) is popular with software developers around the world and has been translated into over 30 languages. As the founder of Fog Creek Software in New York City, he created FogBugz, a popular project management system for software teams. Joel has worked at Microsoft, where he designed Visual Basic for Applications as a member of the Excel team, and at Juno Online Services, developing an Internet client used by millions. He has written two books: User Interface Design for Programmers (Apress, 2001) and Joel on Software (Apress, 2004). Joel holds a bachelor's of science degree in computer science from Yale University. Before college, he served in the Israeli Defense Forces as a paratrooper, and he was one of the founders of Kibbutz Hanaton.

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As soon as I joined my MS program in UAB, one of my senior student recommended this series of Joel to me.
SPP
Since I've been reading joelonsoftware for the past two years, a lot of this was already familiar to me, but it was well worth rereading.
William B. Swift
I felt ripped off buying this book after just reading "Smart and Gets Thinks Done" as it's a cut and paste from that book into this one.
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If you're a fan of the website Joel On Software, you will enjoy having so many of his postings in a single volume. More Joel on Software: Further Thoughts on Diverse and Occasionally Related Matters That Will Prove of Interest to Software Developers, Designers, and ... Luck, Work with Them in Some Capacity by Joel Spolsky takes a number of his blog postings over the last six years and presents in a context that was unavailable as they unfold over time. This aspect of book over blog allows him to consolidate thoughts or explain the evolution of concepts that he's experienced as one of the A-list bloggers in the tech community.

Contents:
Part 1 - Managing People: My first BillG Review; Finding Great Developers; A Field Guide to Developers; Three Management Methods (Introduction); The Command and Control Management Method; The Econ 101 Management Method; The Identity Management Method
Part 2 - Advice to Potential Programmers: The Perils of JavaSchools; Talk at Yale; Advice for Computer Science College Students
Part 3 - The Impact of Design: Font Smoothing, Anti-Aliasing, and Subpixel Rendering; A Game of Inches; The Big Picture; Choices = Headaches; It's Not Just Usability; Building Communities with Software
Part 4 - Managing Large Projects: Martian Headsets; Why Are the Microsoft Office File Formats So Complicated? (And Some Workarounds); Where There's Muck, There's Brass
Part 5 - Programming Advice: Evidence-Based Scheduling; Strategy Letter VI; Can Your Programming Language Do This?
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful By Bas Vodde on October 5, 2008
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"More Joel on Software" is exactly what it says. It's a follow-up on "Joel on Software", a collection of blog posts from Joel Spolskys well-known blog "Joel on Software". I thoroughly enjoyed the first collection of Joels posts and thus was looking forward to this. And... I was disappointed. It IS good, Joel is an excellent and funny author and his posts are interesting, but... it was not as good as the first collection of posts :) Is he running out of ideas? We'll see in "Even More Joel on Software" which ought to be ready in four years...

Slight disappointment, but still enjoyed Joels latest collection of posts. Let me point out a few of his posts to give an idea what he covers.

The first post "My First BillG review" was a great story in which Joel tells his experience with Bill Gates reviewing his spec for MS Excel (many years ago) and how Bill reacted to the spec and what impression it led to him. It's a nice post and gives an insight to the working of MS during that time.

"The Perils of JavaSchools" criticized the universities that uses Java as main languages for teaching computer science. Joel argues that developers do not learn "the hard parts" about programming when using a language like Java.

In "Why are the MS Office File Formats So Complicated" Joel takes a look at the insanely large file format spec for Office files and explains why they became the way they are. Then he gives some advise on what to do when you want to read Office files (not write it yourself)

In "Hitting the High Notes", Joel explores the productivity difference between developers from many different perspectives and argues that great developers are absolutely essential for great products. This was his main idea behind setting up his own business.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful By Dror Guzman on February 15, 2010
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I loved the 2nd book in the serious: "Joel On Software" and wonder what can he possible say this time. Apparently, Spolsky did a good job. I read it cover to cover and couldn't stop laughing when reading 'Camels and Rubber Duckies'. Just for this I gave it 4 starts.

Having said that (or writing that); he did paraphrase from his previous book. But the bottom line is this: if you are a programmer/software-entrepreneur or a student in the computer-science world, take this book and read it. It has some great tips. I would surly use his interview questions the next time I need to hire someone...

Dror Guzman
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2 of 3 people found the following review helpful By William B. Swift on August 7, 2008
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Since I've been reading joelonsoftware for the past two years, a lot of this was already familiar to me, but it was well worth rereading. Some of the essays were old enough and I hadn't come by links to them so they were new to me, but not many. Most of the first part Managing People was already published in Joel's Smart and Gets Things Done.

Anyone even considering working on shrink-wrap software, especially in a small company, should read this book. (Anyone considering consultingware should especially read the last chapter; it will convince you not to, unless you are a masochist.)
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By David Lynch on December 31, 2012
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He has a clean and simple writing style, and a very convincing perspective on application development. I think much of his insight seems obvious, but is not followed in any of the places I have worked.
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By SPP on December 6, 2011
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As soon as I joined my MS program in UAB, one of my senior student recommended this series of Joel to me. I read the first and the second one with passion. Lot of information and I like most of them. One of the highlights I remember from this book is Part 1 that explains Managing people. I am following his recommendations for getting the right resource to do the job. And it is hard to get the right people always.

Also he describes about the 3 management methods, which shed some light for me in managing my team.

The one main thing I want to talk about Joel is his ease of expression. While reading the books that he wrote, I never felt bored.

Looking for more works from you Joel.

Thank you
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