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17 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
Looks are deceiving. - Very Disapointed, March 5, 2007
This review is from: Mr. Coffee GBX23 Grind-and-Brew 12-Cup Programmable Coffeemaker (Kitchen)
After the last experience with Mr Coffee, which is officially known as the Great Coffee disaster of 2003, we had to purchase another one on the fly as ours broke right before company was about to show. My wife went down to the nearest place with the instructions of NOT to buy another model from Mr Coffee due to so many messy counters of coffee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that coffee tastes much better coming out of the pot and not from my kitchen counter which happenned about half the time.
ANYWAY,
I get a call from my wife stating that all this place sold was hamilton beach and Mr C. She said "they have one that grinds" and I automatically said get it.
When I opened it up and made my first pot of water, you know - to clean it, I was surprised to see that they actually fixed the fluid release where the coffee goes into the pot. I had HIGH hopes for this one. It seemed that it would actually work.
Man was i completely wrong. It is a pain to clean every time. Even when you don't use it to grind beans, you have to clean the compartment because of all the moisture. The compartment is too small for beans so you get a weak cup of coffee. This is also due to how the water filters over the grain. It only seems to hit half of the grinds. I opened it up to inspect why my Starbucks Sumatra roast (one of the strongest coffees) tasted like brown water. Half of the grinds were still dry. Not to mention that so much grind gets stuck in the bean chamber and area where it is supposed to enter the filter. There is no grind setting so i get mostly larges grains.
What are the engineers at mr coffee doing. Do they sit around and walk next door to starbucks for their coffee. DO they EVEN TEST THEIR OWN STUFF? I am utterly shocked.
If Mr Coffee is reading this and I have some hope that they actually have people out there that look at these, I have have a couple of suggestions.
1. 1989 Called - They want their coffee maker back.
2. Grind beans above the filter - not at an angle,
3. separate the water flow from the bean compartment.
4. HOTTER COFFEE PLEASE
5. Drip over the Whole Filter - not just half
6. Grinder settings - fine to coarse.
7. Temperature settings
8. Add a water filter
9. Make the above step easier by copying melitta.
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15 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Disappointing, disappointing, disappointing., December 12, 2006
This review is from: Mr. Coffee GBX23 Grind-and-Brew 12-Cup Programmable Coffeemaker (Kitchen)
I have been through two Melitta Mill and Brews (both of which had the latch break) and have experimented with the Capresso CoffeeTeamLuxe (which I promptly returned because it won't allow you to decide how many beans you want to grind, it decides for you).
I was hoping for better with Mr. Coffee's grind and brew. Sadly, was not to be.
So, what are the big problems here?
1) The grinder capacity. If you make more than 8 cups, you really can't get enough beans in this thing to make a decently strong cup of coffee. Very annoying.
2) Clean-up. This thing is a mess. The grinder and channel is a royal pain to clean, and must be cleaned after each use. Ugh.
3) The lid latch looks like it was designed by the same monkeys who designed the Melitta latch. I'm expecting it to go crunch roughly 2 months after the warranty expires.
4) A return to paper filters. Oh my goodness, does anyone use paper filters anymore? Yeah, I freshly grind my beans just so I can strip out all the coffee flavor by running it all through paper! Good gosh.
This all being said, it brews an OK cup of coffee. Not great, not terrible.
I would have happily continued on with my Melitta had the latch not been such an issue, though. And since Salton's support is so awful, I decided to travel down a different road. This one, not so good. Oh well.
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38 of 44 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
Horrible, February 19, 2007
This review is from: Mr. Coffee GBX23 Grind-and-Brew 12-Cup Programmable Coffeemaker (Kitchen)
My girlfriend picked up one of these guys a couple months ago. Since then I've gone through different techniques to try to get a decent cup of coffee out of it, without any luck whatsoever. Here are my main complaints with this machine:
1. The whole grind and brew idea is a bad one in my opinion, I mean what's the point? Are you trying to save time? Because the clean up you have to do with all the parts of the machine takes way way longer than the time it takes to grind coffee in a grinder and then scoop it into a filter. Or is the point supposed to be counter space because it seems to me grinders themselves usually are not that big and can easily be stowed away in a cabinet inbetween uses.
2. The grinds go everywhere but the filter. At first I thought my girlfriend simply wasn't putting in enough beans and that was why the coffee was so weak and had that strange metallic burnt taste, but then I took a look inside and realized that probably about 25% of the grinds were coating all the plastic parts inside the machine rather than in the filter.
3. Even without using the grind and brew feature this thing makes horrible coffee. The coffee usually has the metallic taste I mentioned before, I think this may have to do with all the cheap metallic parts in the grinder compartment. Also the coffee somehow always manages to taste burnt even though I turned the heating plate all the way down to low.
4. The price is insane. I mean for 85-90 bucks you can get an excellent coffee maker and an excellent grinder.
About two years ago I went out and purchased the cheapest coffee maker I could find for my work office, it was a braun that cost about $20. That thing consistently made coffee 20 times better than this machine ever could. I went on consumer reports and it was the highest rated coffee maker overall (the $20 braun that is). Granted it doesn't have an automatic shut off and it's not programable but it makes amazing coffee and it costs less than 1/4 the price of this machine, which would leave you around $65 to find a good grinder.
The grinder I use is the kitchen aid model and it works great for me and currently its at $25 on amazon. I recommend saveing yourself 40 dollars and a headache and get the $20 bruan coffe maker (Braun Aromamaster KF400) and the kitchen aid grinder for $25 (KitchenAid BCG100OB Blade Coffee Grinder). They may not look as good on your contertop but the taste of the coffee won't let you down.
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