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The Musical Dialogue - Thoughts on Monteverdi, Bach and Mozart (Paperback) [Paperback]

Nikolaus Harnoncourt (Author)
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March 1, 2003
This collection of lectures, talks and essays focuses on three major composers of the 17th and 18th centuries.

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Nikolaus Harnoncourt has been one of the most important and influential leaders of the 20th-century revival of Baroque instruments and period performance practice--not just because he's a hardworking and talented musician, but because he's articulate. (He has had to be articulate: in the 1960s and 1970s, most of the classical-music establishment was contemptuous of, if not downright hostile to, his ideas.) The Musical Dialogue, along with Harnoncourt's Baroque Music Today: Music as Speech (to which this volume was issued as a companion), is a valuable collection of lectures and essays laying out those ideas. In the previous book, Harnoncourt discussed his views on phrasing (using short phrases based on the idea of rhetoric rather than on a long, unbroken legato line) and the use of period instruments (not simply because the composer used them, but because, when played well, they reveal more of the music to our ears now).

In The Musical Dialogue, Harnoncourt gets specific: he discusses how Monteverdi, Bach, and Mozart used particular instruments and forms and talks about his own experience analyzing and performing particular works. Among the topics he treats are the various possibilities for instrumentation in Monteverdi's works (and why there are so many), how he figured out what exactly was the oboe da caccia ("hunting oboe") called for in some of Bach's vocal works, and the performance history of the St. Matthew Passion and the Mass in B Minor and how that history has affected audience reactions to modern-day period-instrument performances of the works.

Perhaps most valuable are Harnoncourt's discussions of Mozart: for example, how the meaning of tempo markings such as "allegro" and "andante" has changed from the 18th century to today, as well as the many and varied conventions of phrasing that were widely understood--and therefore were not written out in Mozart's scores and performing parts. One caveat: these essays were written in the 1970s and 1980s, and there are a few cases where subsequent events have overtaken Harnoncourt's observations. For example, Monteverdi's large-scale works were probably not orchestrated quite as freely as he indicates; there are now a number of mixed adult choirs that can reproduce fairly well the pure tone of boys' choirs (which was not true in the 1960s and 1970s); and present-day composers and audiences are no longer completely alienated from each other, especially in the United States. Nevertheless, the observations of this important, influential, and idiosyncratic maestro make fascinating reading. --Matthew Westphal

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Text: English, German (translation) --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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  • Paperback: 220 pages
  • Publisher: Amadeus Press (March 1, 2003)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1574670239
  • ISBN-13: 978-1574670233
  • Product Dimensions: 9 x 6 x 0.7 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
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5.0 out of 5 stars Musical linguist decodes the old masters, March 4, 2007
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This is a very educational read for lovers of the music of Monteverdi, Bach, and Mozart who are interested in 'how' they are performed and what is 'period-consistent' ... according to the legendary conductor.

It is not an easy read... quite technical and require that you can at least read music score and have at least some understanding of classical composition. Herr Harnoncourt discusses what he deduces from what 'is not' written in the score of these composers (ex: when there're markings that seem redundant or unnecessary, they're there to cancel out something else that was so taken for granted as 'traditional way of playing' in those times that the composers didn't feel they needed to put it on the score, etc). He also discusses some specific works like Monteverdi's 'L'incoronazione di Poppea', Mozart's 'Idomeneo', and Bach's 'St Matthew's Passion'.

Very well written (and translated)... thought provoking and helps me understand Herr Harnoncourt's style of conducting these music better. But you've gotta do your homeworks and know something about music composition before trying this book (at the very least, know how to read music and about harmony and musical structure). I'd have loved it if he had included some photos of autograph scores by the composers... or a CD. But then I think the book was written for his musical colleague rather than to the general public.
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Superb study focusing on interpretation/performance of the works of the three named composers. Familiarity with the works discussed, and some knowledge of music notation, will be helpful - having records, CDs, or DVDs of Harnoncourt's performances of course adds an extra dimension. Highly recommended.
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Key Phrases - Statistically Improbable Phrases (SIPs): (learn more)
minor symphony, bow vibrato, portative organ, molto andante, violino piccolo, pił andante, first tutti, pił adagio, slide trumpet, sacred version, articulation marks, tone repetitions, late operas, tempo marks, incarnatus est, second choir
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Matthew Passion, John Passion, Minor Mass, Gottes Sohn, Leopold Mozart, Middle Ages, Philipp Emanuel, Thomas School, Claudio Monteverdi, Friedrich Smend, Daughter of Zion, Agnus Dei, Christmas Oratorio, Bach's Passions, Duke of Mantua, Good Friday, Johann Sebastian Bach, Michael Praetorius, Don Giovanni, Marian Vespers, Act Three
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