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12 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars A contrarian provides an interesting look at the information security industry
The Myths of Security: What the Computer Security Industry Doesn't Want You to Know is an interesting and thought-provoking book. Ultimately, the state of information security can be summed up in the book's final three sentences, in which John Viega writes that 'real, timely improvement is possible, but it requires people to care a lot more [about security] than they do...
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24 of 27 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Since consumers don't care about security, why write a book like this for them?
Let me start by saying I usually like John Viega's books. I rated Building Secure Software 5 stars back in 2005 and 19 Deadly Sins of Software Security 4 stars in 2006. However, I must not be the target audience for this book, and I can't imagine who really would be. The book mainly addresses consumer concerns and largely avoids the enterprise. However, if most...
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24 of 27 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Since consumers don't care about security, why write a book like this for them?, August 13, 2009
This review is from: The Myths of Security: What the Computer Security Industry Doesn't Want You to Know (Paperback)
Let me start by saying I usually like John Viega's books. I rated Building Secure Software 5 stars back in 2005 and 19 Deadly Sins of Software Security 4 stars in 2006. However, I must not be the target audience for this book, and I can't imagine who really would be. The book mainly addresses consumer concerns and largely avoids the enterprise. However, if most consumers think "antivirus" when they think "security," why would they bother reading The Myths of Security (TMOS)?

TMOS is strongest when Viega talks about the antivirus (or antimalware, or endpoint protection, or whatever host-centric security mechanism you choose) industry. I didn't find anything to be particularly "myth-shattering," however. I have to agree with two of the previous reviewers. Many of the "chapters" in this book could be blog posts. The longer chapters could be longer blog posts. The lack of a unifying theme really puts TMOS at a disadvantage compared to well-crafted books. I was not a huge fan of The New School of Information Security or Geekonomics (both 4 stars), but those two titles are better than TMOS.

If you want to read books that will really help you think properly about digital security, the two must-reads are still Secrets and Lies by Bruce Schneier and Security Engineering, 2nd Ed by Ross Anderson. I would avoid Bruce's sequel, Beyond Fear -- it's ok, but he muddles a few concepts. (Heresy, I know!) I haven't read Schneier on Security, but I imagine it is good given the overall quality of his blog postings.

If you want to shatter some serious myths, spend time writing a book on the "80% myth," which is stated in a variety of ways by anyone who is trying to demonstrate that insider threats are the worst problem facing digital security. If you're going to pretend to debunk open source security, why not back it up with some numbers? Studies have been published recently, and original research and results would be welcome. How about demonstrating that user awareness training wastes money, because enough marks fall prey anyway? I'd also like to see research showing that frequent password changes are worse for security, not better. Wrap all of that in a coherent manner with substantial chapters and you have a real TMOS book.
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12 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars A contrarian provides an interesting look at the information security industry, August 31, 2009
This review is from: The Myths of Security: What the Computer Security Industry Doesn't Want You to Know (Paperback)
The Myths of Security: What the Computer Security Industry Doesn't Want You to Know is an interesting and thought-provoking book. Ultimately, the state of information security can be summed up in the book's final three sentences, in which John Viega writes that 'real, timely improvement is possible, but it requires people to care a lot more [about security] than they do. I'm not sure that's going to happen anytime soon. But I hope it does.'

The reality is that while security evangelists such as Viega write valuable books such as this, it is for the most part falling on deaf ears. Most people don't understand computer security and its risks, and therefore places themselves and the systems they are working in danger. Malware finds computers to load on, often in part to users who are oblivious to the many threats.

Much of the book is made up of Viega's often contrarian views of the security industry. With so much hype abound, many of the often skeptical views he writes about, show what many may perceive are information security truths, are indeed security myths.

From the title of the book, one might think that there is indeed a conspiracy in the computer security industry to keep users dumb and insecure. But as the author notes in chapter 45 -- An Open Security Industry, the various players in the computer security industry all work in their own fiefdoms. This is especially true when it comes to anti-virus, with each vendor to a degree reinventing the anti-virus wheel. The chapter shows how sharing amongst these companies is heavily needed. With that, the book's title of What the Computer Security Industry Doesn't Want You to Know is clearly meant to be provocative, but not true-life.

The book is made up of 48 chapters, on various so called myths. Most of the chapter are 2-3 pages in length and tackle each of these myths. The range of topics covers the entire security industry, with topics spanning from various security technologies, issues, risks, and people.

While not every chapter is a myth per se, many are. Perhaps the most evocative of the security myth is chapters 10 -- Four Minutes to Infection and chapter 22 -- Do Antivirus Vendors Write their own Viruses?. But the bulk of the book is not about myths per se, rather an overview of the state of information security, and why it is in such a state.

In chapter 16, The Cult of Schneier [full disclosure -- Bruce Schneier and I work for the same company], Viega takes Schneier to task for the fact that many people are using his book Applied Cryptography, even though it has not been updated in over a decade. It is not fair to blame him for that. While Viega admits that he holds Schneier in high esteem, the chapter reads like the author is somehow jealous of Schneier's security rock star status.

Chapter 18 is on the topic of security snake oil, ironically a topic Schneier has long been at the forefront of. The chapter gives the reader sage advice that it is important to do their homework on security products you buy and to make sure you have at least a high-level understanding of the technical merits and drawbacks of the security product at hand. The problem though is that the vast majority of end-users clearly don't have the technical wherewithal to do that. It is precisely that scenario that gives rise to far too many security snake-oil vendors.

Perhaps the best chapter in the book, and the one to likely get the most comments, is chapter 24 -- Open Source Security: A Red Herring. Viega takes on Eric Raymond's theory of open source security that "given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow." Viega notes that a large challenge with security and open source is that a lot of the things that make for secure systems are not well defined. Viega closes with the argument that one can argue open versus closed source forever, but there isn't strong evidence to suggest that it is the right question to be asking in the first place.

Overall, The Myths of Security: What the Computer Security Industry Doesn't Want You to Know is good introduction to information security. While well-written and though provoking, the book may be too conceptual and unstructured for an average end-user, and too basic for many experienced information security professionals. But for those that are interested, the book covers the entire gamut of the information security, and the reader, either security pro or novice, comes out much better informed.

While the author makes it clear he works for McAfee, and at times takes the company to task; the book references McAfee far too many times. At times the book seems like it is an advertisement for the company.

Viega does give interesting and often entertaining overviews of what we often take for granted. Some of the books arguments are debatable, but many more are a refreshing look at the dynamic information security industry. Viega has sat down and written his observations of what it going on. They are worth perusing, and the book is definitely worth reading.

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7 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A Rude Awakening for Many (Who Will Probably Try and Hide or Dismiss the Facts), July 9, 2009
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I was lucky enough to be sent a pre-production copy of the book by John. As I read the TOC my jaw dropped. Finally someone has the balls to say whats really happening. Far too many people have been hiding behind marketing FUD or driving their opinions and defending their actions laregly to defend their careers and salaries. I am sure it's a tough message to swallow for many. I saw many things I am or have been guilty of in the book. That's all the more reason why it needed to be said. The industry needs to be cleaned up and the BS called out for what it is.

I applaude John for having the balls to write it.

Its not just a must read, its a must take note and must take action book!
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6 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Wonderfully contrarian writing on our views of computer security, August 18, 2009
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This is a wonderfully contrarian view to much of the information we are fed regarding security. Viega brings a much-needed skeptical view to many of the things we as consumers and workers in the IT industry are fed. He skewers everything from antivirus to identity theft and takes a lot of effort to lay out his propositions around how bad guys are driven by money.

I got a bit weary of the not-quite-shilling for McAffee, the company Viega works for, and there were a couple technical howlers (a server-side application which required 200 servers simply "because it was written in Java"). Those irritants aside, it really is a great read which, whether you agree with his points or not, should make you re-evaluate how you look at security.

Books which make you think are always a Good Thing.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Ask Felgall - Book Review, December 14, 2011
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In some ways this is a very scary book in that it very clearly explains how impossible that it is to actually secure a computer or network and clearly shows how some options give a false sense of security and may even make your system less secure. On the other hand, the book does make it clear what parts of security software do work and how well they work (where having security software works better than not having it). For the most part I agree fully with what the author says about security software worth having and what isn't worth it both for those who know nothing about security and for those more knowledgeable. With those areas where I did not have sufficient prior knowledge to have formed an opinion the viewpoint in the book appears logical.

The closest that I come to actually disagreeing with the author is with regard to personal firewalls. He points out that unless the firewall itself is preconfigured to know what software should and shouldn't have access that the computer user is presented with a whole lot of popups from all the components of the software that they have installed that ask for access. Obviously only someone really knowledgeable on what components belong to what software with a high level of security knowledge as well can reasonably answer all those questions and the typical user will either answer no inappropriately and block their software from running or will answer yes to everything and so defeat the purpose in having the software running in the first place. I agree fully with the author up to that point and yet I still run a personal firewall on all the computers I have at home. The reason that I do this is not really security related (although having a firewall alert pop up at a time when I am not starting a new program is still a good clue to it being something that should be blocked).Basically I run a firewall to control what programs have access to the web. For example I have a copy of Google Chrome installed on my computer that I use for occasional testing of JavaScript that I write. Since I only perform these tests occasionally there is no need for the program to be allowed to check for updates every day and I therefore have it blocked from performing that function in the personal firewall.

Perhaps the biggest problem that this book has is identifying just who its target audience is. For the most part (as acknowledged in the book) the typical computer user has no interest in security and therefore is unlikely to even look at the book. Many of those actually working in security probably think that they already know all the answers and so would also not read this book (even though they are the ones who would probably benefit the most from reading it).

The second biggest problem with this book is that it presents you with all the reasons why various parts of computer security don't work but doesn't (and can't) provide the solutions to those problems. While someone who has read the book will have a much greater understanding of how their computer security isn't protecting them as well as it should, they are still stuck with nothing better to put in its place.
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7 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Awful, opinionated., December 3, 2010
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I expected much more from John Viega, but this book has so much unsubstantiated opinion and reads like an arrogant and ill thought out blog, that I want to return the book for a refund.

Chapter 5, "Test of a Good Security Product: Would I Use It?", he then lists some he uses and those he doesn't:

Under the "he does use it" category: "I've been forced to run god-awful VPN (virtual private net-work) software at work (usually the crappy Cisco client). This allows me to access my company's resources even when I'm not actually in the office."

So I take it the god-awful software is a pass of this test? And the use of VPN software to access internal office network resources is a revelation?


Under the "he does NOT use it" category: he lists firewalls and his reasoning? Because he does not need to use one at home, on account that his cable MODEM and wireless router are NAT capable and therefore hosts behind them are not externally addressable. So firewalls fail the "good security product" test because John Viega does not need them at home? Seriously?

He then ends the "does NOT use" category with "Any other consumer security product"!


In Chapter 16, "The Cult of Schneier", he has a few stabs at Bruce Schneier, but does not give any specifics with the technical depth that Bruce Schneier deserves. He complains that Applied Cryptography is overly referred to by Schneier cultists, given that it has been 13 years since it was updated and the field has advanced since then. He uses MD5 as an example of something that was considered very strong then but not now. From my recollection of that brilliant cryptography foundation, Bruce mentioned that MD5 was suspected to have a weakness.

Edit: Dug out my much loved and tattered Applied Cryptography 2nd Ed. Here's the quote: "Tom Berson attempted to use differential cryptanalysis against a single round of MD5, but his attack is ineffective against all four rounds. A more successful attack by den Boer and Bosselaers produces collisions using the compression function of MD5. This does not lend itself to attacks against MD5 in Luby-Rackoff-like encryption algorithms. It does mean that one of the basic design priciples of MD5 - to design a collision-resistant compression function - has been violated. Although it is true that "there seems to be a weakness in the compression function, but it has no practical impact on the security of the hash function", I am wary of using MD5."

At the end of this chapter John states, "I'd like to make a plea for Schneierists to not accept every word Bruce Schneier has written as utterly factual". So the field has advanced 13 years from the snapshot in time that Applied Cryptography captured and so Bruce did not capture the facts at the time? So was there a better book at that time?


Under Chapter 27 "Virtualization: Host Security's Silver Bullet?", John suggests that Apple could get a leg up on Microsoft in the security of virtualization, by adding hardware support for virtualization in Open Firmware, "which it (Apple) controls". Strange, given that Apple have not mass shipped Open Firmware based computers (using the PowerPC archtecture), since the transition to EFI Intel based computers was completed in 2006. This book was first release three years after that!

He also claims that, "I think virtualization is the long-term future of host security", which flies in the face of Google research which found all x86 based virtualization products were vulnerable to attacks which allowed stepping out of an exploited virtual machine and into another adjacent virtual machine or even the host VM OS itself, seizing full control of the host and all virtual machines. Just take a look at all the advisories for the past years since that Google research to see that virtualization continues to provide a new attack surface for attackers.


Under Chapter 40 "VPNs Usually Decrease Security", John claims that VPN's reduce security because when an Internet connected client connects to a secured office network via VPN, it is now connected to the internet and the secured office network. But this is only practically true in for a split tunnel VPN configuration. If a corporation sets their laptops up for that, without anti-malware and a host firewall, then they get what they deserve.


There is nothing exceptional in this embarrassment of a book. It is filled with opinion that is not backed up. I'd expect this quality from a column in some monthly glossy PC magazine that is peddled from stands in the checkout aisle of super markets. I wish I could give zero stars. Really awful.
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5 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Dont be fooled by the Title, July 25, 2010
This review is from: The Myths of Security: What the Computer Security Industry Doesn't Want You to Know (Paperback)
Like another commentator stated, I am not sure who the intended audience for this book, but if you have at least one MONTH of computer security experience, then you already know everything that's in this book. It is definitely not stimulating or thought provoking. If you are in any aspect of the IT industry and are looking for a book to expand your knowledge, then this book is not for you.

It was any easy read though, was able to finish it in two days. And believe me the only reason I finished it was because I forked over the money to buy it. It pretty much is a worthless read. Not sure what to do with it now. I wouldn't want to read it again.

Gave it two stars cause it had some security information but the book is not what it perceives to be.
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3 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars A Working of Wind-Socking, February 7, 2011
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The title of this book should be "Information Security: One Mans Battle With Himself and Everyone Else". The author doesn't know what he likes or dislikes, so he hedges his as he likes and dislike everything at once. In certain situations he feels the hassle for security protocol is worth the effort, in other yet remarkably similar situations he feels the same protocol a total waste of time. Only he knows, er, or maybe not, what the differences are, while the reader is feeling nauseous from the roller coaster ride of emotional opinion.
I rate it two stars only on account of the occasional tidbit of juicy security/technology bits that you can add to your repertoire. It's a shame that the author chose to road he took to convey his ideas. I think it would be more respected if it were a straight up techy book.
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10 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Not worth paying $20 for, August 11, 2009
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This is certainly not a book you'd buy to keep on your shelf and refer to again like, say, Viega's Secure Programming Cookbook. It's more like a collection of rants and opinion pieces that more properly belong in a magazine or on a blog. It's very 2009 - a large portion of the book will probably be out of date anyway by next year. And the preface is just one big advert for McAfee, even though Viega does bag them a little - just a little - elsewhere in the book. Not worth paying $20 for.
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6 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Great if you're not in the security industry, otherwise yawn, August 17, 2009
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Several security bloggers recommended this book, so I picked up. It's a very fast read, not only because of the short chapters but also the anemic content. As a veteran with a decade in infosec and a couple decades in IT, the whole thing struck me as an amuse bouche of obviousness. Basically, I read a short essay, nodded my head "uh huh, uh huh" and then it turned the page and it was the end of the chapter. Basically I learned very little new, except that SiteAdvisor was cool (the author's service) and that was that. I think I blew through the whole thing in about an hour. Of course, if you're not working in security and are curious about what's really going on, then this is worth checking out. It summarizes a lot of arguments and suppositions, basically saving a dozen or so hours of trolling security blogs to pick up the same issues.
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