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"Philosophy, Science, and Poetry", January 23, 2002
Lucretius, the Epicurean poet of the first century BC, was immortalized for his work "On the Nature of the Universe," which is a brilliant manifestation of Epicurius' atomic theory by a means of hexametrical verse tinged with lucid philosophy. This work has stood for so long as a classic monument of Latin poetry not only since it contains such a bounty of sweet verse and song, but also for the simple fact that Lucretius' work was the most modern for its time. This furthermore allowed "On the Nature of the Universe" to hold the reins of superiority--with regards to its modernity of course--for many subsequent generations. Lucretius' stark conviction that the world is not controlled by the gods, that man is solely in control of his destiny on earth, and that the soul perishes with the body, no doubt aroused the conservative sentiments of the time; and for this reason the work endures due to the epic and timeless battle between Science and Religion. For anyone interested in the Greco-Roman Classics, poetry, or just good literature, Lucretius' masterpiece will be an excellent choice.
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Supernatural Explanations and the Gods are Not Needed in Explaining Things in Nature - An Early Atomistic Perspective, September 21, 2009
This review is from: On the Nature of the Universe (Oxford World's Classics) (Paperback)
Titus Lucretius Carus ([99?] 95 - [55?] 50 BC) was an excellent Epicurean philosopher and poet in which very little is known of his life, however, this poem which is best translated to be called " On the Nature of Things", is his best work that sheds light on his character and view of the nature of the universe. He ends up being one of the earliest substantial representatives of Atomism which was supported and argued for by quite a few early philosophers such as Leucippus and Democritus a few centuries before Lucretius. Atomism generally is belief in the nature of substances being made up of and voids and generally implied a mechanistic view of nature. Atomism ultimately was debated, discussed, and supported to great lengths from Leucippus to Democritus to Newton to Dalton to Bohr. The views of Atoms we have today in Physics and Chemistry are a legacy of these and earlier Atomists. As such theories of atoms are ridiculously old and are not "modern" at all. They are ancient just as Heliocentrism, Geometry, Trigonometry, Statics, Kinematics, Vacuums, Plastic surgery, Zoology, Anatomy, Optics, Medicine, Megnetism, Material sciences, and lots of other disciplines and theories that are not new at all. Please read some primary documents on the historical sciences
The Mathematics of Egypt, Mesopotamia, China, India, and Islam: A Sourcebook and
Greek Science of the Hellenistic Era: A Sourcebook. For a basic history of the philosophy of the atom before the modern atomic age please read
Atomism and Its Critics: From Democritus to Newton. By the way, the word "atom" is from the Greek word "atomos" which literally means "uncut or undissectable". For those interested in Democritus and other pre-Lucretius and pre-Epicurean atomistic views from available fragments please read
Handbook of Greek Philosophy: From Thales to the Stoics: Analysis and Fragments and
Early Greek Philosophy (Penguin Classics).
Lucretius serves to be an excellent poet who reflects some views on nature that existed during his time. Many people who read this book may get a weird sense that atomism is a defense of the religion of atheism and other religious atheistic denominations such as metaphysical naturalism, however, it should be noted that though Lucretius mentions and criticizes "religion" as a "crushing burden on human life" that poisons life, it must be noted that Lucretius' arguments against "religion" are not arguments against the existence of gods necessarily since he seems to aim more on the people than the gods and how they perceive causes for natural phenomenon. Critical editions of Lucretius like the Loeb Classical Library has a more accurate translation than Oxford World's Classics and includes the Latin parallel texts.
In the footnotes from the Loeb Classical Library Latin-English edition it is clear that the words translated as "religion", in this Oxford World's Classics, such as "religio", that Lucretius was really talking about superstition and false religion rather than "religion" itself since Epicureans did not deny religion. In fact, Lactantius in his "Divine Institutes" references Lucretius metaphorical association of "religio" with "religare". Epicureans like Lucretius also did not deny the existence of gods necessarily, they simply denied that gods interacted with humanity and the world. Book 6.68-79 shows how he was not opposed to true religion. Generally his arguments are against those who appeal to the supernatural as holistic explanations of phenomena in nature. His atomistic views help him explain the universe from a purely naturalistic perspective where the universe is autonomous, self sustainable, and infinite without direct intervention by gods. This view is similar to Pliny the Elder's view of nature even though Pliny seems to incline towards beliefs in gods every once in a while. Pliny was an ancient who wrote a work called "Natural History" and gives insight to ancient natural philosophy (science) and was used widely by medieval scientists like numerous Christians. For those interested in Epicurean philosophy, his writings, and fragments, from which Lucretius generally builds on, please read
The Essential Epicurus: Letters, Principal Doctrines, Vatican Sayings, and Fragments (Great Books in Philosophy). It is interesting to note, that Epicurus, who inspired part of Lucretius' views, did believe in the existence of the gods and an infinite universe, but did not like it when people used an exclusive supernatural explanation, when normal reasons could be given to elucidate a physical event too.
Here are some things that he mentions in his work and believes (there is more he mentions than what I mention):
Book 1
Atoms are primal elements of things; he believes religion is "a crushing burden" on human life; he believes religion has resulted in "criminal" deeds - one example is provided; things come into being without the aid of the gods; nothing comes from nothing; nature resolves everything to their elements, never to nothing; multiple examples of different combinations of atoms in nature are provided; all things are porous with bodies and void - example things with same volume have different masses; collision of 2 moving bodies ; all nature consists of 2 things: elementary bodies and voids that are both independent and unmixed with each other; where there is matter there is no void and vice versa; erroneous philosophies such as of those who think the universe consists of fire alone or Anaxagoras' "Homeomeria" where wholes are made up of homogeneous identical parts (example: earth is made up of little earths and flesh is made up of little fleshes) are addressed; the universe has no boundaries; atoms did not get placed to form order by design, but instead were placed by multiple random interactions for ages; objections are raised to the theory that all things head to the center of the earth
Book 2
Movements and causes of movements of atoms; he thinks men err in assuming gods ordered all things for the sake of mankind; another cause of motion of atoms is free will; atoms have different shapes and textures and the varieties are finite, however the numbers of atoms is infinite; atoms have no color, smell, sound, moisture, heat or feelings; explanation for the existence of the senses in creatures which are all made of atoms; death disperses atoms and then they reunite; the universe has many other worlds and they are all made by atoms not by gods
Book 3
Mind and spirit are discussed; the mind is made of atoms; some stuff on the senses; mind and spirit are finite mortal substances; if mind and spirit split form the body the person is dead; spirit is divided throughout the body; multiple problems emerge for those who believe the mind to be immortal (examples of problems are given); a case against reincarnation and why it is absurd; death is ultimately nothing to be feared
Book 4
Discourse on mirrors and images; how images travel; how sight functions; our eyes don't like bright objects; why we can see dark things; the concept of truth comes from the senses; the senses cannot be refuted; all 5 senses cannot refute other senses since their domains are separate in type and quality of what they sense; the nature and explanation of sounds; nature of smells and taste are discussed; memory faints in sleep; sleep and our spirits; on dreams; male sexual arousal; on women; love and romance; avoiding love; how women behave with men; gods, by their will or decree, are not the ones preventing men from producing offspring, it's men's sperm or "seed" that prevents men from reproducing; what women at that time did to prevent themselves from getting pregnant
Book 5
Attempts to explain the creation of the world to creation of creatures to the fear of gods in man; you cannot believe the dwelling of the gods to be in this world; not much can be said of the nature of the gods since they are beyond our senses; how would the gods have come up with a plan for creation?; earth and air are finite; objections raised to those who believe in the immortality of the earth and the interpretation that the gods have made an infinite creation; Democritus' opinion on the traveling of heavenly bodies; the light of the moon is from the sun's rays or the it has it's own light; phases of the moon; animals are created from earth (earth is the matter of all creatures); extinctions of creatures; creatures of double natures like Centaurs could never have existed; primitive man to men of language; fire came to man by lightning; where reverence for the gods emerged among nations; comments on worship of gods and people's beliefs in the overseeing governance of the gods; how metals were first found; usage and value of metals; usage of animals in battles; one universe many worlds; from painted garments to cloth - how women got the job; the world was not made by the gods, but by atoms; development of man to civilization
Book 6
All realms of the universe are mortal (heavens, earth); ignorance of some who are educated about the gods; explaining lightning and thunderstorms; reason for not believing that Jupiter and the gods are directing thunderbolts - they never aim at criminals or guilty people who deserve to get bolted along with other reasons; causes of earthquakes - 2 cases: Sidon in Syria and Aegeum in Palponnese; many things have purely natural origins, not supernatural origins; the gods are not below the earth; atoms manifest in multiple fashions; discourse on...
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