364 of 373 people found the following review helpful
on June 25, 2010
I have to admit I was more than a bit skeptical about the NcStar ultimate sighting system. Espcailly after reading some other on line reviews. Reviews of the product tend to be polar opposites. Either folks like it or hate it...not much in between. So, before ordering I called NcStar directly to see how difficult it is to get a person on the phone...I'm happy to report that my call was promptly answered by a human and I was connected to a Tech Support Rep who was extremely knowledgeable and assured me that if anything wasn't up to my standards they would repair, replace or refund my money, no questions asked. So I purchased the system knowing full well that it's NOT an ACOG. But at 1/10th the price I think it's a pretty good optics package. First and foremost - the scope works as advertised. The Mark III optics quality is really quite good. The mil dot recital is sharp and crisp. Overall the Mark III is easily on par with some much more expensive scopes. My favorite feature is the quick release system. It works really well (once properly adjusted - more on that later). After mounting on my flat top Stag Model 8, I sighted the scope at 100 yards. After getting a good zero, I was shooting one and ¾ inch groups. I dismounted the scope repositioned and it held its' zero just fine. My only "very small" complaint is, to adjust elevation; you have to unscrew the cap to access the internal adjustment, since turning the knob only actuates the bullet drop compensator. Not a big deal. Now it's zeroed, I don't expect I'll take the cap off again. The internal illumination also works as advertised. It's nice but really unnecessary. The scope pulls in plenty of light without turning on the illumination. I don't see using the feature much if any. Eye relief is advertised to be 3 inches. I found that 2 inches was what I was getting. Not great but still adequate. I experimented moving the scope back and forth on the rail until I found a comfortable "sweet spot" and shooting position. As for the second half of the system, The red dot, which mounts to the scope, I'd rate it fair to good and that's why I give the "system" 4 stars instead of 5. I sighted it in for 25 yards and it works well, but the dot is not as crisp as I'd like and the optics opening is a bit small...Even so, it is still quite functional for getting the rifle quickly pointed at a silhouette sized target.
Since the Mark III has been bashed for hardware not being secure in other reviews I was interested to see if I had any similar issues. The answer is YES. Some of the mounting screws needed to be tightened. Not a big deal at all. A couple of Allen wrenches and some purple loctite and all the hardware is perfectly secure and won't back off. In conjunction with tightening everything down correctly, I also properly adjusted the quick release system for my rail and the weaver rings for the red dot. I suppose the factory could do a better job with the hardware, but I would spend the time tweaking to match my system anyway. With 5 minutes of my time, the mounting hardware and quick release system worked as advertised.
Overall I'd give the scope 5 stars and the red dot 3 ½. Would I drop it from the turret of a MRAP and expect it come out unscathed?...No probably not. But for $180 bucks I really am impressed and think the NcStar Ultimate Sighting System is an extremely good value.
270 of 279 people found the following review helpful
on December 7, 2012
First I wanted to state that I am experienced in almost 10 years of military service serving in four countries and eight years of federal law enforcement. I have used an assortment of from top models as Aimpoint, ACOG, etc. I am an owner of two ACOGs. Yet now I have switched both my primary M-4/AR-15s over to the NcStar Mark III. The NcStar exceeded expectations greatly especially when compared to its price of $139.70 on sale.
Pros- The site has two primary pieces, the scope itself and a small site window mounted on top for close range such as room clearing which is where the typical ACOG falls short even at $800 to $1500. The Ncstar lower scope was easy to zero utilizing the windage and the elevation adjust that is located under the cap. Once adjusted the exterior knobs are quick to use and lock in when you hit the desired settings based on target distance. There is a knob in the rear permitting quick zoom. On the left side another knob adjusts the color of the crosshairs to include red, green, and black. The close range upper sight window is also fairy easy to adjust. There is also a nice feature of a quick release for mounting on the rails. Should you have backup iron sites and need to ditch the scope, it is really quick and easy.
Cons- I am not a big fan of batteries such as is needed for the upper sight. But when compared to running out of ammo, I guess it is not much different. Just carry more batteries.Additionally the scope does feel like an item made at $200 except for the adjustment knobs do feel of quality. I did need to tighten some of the screws and move the upper sight a little.
I do recommend this scope and now own two. Please like this post if it helped out.
209 of 215 people found the following review helpful
on January 19, 2011
I'm not much for writing reviews, but after reading so many mixed reviews on NcStar products, I felt the need to share my views. The MK III P4 Scope and Red Dot package is the first scope I have purchased from NcStar. Having already purchased some flashlights and other products from NcStar and being very satisfied, I decided to give it a shot. I've been shopping with Amazon for years, and had full faith that if this product did not satisfy me, they would work to make it right. Luckily, I didn't have to rely on that, as this product is exactly what I was hoping for. I couldn't be more pleased with my purchase. I'm sick of reading bad reviews for products that have no consideration for cost. I rate products based on the quality of the item vs. the price. Keep in mind that this is NOT a $1000 ACOG, and the consumer would be foolish to expect that. For the price, this piece can not be beat.
The scope arrived a day early, in perfect packaging. It came with 2 spare batteries and an allen key for adjusting. The scope comes with strapped lens covers, and the red dot sight has a plastic cap which covers the entire assembly. The scope has some weight to it, much more solid than I had expected. It is all metal construction, and the quick release mount appears to be machined very tightly, which had led to a solid, secure fit on the rail. I had read some other reviews about the reticles being off-axis. This is not the case with my scope. The crosshairs are aligned perfectly. The switch for the illuminated reticle clicks positively and has a good solid feel to it. Both the red and green lights work properly on all three brightness settings. Optics appear to be of good quality at any range. The focus adjustment is smooth and tight, and the clarity of the image is better than I expected. Both the elevation and windage adjustments have a good solid click. This scope was out of the box, mounted and bore sighted within 10 minutes.
The Red Dot sight came mounted on the scope. The optics are sharp, the dot is crisp. The red dot sight was less impressive than the scope, but still right for the price. The switch for the sight is a very small sliding toggle. While the switch has a good, positve contact feel, the lever seems undersized for the amount of protrusion. In other words, it feels too thin and sticks out to far. While this makes it easy to switch on and off, it feels like a heavy thumb or minor bump on the switch would break it off. There was one other problem with the red dot out of the box, which was easily taken care of. The elevation of the dot was so far off it could not be adjusted enough. I mean way off- the dot was about 10 feet off bore sight at 25 yards. This was fixed simply by removing the sight and reseating the ring. After putting about 10 rounds down range and adjusting, I was driving tacks at 50 yards. After about 200 rounds, the scope is still holding dead center, and all of the illumination features are still working perfectly. All in all, I could not be happier with this purchase. I would buy another in a heartbeat, and would reccommend it to any shooter looking for an economical aiming solution. On a side note, for this price, you cant go wrong. As I said earlier, I have full faith that Amazon would make right any problem you might have with your purchase. I would be happy to answer any questions about this product that I can in the comments section.
82 of 89 people found the following review helpful
on January 9, 2011
Got this for my Rock River Arms M4 and glad I did! This is a very sweet scope! I love it. Mounted it on a short riser and it looks great on the weapon and function is fantastic. Quite heavy for what I expected. Bore laser sighted it first then used a Marine sighting target and zeroed it in with about 10 rounds. Love the sniper reticle! I have had it a few months with no problems and I shoot a lot. I shoot mostly 62gr 5.56 and the drop compensator works just fine with them at 200 yds. NC Star seems to make some very fine accessories these days.
The dealer shipped it very fast and it was very well packed.
49 of 55 people found the following review helpful
on December 9, 2010
I'll make this simple and to the point:
-Easy quick release system
-Looks great on an AR
-Unique scope with Red Dot attachment
-Reticle is too thick; great for shooting large targets at 50 yards, 100 yards is a struggle to hit bull
-Couldn't get red dot zeroed at all; lots of sunburst in lower light and eye relief is bad
-No point to illuminated reticle
-No point to BDC as you won't be able to see your target past 100 yards, plus the fat reticle will cover the target
Final notes: This is good entry level scope, but avid shooters will want something better. Do yourself a favor and pick up a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 for under $200 and be happier. I sold mine after 3 months of ownership.
23 of 27 people found the following review helpful
on May 17, 2012
Bottom line up front: Great scope package concept, Great 3X9 Sniper Scope, great Amazon and NcStar customer service but a bad red dot site that does not zero under 100 yards!
I purchased the Mark III P4 Sniper scope because would give me the capability of making distance shots with the 3X9X42 sniper scope as well as close in shots where a larger field of vision is required using the red dot scope. I have it mounted to a flat top Bushmaster AR-15 The 3X9 scope zeroed in at 100 yards very well with only a few three round grouping shots. I am not an expert marksman by any means and my group pattern was about 2.5 inches. So far with about 100 rounds with this scope it has held the zero very well. However, when I attempted to zero the integrated red dot sight at 25 yards I could not adjust the elevation far enough to put the shots on target (all in the dirt)! The adjustment was not sufficient to allow a 25 yard zero. I could also not zero at 50 yards. Heck, I could not even get a shot parallel to the barrel at 50 yards (red dot sits 3" above the barrel on my flat top AR and the best I could get was 6 "). Beyond 50 yards, I would not use the red dot but the main sniper scope. I packaged the scope up and sent it back. Amazon sent me out a replacement scope the next day. I got the new scope in less than a week from the day I initiated the return. Kudos to Amazon! I received my new scope and went to the range to zero. Much to my surprise, it exhibited the same properties as the first scope. This time I called NcStar and spoke with a customer service representative. It was a long conversation. The end result was that I found out that they knew of this problem and had already initiated a design change to the factory. As of this date, May 17, 2012, it may be a month or more before the changes get put into the new red dot to allow a greater adjustment range to allow the red dot to be zeroed for close in shots of 25 to 50 yards. I like the 3X9 scope. I like having the integrated red dot. I just want it to work. They have a life time warranty and told me that I should call back in a few weeks and they would exchange the red dot for the new design. If they fix the design, it is well worth the money!!!!
19 of 22 people found the following review helpful
on January 2, 2012
Mark III Tactical P4 Sniper 3-9X42/Scope Adaptor Mount/Red Dot Combo Package
I read all the reviews on this scope before buying it. There are several negative reviews, primarily because people don't read the instructions. If you read the instructions, it mounts beautifully (doesn't 'cant to the right' or 'cant to the left'). If you read the instructions you won't strip out the adjustment screws. If you read the instructions you'll find the adjustment for elevation. In short .... read the instructions. When the scope arrived the packaging was of very high quality. The scope arrived with a couple of extra batteries for the Red Dot (a nice touch). Note that if you have folding iron sights on a flattop AR you might have to remove the rear sight but with this scope you won't need it. The Red Dot makes rapid target acquisition easier than the iron sights anyway. This scope does everything it's supposed to do. This scope is unbeatable for the money. If you want a higher-priced scope with more features, then spend more money
13 of 15 people found the following review helpful
on October 10, 2011
I've purchased this as my 2nd NC Star tactical red-dot. I was at first a little diappointed with the first one, because I couldn't get a logical/legitimate sight picture with the holographic, that is until I talked with a SF friend that uses this type of scope regularly. The holographic sits too high to get a good position on the butt stock, and it just won't acquire the target at a good point in the field of view. Here's the solution.......Rotate the holographic sight 45 degrees to the right (left, if a left handed shooter) to enable the rifle to fit the cheek weld on long-range shooting, and rock the rifle 45 degrees to the left (right if shooting left handed) and acquire the short-range target (<30 yards) in the holographic. This is a great quality scope, and I've in-fact recommended it to several of my shooter friends.
19 of 23 people found the following review helpful
on October 25, 2011
Received scope 2 days earlier than i thought. Opened perfectly packed scope and was very happy with the quality of product out of the box. red dot is crisp and scope is better than i could have hoped for. Put 100 rounds out of my Ar15 and had no issues . Veryyy happy with this unit and for the price can not beat it. Amazon was awesome once again.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
on January 3, 2013
I intentionally waited until I had an opportunity to use this scope several times before I wrote a review because I had read such mixed reviews about it, and my verdict is that this thing is awesome. After getting this I quickly did a bore sight in my living room. This was mounted on to my Del-ton Echo 316 flat top carbine. In a lot of reviews a lot of people complained about the difficulty in getting the quick disconnect to work correctly. That completely baffles me because the instructions are very clear in the adjustment and mount of the quick disconnect system. The red dot was a little tricky at first, but I removed the red dot and mount and remounted it and used 4 shims I made out of an aluminum soda can and it got me to my mark.
When I got to the range and mounted the scope I was automatically on paper at 25 yards though high and right. The 1/2 MOA adjustments got me one target in 9 shots. The clicks are audible and feel able while I was wearing cotton gloves. I then took the scope out to 50 yards which required a few more adjustments, and finally to 100 yards. No adjustment was required from 50 to 100 yards with the ammunition I was using.
I then went to adjusting my red dot and it was actually spot on at 20-25 yards with my bore sight. I guess I got lucky. The dot was a little difficult to see shooting outside in the snow in midday sun. A little difficult, but not impossible, it still was visible and usable. When you are adjusting the red dot be sure to loosen the set screws or you will ruin your red dot. This is all outlined in the instructions
The scope is very clear and light transmission is great. Adjusting the magnification is a little difficult with the red dot on top and is my least favorite part about the scope, but the combination is awesome and it's not impossible, nor is it a deal breaker. The illumination sounds like a nice feature, but it is actually unnecessary. At night, if you turn on the illumination it actually drowns out the scope so you cant see well, and during the day it's unnecessary unless you like the red or green reticle better. The only time I can imagine the illumination would be useful is when shooting in to daylight from a dark, covered position, or if shooting against a large dark target. The eye relief could be a little better, and you will want to mount this as far back on your rail as possible. I set mine at T10 because of my back up iron sight. I use a Magpul Gen 2 buis that fits PERFECTLY beneath this scope. Folded it sits at .51 inches, so any BUIS with that measurement should fit beneath.
After day 1, I removed the scope and took the gun home. In opening the case the scope actually fell on to the floor, which is actually a good thing that I wanted to test. I went back to the range the next day and remounted the scope, which is so easy and fast with the quick disconnect lever. Fire a shot at 50 yards. Dead on. Fired a shot a 100 yards. Dead on. Fired a shot at 25 yards with the red dot, dead on. In 2 days I fired about 200 rounds through it and it held true through all of it. My only regret is that I didn't get a chance to try out the Bullet Drop Compensator, but with what this scope has shown me, I have no doubt it will function flawlessly. I did change the BDC to different ranges then back to 100 and the zero remained.
I would recommend this to anyone with a flat top AR15, but not to someone with a carry handle mount. While the scope should still work, the red dot will not as it will be too high over the bore to be able to adjust down. If you have a carry handle, save your self a little money and just buy the Mark III tactical scope by itself.
This is a great scope at a great price and I feel like everyone should know it. A lot of die hards out there feel like only leupolds or Burris can make good scope, and while it is obvious that they do make great scopes, they are extremely over priced because of the name. This here is a quality scope at a competitive price that deserves a fair chance.