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16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Finally an explanation of how to make a profit on the Web
I read this book pretty much cover-to-cover and found it very thought provoking. It does a great job of explaining the opportunities in creating "Virtual Communities". Virtual communities are described as areas where a group of users sharing common interests gather to learn about and discuss information. These communities create an information source that...
Published on April 23, 1998 by Joshua Silver (jsilver@revlis.com)

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30 of 34 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Straight Line Depreciation, from Five Stars to Two.
This book was probably five stars when it was published - in 1997. However, too much has changed since then, obviously through no fault of the authors. I knew I was in trouble when the authors raved about Motley Fool and asked "can online trading be far behind?" Save your money.
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30 of 34 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Straight Line Depreciation, from Five Stars to Two., June 16, 2000
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This book was probably five stars when it was published - in 1997. However, too much has changed since then, obviously through no fault of the authors. I knew I was in trouble when the authors raved about Motley Fool and asked "can online trading be far behind?" Save your money.
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16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Finally an explanation of how to make a profit on the Web, April 23, 1998
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I read this book pretty much cover-to-cover and found it very thought provoking. It does a great job of explaining the opportunities in creating "Virtual Communities". Virtual communities are described as areas where a group of users sharing common interests gather to learn about and discuss information. These communities create an information source that shifts power from the vendors to the customers. Longer term, vendors can capitalize on this community by selling directly to the community members, and more importantly by using the customer interaction to create word-of-mouth advertising. Who are you more likely to trust: another user of the product or some sleazy salesman?

Up until this book, I have seen little written on the longer term business models on how to make money by aggregating users. This book will explain the rationale of why there is enormous value in web sites with a large base of users.

The book has a very interesting chart which describes the return on various strategic investments for a startup trying to build a virtual community. The conclusion was that far and away the most important investments were vendor acquisition (i.e. companies wanting to sell products to the members of the community), member-generated content, and member acquisition. Interestingly, usage fees for the site had an enormous long-term negative impact for the site (despite their short term ability to generate revenue).

There are a couple of points that I think were not well addressed in this book:

1) I don't believe that the authors make a compelling argument about how to sell the first vendors on the advantages of being a part of the virtual community. From my experience, vendors don't sign up for a new product or service because "that's where the market is going". They need to be convinced that there's an advantage for them to be first, and that reason was not adequately described in the book.

2) The book states the importance of member-generated content as a way to build up the community and keep traffic coming to the site. It was never clear to me from the book how to do this through a commercially sponsored newsgroup versus the already existing Usenet newsgroups today (which already have a pre-existing and active community). For instance, there are already many Usenet newsgroups related to Travel. Why should potential travelers use a commercially sponsored site instead of a Usenet group? Clearly there are sites that have been successful at creating their own newsgroup areas so I believe that there are justifiable reasons. I'm just not sure what those reasons are and the book didn't explain them.

Overall, an interesting book and well worth your time.

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12 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Realistic and specific, within the usual limits, December 8, 1999
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The thing I really like about this book is the specifics. You find much more substance--including dollar amounts--in this book than you do in many e-biz books, even with the usual dollop of rah-rah. Several chapters are very helpful in making the business case for online communities, and in uncovering success/failure factors for this approach. I can't say that Hagel and Armstrong have it *all* right, but this is book will be one you refer back to on a regular basis. The management agenda in the appendix is a nice touch, as well.
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12 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Worth the time reading with practical application, April 27, 1998
This review is from: Net Gain: Expanding Markets Through Virtual Communities (Hardcover)
According to Hagel and Armstrong, virtual communities that combine content and communication can expand market opportunities, and those who form these online communities will experience commercial success. Throughout the book, the authors stressed that those organizations who wait will lose out. However, the emphasis of the book is not about making money; rather it's about forming communities, collecting information on members' preferences, interests, etc., and using that information to meet their needs.

In my opinion, two of the most useful components of the book are a listing of personnel required for the implementation and maintenance of an online community, and steps needed to help managers get started in organizing a virtual community. The book is certainly worth reading, whether you are developing websites for business, education, recreation, etc. Hagel and Armstrong present valid reasons and practical suggestions for developing online communities that will help members connect, as well as seek and find.

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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars An easy to read and practical vision, December 28, 1999
This review is from: Net Gain: Expanding Markets Through Virtual Communities (Hardcover)
A book which has been at the basis of our company. The book gives a clear vision on the futur of the Internet, especially on the commercial part of it. How to create a place on the Internet which your target group visits, where they talk about your products and services and where you can give them (and thereby your own company) added value. In other words: a Virtual Community.
The book also explains how to manege such a community. By builing it up little by little and by letting go at the same time, so that members will over time derive great value from member-generated content.
And best of all: the lay-out of the book ensures easy reading and fast skimming throught the book.
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10 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Virtual Communities = Real Prosperity, March 4, 2002
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Hagel has co-authored two especially important books (with Arthur G. Armstrong III and Marc Singer, respectively), the other being Net Worth "which builds on a number of the themes originally developed" in this volume. As Hagel and Armstrong point out, Net.Gain "systematically [analyzes] the economic drivers for value creation that exist on networks. It [uses] one particular business model -- the virtual community -- to illustrate the unique capabilities of digital networks and how these might be harnessed to create a substantial business with very attractive economics." The material is carefully organized within three Parts: The Real Value of Virtual Communities, Building a Virtual Community, and Positioning to Win the Broader Game. Hagel and Armstrong also provide a "Management Agenda", followed by excellent suggestions for further reading.

In the Preface, Hagel and Armstrong acknowledge three inevitable limitations in writing Net.Gain: "The first arises from the profound uncertainties associated with evolving electronic networks and the myriad business models emerging in the primordial brew known as cycberspace....Second, the need to be concise has led us to make some generalizations about the likely evolution of virtual communities and the key principles for success....Third, we do not expect virtual communities to be the only 'form of life' on public networks. Indeed, many other commercial and non-commercial formats (including dictionaries, market spaces, 'web'zines,' corporate sites and game areas) will thrive on these networks as well." Working within these limitations, Hagel and Armstrong succeed admirably when describing the power and potential of the virtual community concept. Also, when explaining (a) how to target the kind of community to start-up; (b) the principles of a successful entry strategy, emphasizing the need to generate, engage, and lock in traffic over time; (c) characteristics of community organizations; and (d) criteria by which to select the right technology. Then in Part Three, Hagel and Armstrong shift their attention to explaining the fundamental ways in which the emergence and spread of virtual communities will alter traditional business.

My strong recommendation is that this book be read first, then Net Worth. My further recommendation is that both books be used to formulate the agenda for a workshop or what is generally referred to as an "executive retreat" (preferably for two days and located offsite) with all participants required to read both books in advance. In their Epilogue, Hagel and Armstrong suggest that "the most radical potential impact of the virtual community may well be its impact on the way individuals manage their lives and companies manage themselves. Communities will serve to connect, much like the postage system and telephone before them. But they will go several steps further than the telephone or fax, as they help the individual to seek out and find. Souls in search of relationship, colleagues in search of teamwork,, customers in search of products, suppliers in search of markets: the virtual community might have a place for them after all." Those who share my high regard for Hagel's two books (co-authored with Armstrong and Singer, respectively) are urged to check out Peter Senge's The Fifth Discipline as well as O'Dell and Grayson's If Only We Knew What We Know. Both can also help with the planning and implementing of the off-site workshop recommended earlier.

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11 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Marketing comes to place, but marketing is a challenge, December 1, 1999
This review is from: Net Gain: Expanding Markets Through Virtual Communities (Hardcover)
Many networked industry managers probably still do not know what they are doing, and this book points them to a clear direction¡XVirtual Communities. Contrary to the concept that the internet industry belongs to the high-tech sector, this book tells us the opposite. In other words, doing business in the vast ocean of the cyberspace cannot count on technology alone, because what is really important here is not how good your R&D ability is but how good your marketing ability is.

This, in my opinion, tells almost everything. When the Internet was still in its infancy, technical research and development should be done to improve its function, but when it comes to commercialization, things become much more different, and complex. What we must deal with now is not only some computer languages or a set of codes, but also people without clear identities from places we cannot know all. From this point of view, nobody can claim a share only because they are technically competent. Marketing becomes crucial, however, marketing is a great challenge itself.

From this perspective, this book is helpful in that it explains why managing virtual communities is crucial to any internet companies, gives good ideas as to how to come close to the desired targets and achieve market shares step by step, and backs up the writer¡¦s argument with economical theories and examples taken from experienced companies.

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8 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars want to know about virtual communities? This is a must read!, January 16, 2000
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If you want to know how to create a virtual community this book cannot lack in your shelf. This is the first book that deals with the matter in a way it really ripens. The authors defend the thesis that you need to do three things: To generate the traffic, to concentrate the traffic and later to maintain the traffic of visits to your community. This book is for who is really working with a digital business or wants to set up one. Besides discussing each one of these steps, it finishes with a list of what to do for the management of a project. A must read!
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8 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars I cannot recommend this book enough, December 1, 1999
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If your objective is to gain a solid understanding of why and how the Internet has become what it is today then this is the text for you. In clear terms it explains the key components of a successful Web venture (commercial or otherwise) through the identification of browsers aggregating towards communities. That growth on the Net is not subject to marketing gurus or advertising execs but rather through an organic evolution. Sounds a bit esoteric? Not at all, the real benefit of this book is that it breaks down each statement and supposition into clear, defined terms that can be verified through real-life examples, examples which the reader can investigate on the Net for themselves (hey, you learn by doing!). There is a very useful section on the lifecycle of a Web community and how to create one. It stresses quick entry onto the Web and gives clear advice on what the entrant should aim for at each stage of the creation of their 'community'. Best of all, through what the authours call 'Fractal Breadth' it lays out how a 'community' can expand and branch out. The Final sections of the book are especially useful in that they outline how a traditional company's infrastructure should change to accommadate a Web presence. Clear, conscise, non-insulting to the intellect and focused. Great value for money.
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7 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Good Ideas that can hold in 10 pages, October 16, 2000
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Excellent ideas on Internet marketing and business strategies but did not need to write a book, ten pages would have been enough. Read a well condensed summary is less time consuming for the same amount of great information provided by the author.
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