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~ (Author), William Forstchen (Author), (Editor) "Capt. Phil Duvall of the Third Virginia Cavalry, Fitz Lee's Brigade, Army of Northern Virginia, raced up the steps of the Carlistle Barracks, taking them..." (more)
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The former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives and his historian coauthor conclude their best-selling trilogy offering an alternate history of the Civil War. As was true of its predecessors, this is a swiftly paced and authentically grounded novel; this installment covers the end of the terrible North-South strife. In the previous volumes in the trilogy, Gettysburg (2003) and Grant Comes East (2004), the authors invented an alternative to how the Battle of Gettysburg was fought and won (in their version, the South won that battle) and offered a plausible consequence of the Confederate victory: namely, an advance on Washington, D.C. Now, the authors move up Lee's actual April 1865 surrender to August 1863 and, in the process, create quite realistic and creative actions and movements for each side leading up to the war's blessed end--with Lee realizing the futility of further Southern persistence. Again, as in the previous volumes in the trilogy, the authors' research is impeccable, and their presentation brings events down to a personal level, and, as in any good alternate vision of history, the reader is left believing it could really have happened this way. Brad Hooper
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“Could the South have won the Civil War? Gingrich and Forstchen continue to explore this question in the second volume of the alternate history they began with Gettysburg. Bits of fife and drum music add a military flavor to the production. Boyd Gaines reads with an intensity that sets the heart racing as hard as that of any soldier marching into battle...It’s truly a remarkable performance. Winner of AudioFile Earphones Award.”— AudioFile

“Character depictions are vivid, detailed, and insightful. One of the best novels of the Civil War to appear in recent years.” —Publishers Weekly (starred)
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Product Details

  • Hardcover: 512 pages
  • Publisher: Thomas Dunne Books; First edition (May 26, 2005)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0312342985
  • ISBN-13: 978-0312342982
  • Product Dimensions: 9.3 x 6.2 x 1.7 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 2 pounds
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (65 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #264,964 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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47 of 53 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Gingrich and Forstchen finish their reconstructed Civil War, June 3, 2005
By Lawrance M. Bernabo (The Zenith City, Duluth, Minnesota) - See all my reviews
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I was halfway through "Gettysburg," the first novel in this series by Newt Gingrich and William R. Forstchen before I realized that I was reading an alternative history akin to "Guns of the South" than a historical novel in the mode of "The Killer Angels" (this is what happens when you make a point of ignoring reviews and discarding book jackets before reading books you really want to read). However, once I caught on to the game I was along for the ride, not only because I appreciate the idea of fighting new battles on different battlefield, but also because I correctly anticipated the end game that the authors were maneuvering towards in this engrossing trilogy.

The series is now up to August 22, 1863. The Army of Northern Virginia under the command of Robert E. Lee has virtually annihilated the Army of the Potomac through a series of battles at Gettysburg, Union Mills, and Gunpowder River. The Confederates unsuccessfully attacked Washington, D.C., but have succeeded in capturing Baltimore, Maryland. Ulysses S. Grant, placed in command of all Union forces by President Abraham Lincoln, is moving with the Army of the Susquehanna, comprised of corps of troops from the Western front that are used to winning against the Rebels, is moving for the final engagement with Lee on the banks of the Monocacy River.

I have a Civil War computer game where I could create battlefields and have played out engagements between the armies that met at Gettysburg on the geographies of Albuquerque, New Mexico and Duluth, Minnesota. So I can appreciate how Gingrich and Forstchen have traveled around Maryland and the surrounding environs to find their own new battlefields for these novels. The rough drawn maps included in the book are slightly problematic because if there is one thing we learned from studying the Battles of Gettysburg in any detail it is the importance of topography. Knowing the layout of the land at Antietam, Fredericksburg or any other battlefield of the Civil War is an important part of understanding how such battles were won or, more usually, lost.

The key factor to an alternative history such as this one remains have the characters ring true. Lee continues to take advantage of the tendencies of his opponents and Grant refuses to back off not matter what the body count. Dan Sickels is still an arrogant amateur and George Armstrong Custer is always looking for glory. George Pickett remains an example of style over substance, while Jeb Stuart proves you can have both. Pete Longstreet will always want to be safe rather than sorry and Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain will always be concerned with personal honor. All of this is important to making such a story work. The locations change but the people remain true, which is ultimately why such stories work (or do not, although having Lincoln and/or Lee as characters is always going to be a plus in any fictional work).

Still, no matter how far off the beaten path an alternative history such as this series might go, there is still an impulse to take familiar moments from what really happened and work them into the ongoing narrative (e.g., what makes Grant's migraine go away). But there is a limited amount of this, most notably for the most causal student of American history in the book's final half-sentence, so that it does not become intrusive. I do have a personal complaint in that Gingrich and Forstchen followed history in killing off the one figure (I should say, military figure) I most would have liked to have seen survive this time around, even though I specifically begged them not to, but they do create an emotional resolution to this version that is rather compelling.

Those who dismiss this series as an attempt to rewrite history as a paean to the glorious cause for readers who are unrepentant and unReconstructed sons of the Confederacy have totally missed the point. The myth, articulated best by William Faulkner but extant long before his birth and potent to this day below the Mason-Dixon line, has been that if Pickett's Charge had succeeded or if by some other means Lee had won the Battle of Gettysburg he could have taken Washington, D.C. and ended the war with the Confederacy victorious. Although they found a plausible way for Lee to avoid defeat at Gettysburg, Gingrich and Forstchen proved that was not the case well before we got to this final book in the trilogy. The calculus of the Civil War, once articulated so succinctly by Rhett Butler, remains the same in these three books. Even so, there is an element of suspense here because we never really believe that the dice are loaded. After all, that is Robert E. Lee and the grim gray wolves of the Armies of Northern Virginia that Grant is facing.

The intent of this trilogy as clearly revealed by the final chapters of "Never Call Retreat" proves to be exactly what I anticipated it to be based on both my reading of the first two books and my own critique of the bloody mess that Reconstruction proved to be in the hands of the Radical Republicans following Lincoln's assassination. The fact that all three books take place in 1863 and that whatever the outcome the Civil War would be pushed forward a year-and-a-half is instructive as well with regards to what is really going on here. If anything, my only real disappointment with "Never Call Retreat" is that the alternative America is wants to create is really only sketched out at the end and I was expecting more than the idea that if going "B" instead of "A" avoids the problems of the hundred years following the Civil War. Then again, perhaps that is the ultimate irony here. Even in an alternative history winning the war proves to be far easier than winning the peace. The key thing to remember is that the latter war continues to this day.
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16 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars An excellent end to a great series!, June 13, 2005
By James W. Durney (Tampa Bay area) - See all my reviews
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This is a great alternate history of the Civil War that has captured the characters "warts and all". In place of images, we have flesh and blood people trying to win and willing to pay the price of victory. It is not possible to consider this as a stand-alone book but as the finial story in the epic summer of 1863. "Gettysburg" is the alternate history that planted the Army of Northern Virginia firmly in Pennsylvania. "Grant Comes East", is the logical continuation as the CSA tries to capitalize on its' greatest victory. Battles are an integral part of both books but political considerations consume much of our attention. Double-dealing, backstabbing, jockeying for advantage and the secret agendas of Stanton and Sickles cause Lincoln problems, just as Davis is second guessing Lee, every step of the way.

This book is the end of the war. Both sides have paid a very high price to keep Lee and Grant in the field. In spite of setbacks and numerous problems, both men know they must win the war not next year but now. The South has no more resources and the North has seen to many defeats. While the authors remind us that Tennessee is an important front, the war is here in the East.

Civil War armies were hard to destroy. No one battle was going to keep the men from rallying at some point. In the first of the modern total wars, armies not cities are the objective. This grinding down process is captured in an entertaining and informative story. That pulls you in and ties you to it. While the outcome is not in question, the path to it is. The "path" is the story of grinding unrelenting combat. Taken from the history of the 1864 Overland Campaign, the authors give us a very real feel for both the men in the ranks and the generals in charge. We come to understand in very graphic terms what is required to destroy the other army.

One again, the more you know about the Civil War the more fun the book is. Quotes, things that happened, should have happened or that we wish had happened are worked into the story. Do the authors play with us? YES and it is great fun!

This is an excellent series and this maybe the best book. I started hating the idea of the series and ended one of the biggest fans. Sit back, relax and stay alert. This is a great ride!
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16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Great Book, June 5, 2005
By The Reviewer II (So. California) - See all my reviews
Great "what if" book. This is book 3 of a 3 part series. These books are hardly pro-Confederate. They essentially show Lee and Longstreet as honorable men, surrounded by egotistical and self-centered politicians and generals. Conversely, the portrayals of Lincoln and Grant could almost be considered hagiography, if this were not a fictional account.

The people giving this book bad reviews obviously have not read it, and they are simply giving it bad reviews because they do not like Newt Gingrich. How childish is that?

Do we have to drag partisan politics into every aspect of our lives? Grow up already.
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