New White

Subtle | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Audio CD (October 5, 2004)
• Original Release Date: 2004
• Number of Discs: 1
• Label: Lex Records
• ASIN: B0002V4X8W
• Also Available in: Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
• Average Customer Review: 4.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (7 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #274,909 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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12 of 13 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars I Heart Dose One..., October 31, 2004

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Kevin Satterwhite (Houston, TX United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: New White (Audio CD)

Six months after releasing the "Ten" album (which I feel is excellent) with Why? & Odd Nosdam under the moniker cLOUDDEAD, Dose One gets with Jel and four other dudes and releases another album worthy of your $15. Subtle's "A New White" is a great album; one that I find is more consistent throughout than previous Dose releases. What I mean by that is not necessarily that it's better than his previous work, just has a better ratio of good to bad songs.

Themselves are Dose's more conventional (though swaying from convention) hip hop group. cLOUDDEAD is Dose's more experimental hip hop (if you consider it hip hop) group. Subtle is right in the middle of both of those groups. You could consider Subtle as Themselves more experimental, or as CLOUDDEAD with more focus. One thing is I find this band to be darker than both.

"I Love L.A.", my personal favorite of the album, has some unusual production for an Anticon outfit. It is melancholy (which isn't totally unusual for Anticon), but it's beautiful all the same. It's got soft acoustic guitars, violins, beauty. This song emphasizes Doses' genius: he knows how to make any music and beat work for himself. "F.K.O." on the other hand is the most straight forward song on the album. It's has the typically great Jel beat, which Dose is well at home with. "Hand-Replacement" is another wonderfully dark song with a very melodic chorus. "Silence..." is another good song with an amazing ending. "Red, White & Blonde" is really unlike anything you've heard from Dose yet, and it works. Pitchforkmedia.com likened it to material by The Books, though I wouldn't know that reference. The rest of the songs are really good too. "She", "Meat Song", "Eyewash", they're all good. In eleven of the tracks, I found no song I didn't like. On a five star scale system, I'd likely rate every song above a four, which is something I could never do with all Themselves and cLOUDDEAD releases.

If you like cLOUDDEAD & Themselves, you'd like this. Though I wouldn't say more, because I do prefer cLOUDDEAD myself. Being a fan of Dose One is really rewarding. I mean the guy does not stop working, and his visions are fruitful. If you are one of the few people who can stand Dose One's eccentric musical nature, it's positive after postive from there. Buy this album.

5.0 out of 5 stars Subtle 6, August 19, 2010

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Natallia - See all my reviews

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This review is from: New White (Audio CD)

This album is beautiful. The artwork itself on the cover is great, and it is just as satisfying to listen to the music as to enjoy the atmosphere the Subtle 6 have tried to make. Their musical stylings are unique, their lyrics are astounding, and this album is an excellent debut.

3 of 5 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Really amazing album, June 27, 2005

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Etc "et cetera" (Los Angeles, CA) - See all my reviews

This review is from: New White (Audio CD)

I've always been into practically anything the Anticon camp puts out there, but this really stands out. I'm a big fan of Dose One's work, and in my opinion, this is the best thing that he's done yet. This has the surreal imagery that showed up on the cLOUDDEAD album Ten (which was also really great), but the production is cleaner and more visceral here. The beats and melodies morph from pretty atmospheric textures intro a driving groove and then fall into almost rock/electronic swells.

To say that this album is ahead of its time is an understatment.

The rapping/singing is in the line of Dose One's characteristic, almost stream of consciousness assault... If you've never heard him before, this album is a great introduction. His voice exudes personality... His delivery covers the whole range, and there are few other vocalists who can sound simultaneously emotional while being sarcastic and almost cartoonish. It really is something that can't be effectively described.

I have no clue what kind of genre this would fall under, but isn't that irrelevent anyway? This music combines so many diverse influences into one cohesive sound - It's hip hop, it's breakbeat, it's rock, it's ambient... it's practically everything, it's something completely different altogether, and it's always good.

I don't know what that one reviewer was talking about.... with it being overly glitch heavy, and then saying that he was gonna break out some Aphex Twin. I doubt this guy was even listening to the same album, and even if he was, at least listen to the actual record instead of some low-quality sound clips off the bleep site before you come on Amazon and spout your uninformed garbage. That guy made this album sound as though it had something in common with Venetian Snares, and that just couldn't be further from the truth (although V Snares is great as well).

Every track is solid, and the album gets better every time you hear it. You will not regret a cent you spend on this album. This album needs to be noticed, and I truly do hope that it is appreciated as a landmark. People will be listening to it slackjawed in 2025 and say "THIS was made in 2005??!?!"