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Nice Guys And Players: Becoming the Man Women Want

5 star:		(26)
4 star:		(9)
3 star:		(7)
2 star:		(4)
1 star:		(5)

 

 

Firstly this book is *very* lightweight in two respects. Its 122 pages are printed in very large type, and the writing style is juvenile. His main conceit is his use of invented personas and their stories of success and failure, all added without analysis and insight. "Ron dresses well, in casual, but smart attire and he has a good car - its a sports convertible. He works in a law firm, earns a good salary. He met Denise at a party and they hit it off. They dated for a while, but then she left him". Truly kindergarten stuff.

He focuses a great deal of the book on defining 4 types of men (which he lifted from somewhere else) and goes on about their plus points and negative points. His lack of actual content is glaringly revealed about two-thirds in when he rehashes his definition of these four types in order to pad out this meagre offering.

The focus of this book is totally on the "what" with practically nothing of insight at all on the "how". And half of the "what" points he makes are dubious to say the least.

To anyone interested, here is the complete advice that Rom gives:
1- dress smart
2- work out
3- be clean
4- read some non-fiction
5- be confident
6- be honest
7- errr that's it

I always knew I was a 'nice guy', and my relationships have always ended with the woman I love saying...'I love you, but I don't want to BE with you anymore...but we can be best friends.' I've not even finished this book yet, but seeing in print what I've know deep down all along has already given me the strength to take control of my life back from these women. It hit me like a lightning bolt. I'm a kind person at heart, and always felt like I would be 'playing games' if I didn't just do what came naturally. What I realize now is, being true to what I want, and being assertive is not a game. It's empowering, and I feel better about myself already. I will always be kind, but I'll never allow myself to be taken advantage of again!

I bought this book from the author back in September. I have to say it changed my life. Before reading this book my dating life was hit and miss with more of an emphasis on miss. I always heard that old line,"You're such a Nice Guy but..." All that changed after I bought Rom's book. He told me, "This book will change your life." So I read it and the after following Rom's advice...WOW!

In a few short months I went from a man who barely got the time of day to having very beautiful women ask me out! I've read other books on how to pick up women but the difference with Nice Guys and Players is that I found out how to draw women to me. No pick-up lines. No hypnosis. I don't have to be a jerk. With a few changes I became a babe magnet.

I e-mailed Rom Wills a couple of weeks ago to tell him about the changes. He said the following: "You're just at the beginning young apprentice. Follow my words to the letter and you get to point where you can attract women no matter what you are wearing, without spending money, and without saying a word. You must, however, follow my words to the letter. "

I thought, "Wow, I can do even better!"

I recommend this book to all men. Rom takes the luck out of the dating game and replaces it with science.

Anthony

As this book's pros, it does get the point across. Although I will continue to criticize its capacity, a large book isn't necessily better, only more in-depth. I'm not so sure that this book helped me become 'The Man Women Want' though.

Now, for the fun part. This book only has 119 pages and the print size brings me back to my days in elementary school; the print is gigantic, as large as would be acceptable, and yet the book is still the smallest one in my library. Furthermore, the author makes poor analogies and at one point even says that to believe in God is required for you to be a "real man", something I heavily disagree with.

"Think of a clear, still pool of water. Now imagine that somebody has just dived in and caused some waves. That's what it's like for a woman to be aroused.", I quote, page 92 of his book. This, along with other tid-bits along the way, made me crack up laughing. In that sense, this book was, indeed, quite entertaining, but I'm not sure thats something to brag about.

All in all, this book defines the difference between nice guys and players and explains why they get what they do, without the professional part added to it(whether you consider that good or bad).

This book runs along the same lines as the mother of all single-guy books, Jama Clark's What The Hell Do Women Really Want? Its not as detailed as Jama's book but on the plus side Rom doesn't use a sledge hammer, thinking he can somehow shock you into changing your life.

Rom also devotes space to "players" who are guys that are good with women (but not sincere, blah, blah, blah...) This may be true but I think its fair to say that guys who have the ladies lined up are not reading this book.

The deal is, once you start looking at yourself the way women do (which they deny but let's not go there) you suddenly see what's good and what's not.

Now conveying confidence when you're not confident is about as easy as looking financially well off when you're not. But at least you know where you stand and can make a plan to get better clothes, workout, whatever.

Of course these things are superficial but if you think women can detect your great personality from across a room you're mistaken. Rom's and Jama's books tell you how to create a package you can sell. Even if their techniques didn't work all you would be stuck with is a higher level of fitness, a better apprearance and the confidence that goes with them. So what's not to like?

Finally the true test of this type of book. Women will find it offensive as hell--and that's as close to the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval as you can get.

Many people miss the point of a book like Nice Guys and Players because they are looking for cheap tricks or rather an easy way to meet women. The reality is that if someone wasn't attracting women to begin with, a few lines is not going to change their luck in a few weeks. For a person to change they must change habits and conditionings ingrained in their subconscious.

I give Nice Guys and Players 5 stars because the information contained will produce a subconscious change in an individual. For example, many men want methods to develop the trait of confidence. Rom Wills in one of his chapters advises men to start businesses. Being responsible for a business and being able to succeed is a sure way to increase confidence and competence which are traits which attract women like moths. Rom also talks about physical fitness. The health and visual benefits of physical fitness are obvious, however, the subconscious benefits are even more important. For example, if a man develops himself where he can bench press three hundred pounds this represents a subconscious confidence builder. This confidence can be transferred to other areas of life.

I highly recommend this book for men who want a real change in their lives. I also recommend Rom's follow-up book, Sexual Chemistry: Nice Guys and Players Level II. Sexual Chemistry is deeper and even more esoteric but it's a must read for men serious about transforming their lives.

I'm an author of my own relationships-related book, "Mode One: Let The Women Know What You're REALLY Thinking," and I actually use one or two quotes from Rom Wills' book in my own book.

"Nice Guys and Players: Becoming The Man Women Want" breaks down the strengths and weaknesses of both the typical "nice guy," and the popular "player" types.

One of my favorite quotes from this book is, "Women want that feeling of excitement when they deal with a man. Too many men often play it safe because it seems more responsible and they think that's what women want. Women want both responsibility AND excitement." This is SO TRUE.

One more quote I love, that is also SO TRUE, is when Wills says, "Sex is really the main difference between a 'nice guy' and a 'player.' The most consistent statement by women about the 'nice guys' is that they are not good in bed. If they were good in bed, they wouldn't be nice guys. They would be called Mr. Right."

In my experience, "player" types are not always more handsome than nice guys, or have more money or better jobs than nice guys, but if there are one or two qualities "players" have that most "nice guys" don't is that 1) "players" are typically way more SELF-CONFIDENT than the average "nice guy" types; 2) "players" know how to arouse & seduce women far more effectively than "nice guy" types.

I would recommend this book to any single, heterosexual male.

This book makes you stop and think why a previous relationship failed or did not even get started. The book is not so full of techniques, but more about understanding yourself and the image that you represent to the world. It also makes you more aware of the signs that woman give you knowing or unknowing. Once you know what your images is that you represent you can change it to reflect to what you want it to say. I have great respect for Rom as even though he gives you the info needed to become a player or a user he urges you not to, but to be a real man. Follow his advice and you will be a better man. To know why people treat you the way they do first look at yourself and the image you represent to them.

I really enjoyed this book because unlike similar books this one is based on reality. Rom points out the real deal in the interactions between men and women. The reality is that women do indeed place men into select and non-select categories. The reality is that most men are in the non-select category regardless of what they think. I find it interesting that the negative reviews of "Nice Guys" seem to focus on picking up women and seduction. Nowhere in the description of the book or even in the book are these terms mentioned. Only those with a juvenile mentality would focus on seduction. The reviewer from South Africa said it best when he said it was about the image one presents to the world. Still another reviewer said it best when he basically said that tricks are for kids. The reality is that women are choose men who are winners in life. This book will turn a man into a winner.

This book has absolutly nothing of value. A bunch fluff that boils down to:
1) get a good job so that you are economically viable,
2) become as physically attractractive as you can, via the gym
or the clothing store.
3) be honest.

... Skip this title!!!