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None of Us Were Like This Before: American Soldiers and Torture Hardcover – June 14, 2010
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“Basing his work on extensive interviews, [Phillips] details how ordinary American troops participated in the torture of enemy soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.”—San Francisco Chronicle
“A masterwork of narrative nonfiction.”—Chris Lombardi, Guernica
“Phillips shows that the recourse to blaming a ‘few bad apples’ should be recognised as a disgraceful, face-saving fiction.”—David Simpson, London Review of Books
“A tour de force of investigative journalism.”—Eamonn McCann, Belfast Telegraph
“This shattering book is a journey into the heart of American darkness. What Joshua Phillips makes shockingly clear is that the misbehavior of some of our best soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan came about because of a failure of military leadership and because political leaders lacked the courage to admit the word ‘torture.’”—Richard Rodriguez, author of Brown: The Last Discovery of America
“Those who authorized torture and defend it don’t want to talk about this. They took honorable, patriotic young soldiers and convinced them to sacrifice the very principles that they had signed up to defend. That paradox is what Phillips investigates and brings to light. And he does it with the utmost respect for the soldiers.”—Huffington Post
“Phillips’ book remains the first and best heartbreaking tale not only of the abuses taking place within our military prisons, but also the negative, long term and in many cases fatal psychological affects it is having on both interrogating soldiers and interrogated enemy prisoners of war ... [An] outstanding book [and] a necessary read for all.”—Kristina Brown and Paul Sullivan, Veterans for Common Sense
“None of Us Were Like This Before is a model of conscientious reporting on a volatile subject—the torture of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers. His ethical and compassionate approach is an act of citizenship.”—Barry Lopez, author of Arctic Dreams and Crossing Open Ground
“There are many things in this book that are fascinating and generally unknown. One is that these soldiers were afraid to report what they had seen and done ... but without reporting it they couldn’t receive any medical help for their trauma.”—Darius Rejali, author of Torture and Democracy
“None of Us Were Like This Before is a serious, comprehensive effort to examine how torture and abuse, once embarked upon, damage the torturer and abuser as well as the tortured and abused.”—Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell
“This is an important book showing the damage abuse does to the torturers as well as to their victims.”—Oliver Bullough, Independent
“The causes and consequences of systematic abuse and torture are all explored by Joshua Phillips through a careful but searing narrative.”—Dominic Alexander, Counterfire
“A fascinating yet distressing account of how the use of torture and abusive techniques on prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan affected the lives of American soldiers who found themselves caught up in it. Far from neglecting the suffering of the victims, Phillips, through meticulous research, also brings home the full horror of the war crimes inflicted upon the citizens of the occupied nations.”—Craig Hawes, Gulf News
“Joshua Phillips’ book shows that America’s leaders were wrong.”—National
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This book doesn't shy away from the brutality of American torture and the author's accounts from victims of torture is searing. It's impossible to not to be angry at the injustices suffered. But this book is not a "hit piece" on the military or soldiers and the author has a surprising amount of empathy for the sufferings of both the victim and victimizer. It alternately made me very sad and very mad for all the persons affected by it.
Understanding the situation that some of our soldiers found themselves in and what some of them did to detainees and what they went through after really forced me to give sympathy to persons I had previously thought of only as "bad apples" guilty of monstrous crimes. The truth is much more complicated.
Other parts of the book give overviews on the subject matter, the history or detainee abuse, the decision-making of the higher ups and so on. Much of the book is written in the first person which helps give a lighter touch to a very heavy subject matter.
I learned a lot from this book and highly recommend it. You'll think about it not only around the issue of torture but generally on any story about soldiers returning home with post-traumatic stress disorder.
First of all, the book tells highly personal stories and really shows how the policies and ineptitudes of modern American warfare affect the lives of regular people. It examines the beliefs and conditions that enabled detainee abuse and torture. These were beliefs that were widespread; and were shared by the lower ranking officers as well as senior political and military officials. It shows how these beliefs consisted of rumors, myth and folklore (including pseudoscience for which we have select mental health professionals to thank; professionals who, in my opinion, need to take a good look at themselves).
But most importantly, this is a book that is exceedingly respectful of the troops, the veterans and their families. Phillips sheds new light on the costs of detainee abuse and torture not just on detainees, but also on American counter terrorism training and, most surprisingly and poignantly, on the soldiers and their families. The focus on the effects of torture on the perpetrators is something I have not seen reported in the media. It is a subject that really deserves to be given more attention. Phillips negotiates the fine line between not being an apologist for these young troops, while also honestly trying to understand the circumstances that led them to engage in this behavior. He also shows that even when some brave troops tried to speak up about the abuse (such as in the case of J. Millantz) the military didn't bother to listen. This book succeeds in extending the discourse beyond the facile "a few bad apples" theory, which in itself is reason enough to read it.
Phillips frames his book with the sad, alarming stories of soldiers Adam Gray and Jonathan Millantz. This structure provided a very powerful ordering device for his book, and impressed me with the fact that he treated these burdened young men (as well as the stories of Afghans and Iraqis) with such evident dignity and compassion.
This book makes a compelling (and for me, surprising) case for the ultimate ineffectiveness of torture, and how dreadfully counterproductive so many techniques and methods have proved. The misdirected policies and misplaced ideals that Phillips details in his book have resulted in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo becoming such powerful recruiting symbols for terror groups; "the Abu Ghraib" becoming a by-word for certain torture acts; and soldiers influenced by pop-cultural depictions of interrogations evidently committing regrettable acts with a least tacit approval from above.
The writing in this important book is powerful and eminently readable, and the points contained therein should be absorbed by all of us.
Most Recent Customer Reviews
Too many generalities for my tastes and a profound lack of focus. Reads like a bright boy's college thesis. Read morePublished 12 months ago by Amazon Customer
I am a Marine who served in Vietnam along the DMZ. I am 100% disabled with PTSD. I also have prostate cancer and Parkinson's disease attributed to Agent Orange. Read morePublished 14 months ago by Chi
At the heart of “None of Us Were like This Before” is one unit’s tragic story.
The 1st Battalion, 68th Armor Regiment, 3rd Brigade, 4th Infantry Division, deployed to... Read more
I thought this would be about the troops and how they would become different than they were "before". Read morePublished on May 29, 2013 by Loves the View
We often think that the only danger in which we put soldiers is physical danger. But we ignore the mental and emotional dangers of asking them to do horrible, morally repugnant... Read morePublished on April 12, 2013 by M. Abe
This book takes an in depth look at the impact of torture on those who administer it, a unique and important perspective that is often missing from war coverage. Read morePublished on December 3, 2012 by Greg
"None of Us Were Like This Before: American Soldiers and Torture" by Joshua Phillips finally gives the personal perspectives of the people involved on both sides of what happened... Read morePublished on September 19, 2012 by janet
This is really a powerful and fascinating book. I was amazed how the book exposed all sorts of dimensions about detainee abuse and torture that I never knew about. Read morePublished on July 20, 2012 by LS
It's very tough to cover topics like torture, veterans issues, and PTSD. They're painful subjects, and hard for most of us to confront. Read morePublished on July 19, 2012 by Abriro