18 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Ok but not great, February 19, 2006
This review is from: No Nonsense XML Web Development with PHP (Paperback)
This is my revised and rewritten review of this book.
The first review dated Feb 19 was just two stars, titled `Disjointed and Superficial', and read...
I bought Myer's book to help me move from XHTML to XML and to handle data with PHP which does not fit well in a relational database / SQL. I am not interested in writing a CMS, and therefore tried to skim or skip those parts. Unfortunately, some key points are buried in the CMS discussion. Subjects (ie: Namespace) seem to be mentioned or touched on in several places without doing a thorough job at any one point or multiple points. The subjects which are discussed, are not discussed in depth. And why is Ralph Waldo Emmerson given ink on page 59, and then included in the index??? I found myself working a little too hard to just get the important points.
I know Myer tried very hard to write a good book, and it is not a 'really bad' book. On a positive note: The editing error rate seems to be low as compared to a lot of first edition, first printing computer books. There is some good material in it, but this book does not work well for me. I have at least temporarily given up on this book a little short of the half way point. Since finding a really good XML book seems harder than it should be, I may come back to this one, and if so, I'll update this opinion.
Warning: [3 opinions given here appear to be by paid reviewers. ie: 9/14/05, 10/7/05, and 11/8/05. I now suspect some of the others are personal friends of the author. Hint: Check out the person writing the review before actually reading it. Look for how many opinions he/she writes and how many stars. I distrust all high opinions in the first few months of publication, all high opinions by people who have only written a couple of opinions, and all high opinions from people who only write high opinions. Bottom Line: Distrust all high opinions except those from people who have established some evidence of independence by posting negative as well as positive opinions about other books. Thanks for the lack of honesty Tommy &/or Sitepoint &/or big A. I would have given 3 stars if there were not so many false ones posted here. (my opinion, 2 cma).]
Now, having finished Myer's book (except for most of the CMS stuff), I have changed it to 3 stars and concluded ....
There are about an equal number of pros and cons. It is somewhat light and easy to read, and the editing error rate is good. It is kind of a quick survey of subjects which Myer thinks are important. I did like chapters 7 & 9 (Manipulating XML with PHP, & XML and Web Services).
On the con side: The Appendix listing of PHP functions / methods is not complete and no examples are given. Where he discusses ways to extract XML from a database, two different sources (tables) are used, so the results are not comparable. I wish he had spent more ink on handling XML with PHP and less on client side technologies which are not well supported yet. I found the example listings a little short and lacking some additional code which would have helped follow what was supposed to happen. More output/results listings would also have helped.
The book is not particularly complete, and could not be used as a reference, but it may be ok (not great) as an overview or introduction. A better intro book may be `Beginning XML, 3rd Edition' by David Hunter etc., although that is a much bigger book.
Lastly, do not trust any high star rating review unless the source has proven his/her impartiality by posting positive as well as not so positive reviews of other books. Too many opinions of this book do not pass that simple test. The basic problem is determining who to believe and which postings to suspect are covertly trying to sell books because they have a vested interest or undisclosed motive.
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13 of 15 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Fantastic XML Guide!!, September 14, 2005
This review is from: No Nonsense XML Web Development with PHP (Paperback)
I've done a lot of reviews for computer reference books out there, and I am continually impressed by the sitepoint line of web development books. I have yet to find a book by sitepoint that I didn't find immediately useful or get something out of, and 'No Nonsense XML Web Development With PHP' keeps the tradition of great books going. The first thing that I would like to state is that while 'PHP' is on the cover of this text, this is a little misleading. PHP is the chosen server-side language used in examples throughout, but this book is not just for PHP developers. Having primarily worked in the ASP/ASP.NET world, I wasn't sure if this book would be very useful with my track record and if there is any complaint to be made, it's that I think the PHP part should have been dropped, as this will no doubt cause an audience that would have found this book useful to shy away and pick up a related text without the PHP note in the title.
As for the book itself, the author begins with a history of XML and some basic examples of its usefulness in the everyday world (why it's here to stay). Not only providing the basics and history of XML, the author goes on to talk about what DTDs/schemas are used for and how XSLT can be used to turn an XML document into another XML document, an HTML document, etc. How Javascript can be used on the client-side to access and modify XML is discussed, and then PHP is demonstrated in numerous examples to show how real logic can be put in use with XML data. The author also discusses RSS, web services and how to incorporate XML data and a database.
All in all, this is great book for any individual to learn more about how to use XML in your web site/application. More a teaching tool than a reference, this book follows up on the great history of other sitepoint books and is a highly recommended resource for any web professional that wants to learn more about XML and how it has benefited everyone (and I do mean everyone since XML is so highly integrated with the Internet as a whole). PHP and MySQL users will get an added bonus since this is the focus environment of the book, but as stated right off the bat, you do not have to be an open-source developer to find this text highly useful.
***** HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
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6 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Straight to the point - best way to learn XML for the Web!, September 17, 2005
This review is from: No Nonsense XML Web Development with PHP (Paperback)
If you're like me and learn by DOING, this is the book for you. In each section, the author gets straight to the point he is making and then shows you how to do it, step by step. You start from scratch and end up with a working XML content management system and a head full of knowledge. He doesn't elaborate on all the open ended possibilities till your head hurts - he just shows you how to do it in 260 pages (excluding Appendices). Written in plain clear jargon-free English, and completely free of silly examples. This is simply the best book I've read on this topic.
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