Yeah, this may be a good way for them to make money by selling new copies over used copies, however, seeing as it's a single-player only game, this probably would've been a pretty popular game amongst those that are unable to connect to Xbox Live, and they might lose a lot of customers if the customers realize they aren't getting the full game. I mean, who wants a game that has the nudity, some violence, and locations in the game cut out of it unless you're connected to live?
I mean, I'll be honest, I've played the game on PC and the nudity isn't such a big deal...you'll live without it. And the only difference is there's pasties on the girls instead of them being completely topless, so that doesn't really matter. But cutting out some of the more graphic violence and some of the areas in the game, is pretty messed up. They're basically saying, "We don't trust you with this material so you'll have to have a connection to live and an adult account to download it." All these games coming out, (MW2, L4D2, GTA4:TBoGT, etc) and now they can't trust us with this content?
And what other reason could they give for their choice? To stop pirates? I mean, I'm sure anyone who pirates the game will find a way around it and get it unlocked eventually, so it's not even going to stop them. And even if they can't, who's going to care about one game that flew under the radar when they're able to download every other game ever released for Xbox...I'm sure they'll get over it. And it's not like they can't still play it, they'll just be missing some stuff...if they really want to play it I doubt that'll stop them.
Andrew probably has the most valid point, they're likely doing this just so they can sell more copies of the game as opposed to friends trading it back and forth, or people renting/buying it used. It's a pretty cheap move on their part, but I still plan on buying the game myself. If the DLC is available on marketplace for $5 (400MSP), I guess I won't mind as much. Though I doubt people that rent it will actually want to pay the extra $5, but at least it'll give the people who buy it used a chance to get the DLC, however, this isn't really mentioned anywhere I've read. I've found countless articles talking about how the game is including a code, but nothing about it actually being on marketplace as well. However, seeing as it is part of the game they originally made, and seeing as though they cut it at the last second, it seems as though it should be free, not $5. I mean, it is part of the game you PAID for, so why would they charge you more to get something that should've been included?
Is this how games are going to become? Can you imagine if you get to rank 35 in Modern Warfare 2 and it pops up a message, "To continue playing online you'll need to purchase this add-on for 400MSP." Or what about after a certain mission in the game? "To continue gameplay, please purchase the following add-on for 400MSP." We pay for the FULL game when we buy it. We don't pay for a disc so we can go home and unlock parts of the game online. Honestly, I don't think I've ever known a game that charges you to unlock violence and nudity...that's just ridiculous.
Oh well, I still think this was a bad idea on their part, because this seems to be the type of game that would've been popular amongst people with offline consoles, but now with this s*** they pulled, no one with an offline console is going to want to buy it.
I totally agree about the nudity part. There is no reason to miss out on a game because of nudity. As I was saying, even without nudity enabled they still only wear pasties...so you should definitely not skip the game because of that. In fact, who would even buy a game based on nudity anyway? Isn't that why BMX XXX failed, along with other games...because they had nudity but the gameplay just sucked so no one wanted them.
The other things that are cut out are "intense violence" whatever that is, so I would kinda be a little heated about that. I mean, why would you need to unlock violence in the game? And how do I know I'm not missing an amazing cinematic because there was too much violence. Like a huge gas tank exploding around 50+ nazi's and blowing them off a cliff, and burning them alive...or something like that...I definitely wouldn't want to miss something like that. Still, I don't think that would make me not buy the game.
The extra locations they speak of are, like you say, the extra brothels throughout the game that you're allowed to duck in to and get protection. Sure, this isn't a big thing, and you don't even see the inside of the brothels themselves, it basically shows you walking through the front door, some time passes, then you walk out. So that's not a big thing to miss, but it actually can be helpful on harder difficulties because those Nazi's can come on strong and it's actually a little hard to escape. It also includes an extra location underneath the brothel you live in which contains a mini-game, and three girls that will perform a burlesque dance for you, either one of them alone, or all three together. Not a big deal, and definitely something you can skip...it definitely reminds me of the lap dances you could get in GTA IV...so yeah, nothing much missed there...oh, and of course if you have nudity enabled they are topless...still, not a game changer.
However, the mini-game is a knife throwing wheel, and it can actually come in handy. If you can perfect it you can make tons of money off it which is pretty helpful in the game. Plus, it's actually a pretty fun mini-game. Even though this also doesn't change the story line in any way, it actually makes the game a little easier, and adds to the image their trying to give you about the time period, as is all of the other things. Such as the many brothels around town, the nudity, and removing it all does take away from the image you draw in your head, but I suppose that's okay.
The thing that really gets me is that they are removing stuff from the game that was there originally and forcing us to buy the game new if we want to access it. Or, if Andrew is right, forcing us to pay $5 to access it. I still see no reason why it wasn't included in the game personally. Like I said before, would you really want to buy a game, like MW2, only to find out you need to either purchase the game new to get a code, or pay an additional $5 to what you've already paid to unlock a feature that should've been included?
I still stand by the fact that if they are doing this solely for the point of selling more new copies over used that is just down right cheap. And if they offer it for $5 on marketplace for those who do buy it used, that is also cheap, as it should be free. But, to each his own. IF I didn't have my Xbox connected to the internet, I for one would still probably buy it, but might wait for a slight price drop...like $40-$45, instead of paying $60. And first I would look online and see what all "intense violence" they're talking about, and if it affects the game in anyway, such as skipping a mission they deemed as "too violent". As for the nudity, I really couldn't care less, but it should still be included on the disc for free, not as DLC.
Hmm...well. I suppose I'll loosen my stance a bit.
Didn't know there was a mini-game and the "violence" thing...
Not sure exactly if the violence would be worth it.
I think it shouldn't be on sale at all, maybe. Perhaps just include it in New copies and be done with it...though I suppose those who really love buying used copies and saving a few bucks would be pissed...
Personally...I'm a game collector and despise buying used...but I suppose it should all be included...but from a business standpoint...it makes sense...since these companies aren't fans of used copies either.
Perhaps think of it like this.
You buy a new car...3 years warranty...you sell it. You can't sell the warranty with it. Kinda a stretch..but I think it fits.