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Out of the Dark [Hardcover]

David Weber
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Book Description

September 28, 2010

The Galactic Hegemony has been around a long time, and it likes stability--the kind of stability that member species like the aggressive, carnivorous Shongairi tend to disturb. So when the Hegemony Survey Force encountered a world whose so-called "sentients"—"humans," they called themselves—were almost as bad as the Shongairi themselves, it seemed reasonable to use the Shongairi to neutralize them before they could become a second threat to galactic peace. And if the Shongairi took a few knocks in the process, all the better.

Now, Earth is conquered. The Shongairi have arrived in force, and humanity’s cities lie in radioactive ruins. In mere minutes, more than half the human race has died.

Master Sergeant Stephen Buchevsky, who thought he was being rotated home from his latest tour in Afghanistan, finds himself instead prowling the back country of the Balkans, dodging alien patrols and trying to organize scattered survivors without getting killed. And in the southeastern US, firearms instructor and former Marine Dave Dvorak finds himself at the center of a growing network of resistance—putting his extended family at lethal risk, but what else can you do?

On the face of it, Buchevsky’s and Dvorak’s chances look bleak, as do prospects for the rest of the surviving human race. But it may well be that Shongairi and the Hegemony alike have underestimated the inhabitants of that strange planet called Earth…


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Amazon Exclusive: A Q&A with Author David Weber

Q: Out of the Dark is an expansion of the novella you wrote for the Warriors anthology. What made you decide to turn the story into a full length novel?

Weber: There were several reasons, really. One was that I really liked the story and felt that in the novella I’d been forced to neglect too much of the rest of what was happening elsewhere on the planet in my concentration on Stephen Buchevsky, Mircea Basarab, and Romania. A second reason was that Tom Doherty really liked Out of the Dark and thought it would make a good expansion, possibly even the first book in a new series. A third reason was that it let me write “near-future” science fiction, which I don’t usually get to do, and that was a lot of fun.

Q: Out of the Dark is a detailed account of resistance to an alien invasion, with multiple battle scenes from multiple viewpoints. How do you approach writing these scenes?

Weber: I think the first requirement for writing a battle scene from multiple viewpoints is to know what happens in the battle. The second requirement is to know the characters who are going to provide your viewpoints. Generally, before I start writing the actual scene, I know basically how a battle is going to progress but don’t know all of the details. And since the characters that provide my viewpoints often appear only in “their” battle scene, I don’t know all the details about them before I start writing the scene, either. I do have to have a general feel for who they’re going to be and what their background is, just as I have to have the “skeleton” of the battle firmly in mind, but it’s still pretty general. And if it’s a land battle, especially, I have to have the terrain nailed down very firmly before I begin writing, as well.

Once I have the general course of the battle planned and the basic character traits, history, and attitudes in mind for the participants from both sides, the battle develops as a back-and-forth exchange. One side acts. My viewpoint character(s) on the other side experience the consequences of that action, and act or react. Sometimes there’s a cascade of actions from one side without an actual response from the other side, but the “receiving” side still experiences the results. The nature of the character determines how he or she personally perceives those results, of course, and hopefully the result for the reader is a fully developed perception of what’s going on from both sides.

One thing that helps me do multiple-viewpoint battle scenes is my belief that it’s necessary to “play fair” with both sides of the engagement. Both sides have to be “real people,” experiencing real consequences of what, after all, is a pretty horrible event, and trying to get “inside the heads” of people trapped in something like that adds texture and verisimilitude. It also acquaints the reader with characters on both sides rather than turning one side into cardboard targets whose deaths are suffering are thus somehow less important.

Q: One of the families in Out of the Dark, the Dvoraks, survives the invasion because of a hidden compound in the backwoods of North Carolina. Any personal inspiration for that? Do you have a secret survivalist cabin hidden away somewhere?

Weber: No, I don’t have a secret survivalist cabin hidden away somewhere. Sometimes I wish I did.

The location for the Dvorak/Wilson cabin is pretty close to someplace I spent several summers back in my late teens, which was…let’s just say it was “several decades” ago and leave it at that. I’ve always loved that area, and I decided I’d go back there for the book. As for the characters, there are bits and pieces of quite a few people—including my own family—in the Dvorak and Wilson families. I’m a South Carolina boy, after all, and I’ve been hunting in several of the places touched on in the book. As far as the Dvorak & Wilson Indoor Shooting Range is concerned, let’s just say that my real-life brother-in-law and I share a lot of the proprietors’ interest in firearms. You could sort of think of it as a wish fulfillment in an alternate universe, in that respect, at least.

Q: Many of your science fiction novels—Honor Harrington, the Safehold Saga, and now this new offering—feature aliens of some kind. Do you believe in alien life?

Weber: I think the existence of alien life has to be pretty much inevitable given the size and scope of the physical universe. And I think that anywhere there’s life, there’s the potential for intelligent life to arise. I don’t know how high probability an event intelligence represents, and I don’t think we can know that until and unless we have some comparative intelligences to look at. At the moment, everything we think about intelligence life is conditioned and constrained by our limitation to a one-planet, single-species perspective. We can speculate, we can argue probabilities, and we can belabor one another over the virtues of competing theories about the evolution of alien intelligences, but we simply can’t know. As far as I’m aware, we still can’t put a finger on the point in the development of the human species at which one can say “This is where intelligent life began.” Until we can do that in our own case, and until we’ve been able to look at the track record of some other intelligent species, meaningful speculation on the frequency with which intelligent life arises — and, even more, on how that intelligence may be similar to or different from our own — is really impossible. And, frankly, I think that the probability of two intelligent species encountering one another at roughly the same level of technology is low unless both represent expanding interstellar civilizations. How long has each of the species been a tool-user? How rapidly or slowly has their technology advanced? Did someone during the equivalent of their Roman Empire develop the scientific method and kick off their species’ industrial revolution 2,000 years earlier in their home world’s evolution? How “inevitable” has the pattern of our own technological development been, and how might some other species’ development differ from the pattern ours has followed?

Because of the distances involved on the interstellar scale, I think meetings between intelligent species are going to be rare. And I also think most of them are going to be the equivalent (only more so) of cannon-armed Europeans encountering hunter-gatherer societies or perhaps pre-iron civilizations in the New World. The latter, in some ways, is what happens to the Shongari in Out Of the Dark, actually. With a twist, of course.

From Publishers Weekly

Expanded from a short story that first appeared in George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois's anthology Warriors, this trilogy kickoff blends elements of military science fiction and dark fantasy. In the very near future, Earth has been targeted for colonization by a galactic empire known as the Hegemony. Deemed "lunatic local sentients" by a survey team that witnessed King Henry V and his troops slaughtering the French at Agincourt, humankind has essentially been written off as bloodthirsty, expendable barbarians. When the Hegemony's henchmen, the doglike Shongairi, show up to conquer Earth, the resistance is beyond anything they had ever imagined, especially when vampires appear to help the humans. Weber pulls off this conceit in audacious style with a focus on military-powered action that will thrill fans of his Honor Harrington series, and he keeps the pedal to the metal right up to the almost unbelievable conclusion.
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Product Details

  • Hardcover: 384 pages
  • Publisher: Tor Books; First Edition edition (September 28, 2010)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0765324121
  • ISBN-13: 978-0765324122
  • Product Dimensions: 9.3 x 6.3 x 1.2 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.3 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 2.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (388 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #285,518 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

More About the Author

David Mark Weber is an American science fiction and fantasy author. He was born in Cleveland, Ohio in 1952. Weber and his wife Sharon live in Greenville, South Carolina with their three children and "a passel of dogs".

Previously the owner of a small advertising and public relations agency, Weber now writes science fiction full time.

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This book was just plain bad. J. S. Baum  |  153 reviewers made a similar statement
And finally, the twist at the end of the book. Justin Rudd  |  74 reviewers made a similar statement
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258 of 280 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Filled with Regret (Mild Spoilers) October 4, 2010
Format:Hardcover
Its sad when you pick up a new stand-alone (I hope) novel by one of your favorite authors and realize too late that you've paid good money for a story he was completely phoning it in on.

This book is the first thing that has managed to make me regret the purchase of my Kindle. If I'd bought this book in harcover I would have been able to return it immediately after reading. Or at least been able to put to to some a more suitable (and flammable) use.

Most of the other posters here have covered the problems with this book in greater detail than I'll go into. Heavy-handed Deus Ex Machina & unusually poor character development for David Weber come most closely to mind.

When I first read the teasers and dust jacket some months before release, I was generally enthusiastic about this book. Vampires were a weird crossover into military sci-fi; however, given the quality of David's other work I thought it could work. The concept of aliens invading a planet, and finding out after the fact that there was in fact a second , and more dangerous, sentient species lurking amongst and preying upon the first seemed like it could make for a great story.

What I expected from the book was development of a universe in which a species of predators that live among us are forced into the open by an alien invasion in order to preserve themselves. I expected, for lack of a better turn of phrase, 'rational vampires'. Vampires whose existence was developed over the course of the novel (instead of the final chapters) and whose abilities and origins were explained. I expected tension between vampire characters who view humanity as prey, and the humans they have to work with to continue to exist.

What I was treated to was a last minute appearance of over-powered and un-explained Hollywood-style vampires to save the day, and trivialize pretty much everything that had gone before in the novel. The core twist, given away in the dust jacket, was only developed in the very final chapters and was raced to a conclusion without regard for the reader.

Maybe this was the story David wanted to tell. A story of an alien race who ran into something completely beyond their comprehension. And I could live with that if he had not also left it beyond the reader's comprehension as well. We were left with no explanation for the core character and species that brought the novel to its conclusion. And that I find annoying and offensive.

As a campy B-quality sci-fi novel found dog-eared in a used bookstore, I would have found this book to be marginally acceptable and 2-3 dollars well spent. From David Weber, its just a huge let-down.

I'm a big David Weber fan. I own or have read virtually every novel he has managed to write, and have done my best to introduce his work to all my friends. I recommend that anyone wanting to read his work start with On Basilsk Station or Off Armageddon Reef, which are both fantastic novels and provide a much better baseline for the quality of his work, as well as being the starts of great series.

As for Out of the Dark I strongly advise passing on it. If you absolutely have to read it and can't find it in a public library I suggest trying a used bookstore. There should be plenty of copies.
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143 of 164 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Ouch. Waste of money. October 2, 2010
By CLH
Format:Hardcover|Amazon Verified Purchase
I'm a dedicated HH fan, and also a fan of many of Ringo's alien invasion books. when Weber took a stab at the story idea I read along as the story was posted at the bar and at 5th imperium.
I felt a sense of satisfaction and savage glee when chapter 12 rolled around and earth hits back. The F-22 attack was what sold me, I had to get the book. I envisioned a desperate battle against overwhelming odds, with humanity banding together and fighting back. The F-22's and other aircraft hiding out and running guerilla campaigns against the alien invaders like in the Terminator books.
I recieved the book yesterday afternoon and it only took me a couple hours to read it. (The chapters are only a couple pages each)
Here I was thinking he'd sneak a nuke into a LZ, maybe use a nuclear sub, capture some alien tech and reverse engineer some of it...
Then it went all downhill from there. I can see his point, take out long distance communications along with every leader and you knock out C&C coordination for guerilla groups. The orbital retaliation strikes is a nice twist, and people being people panic setting in and flooding the countryside.. yeah that make sense. That and the whole exploring of human psychology from the invader's side I can get.
What bothered me was there was only a token exploration of the alien tech by the humans. Nothing is done with it. Then as I got closer and closer to the end and the climax built I was excited when humanity started hitting back totally out of the blue. Bases being taken down by ghosts. Who were theses super soldiers? Robinson and a select group of special forces using Darpa weapons? Aliens like the invaders were thinking?
The twist (and boy is it a doozy) is out of left field. FAAAAR out of left field and a terrible one at that. He had hinted about it earlier, but I had dismissed it. It totally ticked me off when I finally figured it out. Terrible, just terrible. Right out of the pages of Anne Rice or Twighlight. I think the whole vampire thing is a little too played out. Sigh
The ending did have shadows of another book series by another author. that too had alien dog people and vamps. Nasty.
If you've got to read it, I suggest borrowing a copy from your library first.
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158 of 185 people found the following review helpful
Format:Hardcover
I expect this review will make me unpopular. First off I will say I own david webers works in hardcover all of them, So it isn't I hate the author. Howver this book is a pile of steaming monkey .... waste. If it wasn't for the fact mr. Weber's name sells it wouldn't have been published. I actually find the cultural conflict intresting the technical explanations meeeh? But deus ex vampire is silly. After 50% of the human race is killed by the aliens with difficulty I admit. The vampires effortlessly slaughter the entire alien invasion force, OOkay well say the aliens weren't expecting I can give that a pass. But and I have been reading books for a lot of years so I am capable of allowing for a lot in the name of storyline. I cannot swallow the vampires riding up to the alien starships on the outside of the the shuttles taking over every alien starship simultaniously with out a single warning getting off. Somebody since the author didn't explain this to me please ? I mean high mach numbers, high tempatures, sunlight, sealed airlocks paranoid alien combat troops. I am capable of suspending alot for a good story but it aint. I will honestly say if Mr. weber was not an author that will always sell this would have made it straight to the editors waste basket. were it frankly belongs. sorry mr Weber you can and have done much much better sse albuquerque
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4.0 out of 5 stars Wonderful
Good book all considered. Never have rated a Weber book below a 4 before but you know what you did. It's a must read or Weber fans.
Published 5 days ago by danny seegraves
4.0 out of 5 stars "Battlefield: L.A." in novel
No spoilers in this review.

If you liked the movie "Battlefield L.A." then you'll probably like this book. Read more
Published 7 days ago by Hearim
4.0 out of 5 stars he strikes again
David Weber never ceases to amaze me with his writting! It ruins my day because I have to put it down!
Published 23 days ago by Paul D Walker
1.0 out of 5 stars Don't
!!!SPOILERS!!!

I want desperately to like this book. In fact, up until the last 30 or so pages, I was enthralled. Read more
Published 1 month ago by Cameron d
2.0 out of 5 stars Not One of Weber's Better Offerings
Lost the flow of the story with technical information on weaponry. Having Dracula save the human race was a reach.
Published 1 month ago by John Robilotti
2.0 out of 5 stars Bait-and-Switch: Fantasy, not SciFi, resolves this otherwise hard...
Three-quarters or more of this book as an enjoyable, hard, military scifi yarn. And, then, suddenly, it wasn't. Read more
Published 1 month ago by XSiberia
5.0 out of 5 stars Talk about surprise endings!
Very interesting ending....oh the the twist. Keep an open mind and enjoy the irony. well done, as all David Weber books are. Loved it!
Published 1 month ago by Mikedave
3.0 out of 5 stars Lazy Weber
Holds up well enough until the last couple of chapters when Weber resorts to a 'deus ex machina' resolution. As much a cheat as "and then I woke up".
Published 2 months ago by Harold Tisdale
2.0 out of 5 stars Yeesh
This starts off as average potboiler military sf, "Earth attacked by aliens who have some weaknesses we can exploit". Read more
Published 2 months ago by Dwaz
1.0 out of 5 stars I regretted getting this.
This is the worst David Weber book I've read. It really felt like he phoned this one in. Decent start, but the ending is simply a badly executed deus ex machina. Not recommended.
Published 2 months ago by Griffin
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This part of one of his existing series?
No, no it's not. (Not that I'm secretly David Weber or anything, but I'm pretty sure I'd remember if any of his existing series had included vampires. Or an alien conquest of present day Earth, for that matter.) It sounds like this is an expansion of a novella of the same name.
Jun 16, 2010 by Steuard Jensen |  See all 17 posts
Shouldn't this be a Ringo - Posleen book?
I'm halfway through the book, and ready to quit. Except for the lack of any rape/bondage/sexual torture scenes, it reads exactly like a John Ringo book. No character development, perfect humans, unbelievable good luck, etc, etc.
Nov 23, 2010 by American Goth |  See all 3 posts
X-Files
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most of the time the supernatural baddies were trying to eat his face.
Sep 27, 2010 by James W. Roberts III |  See all 2 posts
Short story made longer?
This is an extension of the short story that was found in the anthology "Warriors." It's about 2.5 times as long and includes several new characters and new plot threads.
Sep 12, 2010 by Gena Smith |  See all 2 posts
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