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10 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Over the Edge,
By A Customer
This review is from: Over the Edge: The True Story of Four American Climbers' Kidnap and Escape in the Mountains of Central Asia (Hardcover)
This is an interesting work of journalism. Greg Child, a well-known climbing writer, is branching out and expanding his skills here. Overall, I'd say he does well. Climbers may want to be advised that this is *not* a climbing book; there's very little description of climbing and what there is has been written so as to fit a broader audience.Child does three things here. First, he discusses the history and nature of Islamic terrorism in Central Asia. I'd think this element would have appeal to anyone interested in current events. Although some of the informational segments are dry, it's terrifying to realize the extent of, and the numbers of people involved in, violently fanatical beliefs. And it's tragic to think that some of the most beautiful wilderness landscapes on the planet are tainted by human brutality. The 9/11 tie-in here is obvious, since the group which kidnapped the climbers was tied to the Taliban. Secondly, Child tells the story of the climbers, four young Americans who were taken as hostages. (We also get, briefly, the story of some European captives at the same period). And that's a slightly depressing view of human nature. While it's unclear how much warning the climbers had about the dangerous nature of the country they were visiting, it's obvious that they took a risk. There's something repugnant about these privileged Americans showing up in this extremely impoverished society with their CD walkmans, minidisc players, thousands of dollars of camera equipment (though the latter, granted, does professionally relate to their work for The North Face), and other electronic gadgets. When they were captured, it appears that the undoubted courage it takes to climb hard routes didn't exactly translate. One can relate to their fear and helplessness. Lastly, Child discusses the ugly attacks by other climbers and journalists, including Americans, on the hostages' story. Various details, even the story as a whole, were challenged by people who had never been to Kyrgyztan or interviewed any of the participants themselves. In my view, the physical and psychological condition of the four, upon their return, gives their story credence, as do the circumstances under which their gear was visibly abandoned. It also seems to me that Child is a trustworthy journalist. And perhaps most of all, if someone was going to make up a story about a heroic escape from terrorists, they'd make up something... heroic. Pushing a man off a cliff and running, though a sensible response to an extreme situation, isn't really a heroic act. Readers must choose for themselves, of course, whom they believe.
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Pre 9/11 insights,
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This review is from: Over the Edge: The True Story of Four American Climbers' Kidnap and Escape in the Mountains of Central Asia (Hardcover)
I'm on a "True Escape Stories" kick right now. In my opinion, the more realistic and the least fantastic the stories are, the better. And that's precisely what you get with "Over the Edge". It's a story about how four American climbers escaped from their Muslim terrorist kidnappers. The fact that this all happened prior to 9/11 gave this reader an entirely different insight into what's going on in Iraq today.
One strange thing about the book is that the author often refers to himself throughout the book. This made absolutely no sense to me until the later chapters where he actually became an active character in the story. At first I thought he was on some kind of ego trip, but I later realized that the last part of the book would have made no sense at all without his personal information.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Unbelievable,
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This review is from: Over the Edge: The True Story of Four American Climbers' Kidnap and Escape in the Mountains of Central Asia (Hardcover)
The tale of four young rock climbers escaping from shadowy rebel captors burst into national consciousness in August of 2000, I remember thinking "Why is this the first time we've heard anything about this?". Greg Child has crafted a hard to put down answer to that as well as the heartpounding tale of the four climbers...Jason Smith, John Dickey, Tommy Caldwell and Beth Rodden, and their almost unbelievable tale of survival. Traveling to a remote area of Kyrgyzstan to tackle a challenging climb, the four were not aware they were entering a zone rife with political turmoil. The remote area was favored as a training ground for various factions of militant..including the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan. Taken captive, along with others, by the rebel group the four begin a desperate journey across the inhospitable terrain, at gunpoint. They saw a fellow hostage executed before their eyes,and began to realize the grim fate that was theirs. In furtive conversation, driven by fear, hunger and an will to survive the four begin to realize that their survival will depend solely on them and they formulate a desperate escape plan. But if they do manage to escape they are faced with a treck through difficult territory, not just inhospitable form the elements and terrain, but from the unknown warring factions who may inhabit it. Even more unbelievable are the naysayers who downplay the four's peril and even try to refute the whole tale once they have reached freedom. In a theme that has become famlair in other mountain climbing books, there seems to be as much drama in the few within the mountian climbing community's attempts to tear down the climbers, once their physical ordeal is over. This is a gripping tale of survival and the ability to overcome.
8 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
MORE IS SOMETIMES LESS...,
By Lawyeraau (Balmoral Castle) - See all my reviews (VINE VOICE) (COMMUNITY FORUM 04) (TOP 100 REVIEWER) (HALL OF FAME REVIEWER)
This review is from: Over the Edge: The True Story of Four American Climbers' Kidnap and Escape in the Mountains of Central Asia (Audio Cassette)
This is the true story of four young Americans, three men and one woman, who in August of 2000 ventured into Kyrgyzstan in order to rock climb in the Pamir-Alai mountain range. On August 11, 2000, while climbing, they would suddenly find themselves the target of sniper fire. After their descent, they would find themselves taken at gunpoint and held hostage by young Islamic fundamentalists of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan. They would join a Kyrgyz soldier whom the militants had already taken prisoner.The next six days would prove to be harrowing ones for these climbers, who would be marched thrugh the rugged terrain of the mountains with little food and water and constant threat of execution at the hands of their heavily armed captors. They would eventually see the their fellow captive, the Kyrgyz soldier with whom they had bonded, executed. With nothing to lose, they would be forced to make a life or death decision that was to cause them much angst but would allow for an escape. This audio book is well narrated by Armand Schultz who does an excellent job of infusing with atmosphere the author's somewhat dry chronicle of these startling pre-9/11 events that, looking back in hindsight, now seem to have a much more evil and sinister portent. The story is multifaceted in that it grounds what happened to these climbers in a global context, giving the historical backdrop and political dynamics of the area. The author fully lays out the media circus that enveloped the climbers upon their return to the United States. He also found himself becoming part of the story, as exclusivity and certain monetary arrangements he had made with the climbers threatened to dominate the story and cast a pall over the veracity of all. The author also lays out the secret pact that the climbers had made over the agonizing decision one of them had reached in order to effect their escape. It was a decision that they believed had led to the death of the captor who had been entrusted with keeping them captive. The media circus around what had happened to them turned decidedly ugly when it was discovered that this captor was still alive and under arrest. What he had to say would then throw the media into a further tailspin. Thanks to the power of television, however, a Dateline NBC interview with the captor at the heart of the storm of the controversy would finally put to rest some of the unsavory portions of this true life adventure. What really stands out is the naivete and ignorance of the climbers about the part of the world in which they were traveling. Notwithstanding the fact that none of them seemed to be particularly bright, they had done very little in terms of research into the area before traveling there nor had they heeded State Department advisories about the area. The climbers, in large part, remain somewhat of an enigma and, as such, the reader finds oneself caring very little about them. This news saga originally appeared as a gripping article in "Outside" magazine. I had the good fortune to have read it and was transfixed by what had happened. I do not recall who wrote the article, though it was most likely Greg Child. In writing this book, however, he seems to have sucked the life out of the story. While still worth reading, it is an adventure story uitterly devoid of passion.
5 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
A gripping, truthful tale (and a definitive rebuttal),
By A Customer
This review is from: Over the Edge: The True Story of Four American Climbers' Kidnap and Escape in the Mountains of Central Asia (Hardcover)
The reader from Ohio recycles the same tired slander that has dogged this book since its beginning as an article in Outside magazine. It is not true that the four climbers spoke only to Greg Child. Two of the climbers held a press conference upon their return to the U.S., and all of the climbers gave interviews to many publications, including Climbing. It is true, however, that the climbers gave complete access and the full story of their ordeal only to Child. As for the persistent and malicious rumors that the climbers changed their story or somehow lied about what happened, Child's book definitively establishes that poorly translated articles in the foreign press, in conjunction with a campaign of gossip and innuendo on the part of several American outdoor journalists, have kept alive the notion that something was not right with the story Greg Child and the climbers have been telling. However, a recent Dateline NBC broadcast (iwith lengthy interviews with all four climbers, including Jason Smith) confirmed that Child has been right all along -- and it featured a crucial interview with the kidnapper who was pushed off a cliff during their escape, and who confirmed that the climbers had been truthful all along. This is an excellent book about the ethics and costs of adventure.
4 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Hour By Hour Drama,
By sweetmolly (RICHMOND, VA USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Over the Edge: The True Story of Four American Climbers' Kidnap and Escape in the Mountains of Central Asia (Hardcover)
Fanatical rebels of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) of Central Asia snatch four young American wall climbers for a six-day ordeal through the wilds of remote Kyrgyzstan in the summer of 2000. The area, formerly part of the USSR, is bordered by Pakistan, Afghanistan, China and Iran.There are only a few areas of the world that meet the geologic criteria of having Great Walls and Kyrgyzstan is one of them, along with the U.S.'s Yosemite National Park. These kids were great climbers, but their awareness of world affairs was zero to none. True, State Department advisories were vague, and the fact they were not warned or stopped by either their on-site travel agency or the military is unbelievable. The quartet, three boys and one girl, had a terrifying experience being under fire, under constant threat of execution, seeing a soldier executed before their eyes, and had almost no food or water during the nightmare ordeal. They finally escaped by one of them shoving their guard over a cliff, presumably to his death. I was struck again and again by the almost total helplessness of these young people, particularly Beth Rodden. She is a very nice, well brought up young lady, but seemed to revert to a sobbing childlike state of overwhelming terror. The boys were very protective, but unable to plan coherently and missed many opportunities to escape. Two of the boys were full of braggadocio and talk, but ultimately were incapable of action. The other was almost catatonic, but at least had a very real awareness of the danger and when it counted, acted. The terrorists did not physically harm them. They were ready to execute the hostages at any moment, but never assaulted or beat them. Greg Child is uniquely qualified to tell this white-knuckle tale. He is an experienced mountaineer, familiar with Kyrgyzstan having climbed there in '95, and is the author of some well-received mountaineering books. I have read two of his books and enjoyed his easy going style, his expertise, and his factual integrity. Their return prompted a media frenzy that quickly turned into a firestorm. First because Mr. Child obtained exclusive rights to the hostage's story causing much hostility from other members of the press and secondly, the guard who the hostages pushed off the cliff turned up very much alive and not much worse for wear. The guard's accounts of the escape sometimes did and sometimes did not agree with the hostages' account. There were cries of "hoax!" and bitterness over the large monetary advance Mr. Child and the hostages received. I believe the story and am not much troubled by the fact the hostages' assumption they had killed the guard. It was dark, they saw him cartwheel in space, and thought he had fallen a great distance. (He did not.) I once saw a convertible on a switchback mountain road sail over a guardrail and tumble into space. I was positive and would have sworn that all the occupants had to be dead from the fall. It turned out the worst injury was a broken arm and the other two only had scratches and bruises. And this was in broad daylight!
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Gripping? Well, not really, but you'll finish it,
By James Kerr "James" (Virginia) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Over the Edge: The True Story of Four American Climbers' Kidnap and Escape in the Mountains of Central Asia (Hardcover)
This is a medium speed book, not artfully written, certainly not "gripping" in the thriller sense, but a decent, interesting read nonetheless. The author's main challenge is that the central story -- the kidnapping ordeal -- was more magazine article material than book length material. There just wasn't enough to the actual kidnapping escape saga to put together a long book. The author confronts this challenge in two ways, one very interesting and one a tedious distraction. The first filler for the story is a well laid out history of islamic fundamentalism in the region. Most readers won't know a thing about the region (or at least didn't prior to 9/11), but the author adeptly fills in the background to the kidnapping. (On the other hand, the author's eye for detail is a little too general; for example, peasant's huts are visited with hardly any description of sense, sight, smells of the place -- he could have done more to take us into this undeveloped region). The second filler is the whole saga of whether it really happened like the hikers said. These tedious disputes should have been dealt with in footnotes. By devoting so much space to this the author almost starts to make you think he doth protesteth too much. Having to wade through this insiders circle of tit-for-tat charges really gives the book a bad aftertaste. Finally, the author sets out a lot of information that will probably lead many to ponder how these kids got so far in over their head in this region. The author makes it so clear that they had no idea about the political situation in the region -- they only cared about the mountains -- that he almost pushes you to ask yourself: were they simply naive or perhaps even arrogant in ignoring local developments and thinking they could walk into a country and not even bother to know what was taking place.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Climbers refused all interviews,
By A Customer
This review is from: Over the Edge: The True Story of Four American Climbers' Kidnap and Escape in the Mountains of Central Asia (Hardcover)
The reader from California derides those who came to an opinion without first interviewing the participants themselves. The reader from California neglects to mention that the climbers refused to grant interviews in America to anyone other than Greg Child, until after Child published this book. Many journalists therefore were forced to rely on Jason Smith's interview with Agence France-Press and the Associated Press while Smith was still in Kyrgyzstan (before Child struck his book deal). Smith told these reporters that the climbers were abandoned by their captors. It is interesting to note that Jason Smith is not traveling with the Greg Child book tour, attended by all the other climbers.
3.0 out of 5 stars
MORE IS SOMETIMES LESS...,
By Lawyeraau (Balmoral Castle) - See all my reviews (VINE VOICE) (COMMUNITY FORUM 04) (TOP 100 REVIEWER) (HALL OF FAME REVIEWER)
This review is from: Over the Edge: A True Story of Kidnap and Escape in the Mountains of Central Asia (Paperback)
This is the true story of four young Americans, three men and one woman, who in August of 2000 ventured into Kyrgyzstan in order to rock climb in the Pamir-Alai mountain range. On August 11, 2000, while climbing, they would suddenly find themselves the target of sniper fire. After their descent, they would find themselves taken at gunpoint and held hostage by young Islamic fundamentalists of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan. They would join a Kyrgyz soldier whom the militants had already taken prisoner.
The next six days would prove to be harrowing ones for these climbers, who would be marched thrugh the rugged terrain of the mountains with little food and water and constant threat of execution at the hands of their heavily armed captors. They would eventually see the their fellow captive, the Kyrgyz soldier with whom they had bonded, executed. With nothing to lose, they would be forced to make a life or death decision that was to cause them much angst but would allow for an escape. This audio book is well narrated by Armand Schultz who does an excellent job of infusing with atmosphere the author's somewhat dry chronicle of these startling pre-9/11 events that, looking back in hindsight, now seem to have a much more evil and sinister portent. The story is multifaceted in that it grounds what happened to these climbers in a global context, giving the historical backdrop and political dynamics of the area. The author fully lays out the media circus that enveloped the climbers upon their return to the United States. He also found himself becoming part of the story, as exclusivity and certain monetary arrangements he had made with the climbers threatened to dominate the story and cast a pall over the veracity of all. The author also lays out the secret pact that the climbers had made over the agonizing decision one of them had reached in order to effect their escape. It was a decision that they believed had led to the death of the captor who had been entrusted with keeping them captive. The media circus around what had happened to them turned decidedly ugly when it was discovered that this captor was still alive and under arrest. What he had to say would then throw the media into a further tailspin. Thanks to the power of television, however, a Dateline NBC interview with the captor at the heart of the storm of the controversy would finally put to rest some of the unsavory portions of this true life adventure. What really stands out is the naivete and ignorance of the climbers about the part of the world in which they were traveling. Notwithstanding the fact that none of them seemed to be particularly bright, they had done very little in terms of research into the area before traveling there nor had they heeded State Department advisories about the area. The climbers, in large part, remain somewhat of an enigma and, as such, the reader finds oneself caring very little about them. This news saga originally appeared as a gripping article in "Outside" magazine. I had the good fortune to have read it and was transfixed by what had happened. I do not recall who wrote the article, though it was most likely Greg Child. In writing this book, however, he seems to have sucked the life out of the story. While still worth reading, it is an adventure story uitterly devoid of passion.
4.0 out of 5 stars
great book,
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This review is from: Over the Edge: The True Story of Four American Climbers' Kidnap and Escape in the Mountains of Central Asia (Hardcover)
I really liked this book. It was an interesting account of the climbers experiences. I only gave it 4 stars because I thought it was overly dramatized at times. Overall, a worthwhile read.
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