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Product Details

  • Audio CD (January 13, 2008)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Import
  • Label: Earache UK
  • ASIN: B000AXW4Z6
  • Average Customer Review: 3.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (5 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #2,422,982 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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12 of 12 people found the following review helpful By Murat Batmaz on December 13, 2005
Format: Audio CD
If you were surprised by the originality of The Painter's Palette, Ephel Duath's previous release, wait until you give their new platter a full listen. This is a mindblowing and incredibly well crafted album. Davide Tiso has put together a new disc that is at times deliberately pretentious yet everything is so meticulously expressed and performed that there is nothing to complain about. From the schizophrenic mood prevalant on the entire album to the dark and swift song arrangements, Pain Necessary to Know is a very powerful statement that treads the dangerous line between fluid jazz and skull-crushing metal. Though there are fewer brass instruments this time around, the band's jazz explorations go far deeper utilising every element the genre has to offer and blending them together with the band's trademark scream vocal ferocity and avant-garde approach.

As its predecessor, the new album is also a disc that could be likened to Mr Bungle, Zappa, and John Zorn. The music presented here is still very spontaneous and littered with ever-changing drum and bass patterns. Furthermore, there is an evident Dillinger Escape Plan touch prevalent that renders Pain Necessary to Know even more immediate and aggressive. The amount of clean vocals has noticeably decreased; actually they would be almost nonexistent had it not been for "I Killed Rebecca", a jazz drum charged piece with siren-like wailing guitars, harrowing whispers during a dark acoustic passage that precedes a very cluttered and multi-layered instrumental section. The song even has some industrial tendencies offered in small segments - incredibly experimental to say the least.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful By Joel Israel on October 29, 2006
Format: Audio CD
More genre-bending insanity from Europe...I'm not sure what woodwork all of these great avant-garde musicians are crawling out of over there, but I am enjoying the results. Ephel Duath are an Italian band displaying a unique and bizarre brand of death metal/acid-jazz fusion extreme music which is oddly capable of being both subtle and precarious at the same time. A typical Ephel Duath song sounds like some sort of weird graduate-level thesis in music theory performed with a stand-in death metal vocalist who thought his voice wasn't abrasive enough and decided to add a distortion pedal. The super-harsh vocal style diminshes the results a bit; I think that a change in vocal style might do them good, but whatever, this album seems primarily instrumental anyway, and quite amazing! All the players weave their individual jazz and metal tangents together into a constantly moving, unpredictable tapestry full of stops, starts, detours, and controlled chaos. The percussion really stood out for me....I think I heard everything from chimes to washboards and maracas on this disc. Seriously, the playing is just spectacular on this album; tracks like "Crystalline Whirl" display stunning musicianship, with unexpected changes and alterations of volume, mood, and instrumentation coming at you from all sides. It's all over the place, but still manages to be coherent enough to engage the listener....fascinating stuff, but not for the faint of heart.
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The good news is, this album has some of the most pleasing tones I've ever heard from any band, anywhere. The attitude of the guitar tone and recorded drum sounds are top-notch, perhaps even unparalleled.

The bad news is, it's nowhere near as good an album as "Painter's Pallette," which really showed promise as a cutting-edge art-metal band in the making.

The best tracks offered here are "Crystalline Whirl," "I Killed Rebecca," and "New Disorder."

Honestly, I rarely listen to this disc, but I'm also glad I own it. Despite its shortcomings, it's well worth having if you like this sort of off-kilter aggression.

Three stars is a conservative rating. If i had my druthers, I'd probably rate it 3.75.
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1 of 3 people found the following review helpful By John Doe on April 23, 2006
Format: Audio CD
It's so frustrating when such talented musicians make such underachieving music. I had high expectations for this album (perhaps unfairly so) but Pain Necessary to Know falls way below them.

Ephel Duath have clearly demonstrated their intent to produce a full-on jazz metal assault. The Dillinger Escape Plan comparison is unavoidable. The album is characterised by dissonant rhythms and jarring riffs. And herein lies the problem. Davide Tiso appears to have paid little attention to the flow of songs - those intangible qualities like atmosphere and mood are non-existent. The songs seem utterly aimless and random, even for jazz standards.

The loss of Davide Tolomei's clean vocals don't help. Luciano Lorusso George is quite possibly the worst vocalist in metal. His atonal screams not only fail to add to the music, they actually ruin it. My favourite Ephel Duath song, from Painter's Palette, is called Praha. There's two reasons for this - firstly, it's instrumental so I don't have to listen to Neanderthal shrieking. And secondly, it flows. It sets a mood, and explores an idea, whilst maintaining the jazzy shifts and integrity of the musicianship. Learn from this Ephel Duath!

They also appear better at the mellow stuff than the heavy stuff. That is evident on their last two albums (their first, Phormula was brilliant, but was essentially black metal and can't be compared to anything they've done since).

So: lose the vocalist, write some SONGS instead of just random music and return to the Ephel Duath I used to love.

Three stars only because the bass and drums are incredible.
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