285 of 293 people found the following review helpful
on September 12, 2014
Lot's of confusion about "codes" so I put a chart up explaining the difference.
Standard Eneloop models:
1st Generation Eneloop model numbers and specs
AAA: HR-4UTG 1000cycles Rated 800mAh. Min. 750mAh
....AA: HR-3UTG 1000cycles Rated 2,000mAh. Min. 1,900mAh
.......C: HR-2UTG 1000cycles Rated 3,200mAh. Min. 3,000mAh
.......D: HR-1UTG 1000cycles Rated 6,000mAh. Min. 5,700mAh
2nd Generation Eneloop model numbers and specs
AAA: HR-4UTGA 1500cycles Rated 800mAh. Min. 750mAh
...AA: HR-3UTGA 1500cycles Rated 2,000mAh. Min. 1,900mAh
3rd Generation Eneloop model numbers and specs
AAA: HR-4UTGB 1800cycles Rated 800mAh. Min 750mAh
...AA: HR-3UTGB 1800cycles Rated 2,000mAh. Min 1,900mAh
4th Generation Eneloop model numbers and specs
AAA: BK-4MCC 2100cycels Min. 750mAh
...AA: BK-3MCC 2100cycels Min.1900mAh
......C: BK-2MGC 1000cycles Min.3000mAh
......D: BK-1MGC 1000cycles Min.5700mAh
1=D 2=C 3=AA 4=AAA
I just ordered these and got the 4th gen!!!!
478 of 513 people found the following review helpful
Summary: Eneloop are the gold standard in LSD Batteries, and they are now that much better...If you don't know what an LSD battery is, you should find out.
LSD= Low Self Discharge. Some companies call them "Pre-charged," but it's the same thing.
I've been a fan of rechargables since the 70's when my father had a bunch of GE Nicad cells which had capacity of perhaps 400 mAH. Nicads had so much more punch than alkaline batteries. For years and years I kept chasing the performance promise of higher capacity, 1200 mAH, 1400mAH, 1800mAH, 2100 mAH, 2300 mAH, 2500 mAH!!! 2650mAH!!!!!
Well, I ended up having all sorts of problems with the 2500 and 2650. It turns out that, besides a slightly larger diameter case which caused fit problems in some devices, they also had horrendous self- discharge. Easily half the charge was gone in a month, and in 2-3 months they were often dead.
After finding out about Eneloops (Sanyo Eneloop was the original LSD battery chemistry: Panasonic = Sanyo = Eneloop after Sanyo was bought out by Panasonic), I've phased over - perhaps 80% of my rechargeables are now LSD. The earlier LSD were 2000 mAH, as are these. These newer ones are good for 2100 cycles. Note that there is an alternate type of eneloop "XX" that give you 2500 mAH, but they are supposedly only good for 500 cycles. 500 cycles isn't bad though - even if you were to recharge them once a week you would still get 10 years... I've had good luck with other brands of LSD - Duracell Precharged and Amazonbasics White (The Amazonbasics black are made in China, the white ones are made in Japan and believed to be made by Panasonic)
Brief history of rechargeable batteries: In the beginning there was NiCad and all was good, but people found that the cells of Nicad had memory and that was bad. So then there were the cells of NiMH which could store more power than Nicad and had no memory, and that was good.
But these cells of NiMH also lost charge (self-discharge) fairly quickly, so that in a few months they were dead, and this was almost worse than memory. Alas, the men were angry and the women lamenting "Why have the electrons of NiMH abandoned us?
Then the prophet Sanyo came and said "I have made a NiMH cell that has a very low self discharge and I will give it a name like no other. I will call it ENELOOP"
And all the people said "Huh?" for the name was goofy in addition to being like no other. But soon the land was filled with celebration as they found that these batteries would hold their charge for months, even as long as a year!
The latest Eneloops recharge 1500 times, the earlier, 1000. Assuming you charge them every other day, that's 5-1/2 years for the older ones, over 8 years for the "Eneloop 1500" Other people rebrand Eneloop as their own (Most of the Duracell "pre-charged" appear to be Eneloop) but I still prefer the original - especially as the price isn't that much less for the other brands.
If you have questions or comments, or if you found this review helpful, please let me know!
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
This is the pinnacle of rechargeable AA and AAA batteries. These fourth generation eneloop 2100 batteries give performance that not only exceeds all other NiMH cells, but exceeds disposable alkaline cells as well. With a high capacity and extremely long service life, the eneloop 2100 can save you a ton of money, while also saving the environment from a ton of waste. We all need batteries, but if you want THE battery that will give you the best performance and long-term cost effectiveness, then this eneloop 4th generation 2100 is THE battery you want. It is THE battery that will perform. It is THE battery that will last.
A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME---OLDER NiMH BATTERIES VERSUS TODAY'S NiMH BATTERIES
These are NOT the rechargeable batteries you may remember from years past. Historically, rechargeable AA, AAA, C, D, etc. batteries have not been super practical. They did not last nearly as long as disposable alkaline, had a short service life, had terrible issues with memory, took 15+ hours to charge, quickly shrank in capacity, quickly self-discharged and were very expensive. They also did not work well in high-drain devices, and worked even worse with low-drain devices due to rapid self-discharge. In other terms, the practicality was limited and rechargeable batteries did not work well in many of our most common devices. And they got kind of a negative reputation due to this.
But oh how things have changed! Second, third, and now fourth generation NiMH technology has changed everything. Energy density is much greater. Memory is gone. Charging is rapid. Service life has gone from the low hundreds to the thousands of cycles. Self-discharge has all but been eliminated. And now NiMH works especially well in high-drain devices, in many cases lasting LONGER than premium alkaline batteries. In other terms, today's rechargeable NiMH batteries are more practical than alkaline batteries, and far more economical. At the forefront of NiMH technology is Sanyo, with their eneloop brand.
ENELOOP (SANYO) -- THE INDUSTRY LEADER OF NiMH TECHNOLOGY
Eneloop (Sanyo, so technically Panasonic) is generally agreed upon to be the golden standard of NiMH technology. Their third generation NiMH batteries (often called the "eneloop 1800") were hands-down the best rechargeable cells on the market. Then they had to go improve it even more. These fourth generation cells (often called the "eneloop 2100") are amazing. Over the past 5 years of reviews, I've noted that most people benefit from rechargeable batteries, but not everyone. These fourth generation eneloop 2100's change that: everyone will benefit from these batteries. They are robust, have excellent capacity, and perform well in high-drain devices. Where these new batteries improve the most is with low-drain devices because self-discharge is so low that these give just as much run time as alkaline on even super low-drain apps (ex: clocks.) While these are among the more expensive of NiMH offerings, the higher capacity and longer service life of the fourth generation eneloop 2100 will save you significant money over cheaper NiMH cells in the long run.
ABOUT THE FOURTH GENERATION ENELOOP 2100 AA
These batteries are 2,000 mAh fourth generation rechargeable NiMH AAs, with an advertised service life of up to 2,100 cycles. Unlike many other brands I have used, Sanyo does not overrate their batteries. They guarantee the minimum capacity to be 1,900 mAh, and their batteries are consistently close to 2,000 mAh (by comparison, I have Tenergy and Duracell NiMH cells advertised to be 2,500 mAh but with an actual capacity of under 1,750 mAh.) This consistency in capacity translates to consistency in performance, as User Reviews of eneloop products clearly reflect.
Eneloops are praised not only for having a long service life, but also for holding a high capacity throughout this service life. Eneloop states the service life of these to be up to 2,100 cycles and I believe it. My second generation eneloops have at least 600 cycles on them and still push 85%+ original capacity. My third generation eneloops have a few hundred cycles on them and still push almost 100% original capacity. Most NiMH batteries can't do this.
These batteries improve from ultra-low self-discharge to ULTRA-ULTRA-low self-discharge. That is, you can charge these up and they can sit in storage for years and still keep a usable charge. Advertised as maintaining at least 70% of their charge at the 5 year mark, these practically hold their charge as well as disposable batteries. This makes the eneloop 2100 extremely practical for ultra low-drain applications that NiMH cells have historically not worked well with. Despite being suitable for these very low drain applications, these deliver equally impressive performance with high-drain applications, such as usage in a high-output flashlight. This ability to excel in both low- and high-drain applications makes the eneloop 2100 the most versatile NiMH battery ever made.
Unlike older NiMH cells, these eneloops are not picky when it comes to temperature. Capable of operating in lower and higher temps, these fourth generation cells can operate down to -4 degrees. So unlike older NiMH cells, you can put these in a flashlight you leave in the car and the battery will still perform even if exposed to temperature extremes.
Like other NiMH cells, these have a native voltage of 1.2v (which is lower than their top-off charge voltage.) With almost all modern devices, this does not cause any functional issues.
THE ENELOOP 2100 (for all applications) VERSUS THE ENELOOP PRO (for high-drain applications, formally called the XX)
Eneloop has historically had two different lines: a standard/general-use NiMH battery and a high-performance NiMH battery for high-drain applications. The current fourth generation offering is the eneloop 2100 (this battery, for general-use) and the eneloop Pro (for high-performance, high-drain.) With the previous third generation, this was the eneloop 1800 (general-use) and the eneloop XX (high-performance.)
The eneloop Pro is a very different type of battery than the 2100. The 2100 is a general-purpose battery that will work in almost all situations. The eneloop Pro is designed only for usage with extremely high-drain devices, and with normal and low-drain devices, it will not perform nearly as well as the eneloop 2100. The Pro has a higher 2550 mAh capacity, but only a 500 cycle lifespan. It also self-discharges more rapidly than the 2100: the eneloop Pro will discharge more in one year than the eneloop 2100 will in four years.
This new eneloop 2100 is a VERY capable battery and it performs well in most high-drain applications as it is. It does considerably better with high-drain applications than the previous third generation eneloop 1800, which means these fourth generation eneloop 2100's may work well in your higher-drain device even if the eneloop 1800 did not. With a lower price, a longer service life, and lower self-discharge rate, this 2100 is more suitable for the large majority of applications, and the eneloop Pro is best used only in limited applications with devices that are unusually hard on batteries.
These batteries require a charger that is capable of charging NiMH batteries. NiMH chargers are not generational specific (that is, the Sanyo charger you may have purchased with the third generation eneloop 1800's will charge these new fourth generation eneloop 2100's, and a charger sold with these new generation eneloop 2100's will charge eneloops of older generations.) Unless otherwise noted as being capable of charging different chemistries and/or different voltages, NiMH chargers should not be used to charge batteries of other chemistries (such as NiCad, LiFePO4, or LiMn, for example.)
I have found that a good-quality charger plays a big role in getting the best performance and your money's worth with rechargeable batteries, plus it gives an added safety factor. A quality charger can inform you about battery health, capacity, and charge in a fashion that attempts to maximize service life. I also have found that the very cheap super-rapid-chargers tend to decrease battery capacity and service life, and so I would advise against them. In fact, a poor-quality super-rapid charger is probably the only thing that would harm these robust eneloops. As eneloops are not the cheapest NiMH batteries, a good charger will ensure you get the best performance and maximum useful service life from your investment.
The Sanyo-branded chargers that come with some of these lots are great products. However, if you are purchasing a charger separately, I recommend considering one of the intelligent chargers that can charge batteries of different chemistries/voltages. Lithium cells have incredible energy density & are lightweight...the same lithium cell I use in my eCigerette is used to power Tesla vehicles! In the future I think we are going to see more consumer devices that use lithium cells, and so having a good quality charger that can charge both lithium and NiMH is a plus. I own a NiteCore IntelliCharger D4 that does NiCad, NiMH, LiFePO4, and LiMn/LiCo; it is one of numerous chargers praised for its performance and safety record. This has me covered for these eneloops, plus my IMR and ICR lithium cells for my eCig, plus my LiFePO4 cells for a flashlight. So this type of charger may be worth consideration.
Eneloop's 4th generation NiMH rechargeable batteries will save you money & resources over disposable batteries, while increasing practicality & performance. These new fourth generation eneloop 2100's are the most versatile NiMH batteries made, and given they excel in both low and high drain applications, this means you can use these for virtually any need you may have. With that kind of flexibility, they run circles around other NiMH cells, and are by far the best pick for ultra low-drain applications due to an incredibly low self-discharge rate. While the initial purchase price of these are higher than other NiMH cells, the high capacity and long service life will make these less expensive to own in the long run. These batteries are fantastic and worth every penny. They will serve you well for many years and save you quite a lot of money. I highly recommend them.