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32 of 33 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Definitive account.,
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This review is from: Passchendaele: The Untold Story (Hardcover)
Passchendaele, or Third Ypres, a four-month battle
with nearly a half-million casualties, is an enduring
symbol of the futility of war, and specifically the
old style with masses of infantry hurled at solid
defensive positions.Just one more crack at them. just one great push and surely the great breakthrough will occur. Never mind the appalling rain and mud which made movement nearly impossible, never mind the impossibility of even massed artillery destroying the enemy positions, and especially never mind the butchers bill. Prior and Wilson's new research sheds new light on this hard-to-understand battle, especially on the dithering which allowed the slaughter to continue, even when it was becoming apparent that it was for naught. If the reputations of generals and politicians went down into the mud with the blood of the troops, it is only just. (The numerical rating is a default setting within Amazon's format. This reviewer does not employ numerical ratings.)
36 of 40 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Eye opener, Highly readable and top notch scholarship,
By Lachlan Cranswick (Daresbury, England) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Passchendaele: The Untold Story (Paperback)
Unlike the usual dross (though still readable) that many WWI history books are like, this is an amazingly good book.The authors have obviously done their background work using the primary sources to an extent that to the reader, they convincingly break several WWI myths as routinely stated in many WWI history books. The first being about Battles of Attrition; making it clear the aims of the Generals in the various battles had solid strategic objectives that they were trying to gain. The Attrition excuse being made after the event to try and make a failed battle sound like a victory of sorts. Tanks were not a war winning weapon in WWI, but of importance for supporting the infantry (tanks being highly vunerable to artillary. The argument by the authors is that artillary was the WWI winning weapon on the Western Front. The main eye opener (for me at least) was the primary importance of artillary and evolving role and technology of the artilliary which had developed (high accuracy continuous correction shelling, counter battery, creeping barrage) to the point by 1917 that potentially, the British could break the German lines on the Western Front to a limited extend, and with limited casualties. However the hankering by Haig for a Breakthrough (and continous belief that one more push would demolish the morale of the German Army) helped lead "inadvertantly" to another attrition style battle. Overall, well worth buying and hopefully setting the standard that future WWI histories will be written to.
14 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
outstanding,
This review is from: Passchendaele: The Untold Story (Paperback)
There"s not to much to add from the other reviews I think. This is a highly readable book. Much can be said of a operation that lasted 3 months at such a terrible cost and then give up what you gained in only 3 days! The book also points the finger of blame not just on Plummer, Haig, and Gough but also the war cabinat overseen by Loyd George and Robertson. A must read for those who never understood the campaigne.
10 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
While full of good information.....,
By debeehr "debeehr" (Illinois, USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Passchendaele: The Untold Story, Second edition (Paperback)
...I found this book to be rather dry and difficult to get into. Of course I was looking for something a little more basic. This book might be best for someone who already has some knowledge of the battle and wants to expand on it, rather than as an introduction.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Very Accurate and Very Dry,
By Lampwick of Beeswax "lampwick_of_beeswax" (the poop deck of the SS Flern) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Passchendaele: The Untold Story, Second edition (Paperback)
This book was not written to entertain. I has all the excitement of a coroner's report. Having said that, Pryor and Wilson have, in my opinion, established themselves as the pre-eminent historians on the actions of the Western Front of WW1.
The military history is liberally interlaced with British, and to a lesser extent, German home-front politics surrounding the battle. Much of this narrative revolves around the mutual dislike of Lloyd George (PM) and Haig, who was usually misinformed or misleading about the successes of the BEF in Flanders. The military aspect of the battle is told in a very matter-of-fact style, beginning with a description of the minor BEF successes at Vimy and Messines. The main battle then begins and the German defense system initially proves impenetable. General Plumer learns to compensate for the flexible German defense to some degree, but the weather then intervenes and a smaller but more competently led German army exacts its toll on the British. Wilson and Pryor estimate respective casualties at 200,000 German and 325,000 Allied. Inerestingly, Ernst Junger describes his experiences in this battle as a company commander as not a coordinated series of actions but a completely disjointed melee of confusion and isolation without benefit of support from the high command.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Third Ypres Strategy,
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This review is from: Passchendaele: The Untold Story, Second edition (Paperback)
This book is an excellent account of the battles of the Third Ypres campaign, the strategy and politics surrounding it. The book provides a balanced view of options, causes and effects present before during and after the campaign. It is a must for historians and serious WW1 buffs.
I must stress that this book is very much on a macro level and focusses on battles and campaigns at an Army, Corps and Divisional level. It rarely gets below Division except to point out the difficulties being faced by soldiers. It is not a front line personal account but a well detailed history of the campaign. Personally, I think these authors were too easy on Haig. A commander that has five divisions of cavalry just behind the front, ready for a breakthrough to cross a No Man's Land on horseback in mud men could barely stand in. Five divisions going nowhere, consuming rations, wasting logistics. Haig had much to answer for.
5 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Excellent account of a pointless campaign,
By M. R. Pachankis (Shreveport, LA United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Passchendaele: The Untold Story (Paperback)
This book tells how British General Haig threw thousands of his own men through mud in fruitless assaults on the German trenches. It tells in great detail how many lives were lost for how little ground taken and how the British General staff could not devise any new ways to fight and ignored the losses. It is an excellent book for anyone interested in military history or even psychology.
7 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Blooody campaign, bloody Haig,
By Devl's Advocate "RSHA" (Hölle) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Passchendaele: The Untold Story, Second edition (Paperback)
Quite a good expose of the limitations of Haig as a general, insensitive, uncaring, obstinate and incompetent, a farce of a man if not for the tragedy of tens of thousands lives wasted by his idiotic tactics.
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Passchendaele: The Untold Story by Robin Prior (Paperback - January 21, 1998)
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