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Patience With God: Faith for People Who Don't Like Religion (or Atheism) Paperback – October 26, 2010
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In 1962 I studied the Bible and had theological discussions with Frank's father Francis, and his mother Edith, and didn't think to ask young Frank's views on such matters.
In 2009 I am a 67 year-old Presbyterian Church (USA) minister, who finds himself resonating more strongly with Frank's views of life and matters of faith, than with the harsh Fundamentalism that was espoused by Frank's parents (and mine). Thus I have found his books "Crazy for God," and "Patience with God" to be inspirational manifestos which reflect the human capacity to speak the truth in love regarding the limitations of our "rearing," and to promote what are hopefully healthier, and more gracious images of faith and life. I admire Frank's ability to express profound love for his parents, while acknowledging their shortcomings when it came to their lack of attention to his own education and development.
"Patience with God" breaks new ground in pointing out that the "new atheism" represents every bit as much of a tendency to be "fundamentalist" as any restrictive religious point of view.Read more ›
Sadly, many readers (particularly those who know his parents' books and teachings) will look for reasons to discount the ideas in "Patience With God." This is not a book to be held up like a battle herald for believers or atheists. It's an attempt--and a very good one--to bridge the gap between spirit and mind, between theology and science, between purpose and progression. Yes, Frank is candid about his parents' shortcomings, both domestically and spiritually, but he is equally candid about his own. He pulls no punches. He points fingers at those on both sides of the fence, but in particular those who claim to know it all--whether they be right-wing fundamentalists or the atheistic, self-proclaimed "Brights." Over the years, I've found myself struggling to reconcile the mostly good-intentioned but poor behavior of both sides. I appreciated some of Pat Robertson's early ideas, for example, but cringed when he put himself in the place of God and declared God's purposes in natural tragedy. I also appreciated Bill Maher's early years of candor and humor, but find it increasingly mean-spirited and--ironically enough--narrowminded in its accessment of religion.
Do I agree with all that Frank says here? No. And he and I are fine with that. We could sit and discuss these ideas logically, even passionately, but never lose sight of our love for God, life, and each other. That's the beauty of embracing the paradoxes of which he writes.Read more ›
In his last book, Crazy for God: How I Grew Up as One of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right, and Lived to Take All (or Almost All) of It Back, Schaeffer pulls no punches as he puts pen to paper in describing his religious journey in his famous, Christian family. It was shocking to some, frustrating to others and was possibly seen as fuel to those who make it their pastime to denounce Christianity. I found his narrative valuable and worth reading. I wish more people had actually read his book instead of just only talking about it.
In his new book Schaeffer turns his eagle-eyed gaze from his religious past and focuses on the New Atheists- Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris & Dennett. The first six chapters will be used in Christian universities across the nation as Schaeffer picks apart the atheists' own religious stands and intolerance. But just in case the evangelical Christians celebrate too much in the spanking being given to the atheists, Schaeffer uses to the following two chapters to put a couple of sharp, stinging whacks across the backsides of some of today's popular Christian leaders and their fear-based teachings that produce hate, hypocrisy and intolerance.
Schaeffer expends most of his angst in the first half of the book; in the second he settles in to share what he sees could be a living middle-ground, a place where people can journey together in peace, energized by love. He writes using stirring stories from his past and his present, showing that there were some really good things he hasn't let go of and that there is still room to evolve, in love.
Frank Schaeffer is a thoughtful and talented writer and I'm glad that he continues to share his journey with us.
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Good to see a believer that thinks! Without judgement. Was a "new" Christian when I learned of the senior Shaeffers. Read morePublished 15 months ago by N. Diann Bennett-Reyes
As a recovering Baptist/Catholic, who's explored a bunch of religions, and sometimes feels atheistic but is really an agnostic who prays, I find Frank Schaeffer's books really... Read morePublished 16 months ago by Amazon Customer
Between atheism and evangelicalism exists a mysterious unaffiliated faith, so well recommended in this book, that humbly accepts the possibility of God without arrogantly... Read morePublished 16 months ago by Ben Schnell
Thanks for your honest take on Churchianity and all the crap that goes with it.Published 18 months ago by Mothlove
I don't agree with everything Frank says, but I thoroughly enjoy his writing. As an ex-fundamentalist I relate very closely with so much of what he has gone through, and I... Read morePublished 18 months ago by kay shelton
Very frank and honest book. A bit superficial in spots, but there is no doubt that the author is seeking the truth and is actually using his God given brain. Read morePublished 19 months ago by Truthseeker