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16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Wellington's Finest Humbled
Many people will recognize Winston Groom as the creator of "Forrest Gump." But Groom is also an accomplished chronicler of military history, and here he applies his considerable narrative talents to the climactic engagement of the War of 1812, the Battle of New Orleans.

Sadly, many Americans have little or no knowledge of this epic battle, one of the most...
Published on June 3, 2006 by Steve Iaco

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2.0 out of 5 stars Inaccuracies Ruin a Good Story-telling
I really enjoyed Winston's Groom "A Storm in Flanders" which told a remarkable story about WWI combat. So I looked forward to reading this book. While Groom is excellent at telling a story, I was saddened by the many inaccuracies and sloppy fact-checking in "Patriotic Fire."

To begin with, Groom takes the point of view of many American writers on the War of...
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16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Wellington's Finest Humbled, June 3, 2006
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Steve Iaco (northern new jersey) - See all my reviews
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Many people will recognize Winston Groom as the creator of "Forrest Gump." But Groom is also an accomplished chronicler of military history, and here he applies his considerable narrative talents to the climactic engagement of the War of 1812, the Battle of New Orleans.

Sadly, many Americans have little or no knowledge of this epic battle, one of the most consequential and lopsided victories in U.S. history. Andrew Jackson and a polyglot band of Tennessee and Kentucky "brown shirts," French Creoles, Indians, Free Men of Color (many of them refugees from the slave revolt in Haiti), Privateers, and ordinary New Orleans citizens did not just repulse a vastly superior force of British invaders. They decimated Wellington's Finest, fresh off their victory over Napoleon. The British suffered some 3,750 casualties, including 850 killed, as compared with 55 Americans killed and 333 total casualties. Included among the 850 was Wellington's brother-in-law, General Sir Edward Pakenham, overall commander of the British ground forces. Pakenham, whose remains were shipped back to England preserved in a vat of rum, inherited a bad strategic situation and, Grooms says, made it worse.

Groom maintains there may never have been a New Orleans victory -or thus a Jackson Presidency - without Jean Laffite and his Privateers from the island of Barataria. Rejecting British offers of cash and bounty, the Baratarians provided the Americans with desperately needed munitions, especially gunpowder; an intimate familiarity with the terrain and waterways leading to New Orleans; and a skill in handling artillery that may have been decisive. What's more, it was Laffite who convinced Jackson to strength and extend his left line, prescient counsel that helped to thwart the British attack plan. Overall, Groom says, the Baratarians' contributions to victory "were substantial, if not crucial."

The New Orleans triumph came at a time of extreme peril for the young nation. To that point, The War of 1812 had largely been a series of ignominious setbacks or worse, punctuated by the torching of the nation's capital. Secessionist fever gripped New England. And the British invasion of New Orleans was clearly the first move in a land grab designed to cut the U.S. in half. None of this transpired, thanks to the stalwart defense of New Orleans mounted by Jackson, Laffite and their compatriots. This is a terrific story of patriotism and heroism, which Groom recoounts masterfully. A very worthwhile read.
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12 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Inaccuracies Ruin a Good Story-telling, January 23, 2009
I really enjoyed Winston's Groom "A Storm in Flanders" which told a remarkable story about WWI combat. So I looked forward to reading this book. While Groom is excellent at telling a story, I was saddened by the many inaccuracies and sloppy fact-checking in "Patriotic Fire."

To begin with, Groom takes the point of view of many American writers on the War of 1812; that the English resented our independence and wanted to crush democracy. This is not true and there is no evidence that this was English policy. WE (America) started the war, partly because of England's impressment policy, and partly because western Americans wanted to conquer Canada. England spent most of the war fighting defensively to save Canada from OUR invasion. After Napoleon's first abdication in 1814, England was able to turn to an offensive war, but even then their policy was muddled and without direction. Mostly, they were looking for a way to get out of the war, as the English treasury was broke after years of fighting France. Their attempts to invade America were an effort to gain leverage in diplomatic negotiations, which were concluded before the Battle of New Orleans was fought.

Also, he indicates that the English were disconcerted by the American style of combat, because they were used to fighting "European style." This is the "minutemen vs. redcoats" stereotype of history. What he overlooks is that the English army in New Orleans included elements of the Light Brigade, who were trained to skirmish and fight "Indian style." So this type of war was not unfamilar to the English. Also, much of the English army had fought in the Peninsular War, which as the first guerilla war saw barbarism equal to anything on the American frontier.

There are also numerous small inaccuracies, while no big deal individually, add up to sloppy fact checkimg. Some of these are: The American navy only had "small frigates" (Our frigates were "heavy" frigates and were larger than any other frigates in the world), the 95th Rifles wore "bright green" jackets (They wore dark green, almost black jackets, an early form of camouflage) and that William Surtess was quartermaster in the 85th regiment (He was in the Rifles, the 95th regiment.)

The plus side of the book is it gives Jean LaFitte and the Baritarians long overdue praise for their role in the battle (Although he really stretches the point when he calls them privateers. Most historians consider them out and out pirates.) And he is very fair in his treatment of Jackson, praising him for his leadership, but damning him for his execution of the Tennessee "deserters."

One point he mentions towards the end of the book was the real key to the battle. Namely that it is extremely difficult for any troops, no matter how skilled, to take well-entrenched positions through frontal attacks. This was to be shown again in the Crimea at the Malakoff, in America at Gettysburg and Cold Harbor, and throughout WWI. While the Battle of New Orleans made Jackson a national hero and boosted America's self-image, its lessons were not learned.
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9 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Enough to prove the short-sightedness of human hope and human prudence, August 5, 2006
The War of 1812 is one of the American conflicts that is less well known to the general public. Beyond the White House being burned, the composition of "The Star Spangled Banner" as the British assaulted Fort McHenry at Baltimore, and some vague notions of the Battle of New Orleans (and that from the pop song from 1959 by Jimmy Driftwood and sung by Johnny Horton), it doesn't hold much of a place in our already too weak sense of our own history.

This well written popular history of the battle by Winston Groom will help anyone who is not already a scholar on the subject, learn more about the famous Battle of New Orleans, what was really at stake, the great leadership of Andrew Jackson, the vital contributions of Jean Laffite and his Baratarian privateers (well, pirates), and the strength of the British that was squandered by the mistakes of the British officers.

Groom provides a nice background of the life of Andrew Jackson and the political context that led to the War of 1812 (and the stupidity of the political leaders on both sides) and how the Indian war led by Tecumseh contributed to Jackson and his army being where they were to thwart the British in late 1814 and early 1815. The life of Jean Laffite is also told in what detail we know. The author does a nice job in letting us know when there are different points of view and varying claims about the biographies of Jackson, Lafitte, and the forces in the battle.

On paper, the battle should have gone the vast resources the British brought to the battle. A huge number of ships, thousands upon thousands of professional soldiers, tons of gunpowder, cannon, and shell, and confidence born of success in battle in Europe. The Americans were a ragged bunch; mostly militia that were under equipped and with almost no clothes. Yet Jackson had them build a huge rampart that British delays allowed them to strengthen. The Baratarians provided the Americans with much needed supplies and were experts with cannon.

The British were also unable to adapt to the unprofessional style of fighting of the Americans and were demoralized that their enemies would fight according to European rules. Truly the British accomplished some difficult tasks to bring such a vast army and its resources to such a difficult point to fight, but the Americans were fighting for their native soil. The delays and mistakes and miscommunications led the British to defeat. When you go to all the trouble of building ladders and tools to scale the rampart, but leave them behind when you go to fight, well, you actually deserve to lose.

One of the aspects of the War of 1812 that rhymes with our present fighting is that press from New York and Boston was strongly against the war and the administration that waged it. The war was labelled "Mr. Madison's War" and there was strong talk of the New England states seceding from the Union. George Cabot, a U.S. Senator from Massachusetts(!)and presiding officer of the Hartford Convention, branded the war as unjust and morally wrong (page 165). Does this sound familiar? The Hartford, Connecticut Courant had a headline that said, "Secession!". When Andrew Jackson heard of this he said, "I would hang them all." How things stay the same despite the turns of history.

What is especially interesting is that the main part of The Battle of New Orleans occurred on January 8, 1815. However the treaty of Ghent, ending the War of 1812 was signed on December 24, 1814. The battle took place because it took a significant period of time to bring the news to the United States and then to the Gulf Coast. A significant battle was fought at Mobile even after New Orleans.

Even so, one might be tempted to think that if the British had won the battle they would have had to return it to America. Not likely. The British rejected the legality of the Louisiana Purchase because they did not recognized Napoleon as the legitimate leader of France. So, if the British had won New Orleans, even after the treaty was signed, they would have been loath to return it and would certainly kept any plunder. Many think that it was the riches in New Orleans that led Admiral Cochrane to undertake such a risky and difficult assault.

The last chapter tells us in brief what life held in store for the principles of this important and historic battle. We even get a summary of The Calamity where Jackson allowed six men to be executed for desertion. This harsh act almost undid his ambitions to become President of the United States. Groom shows us why the executions were not only cruel, but an absurd mistake.

There are also good maps and some fine pictures letting us see some of the action as it was recorded and even as it was fancifully imagined later. Groom also provides us with some notes about the sources and the choices he had to make in telling the history.

I found this book to be quite enjoyable, informative, and an all around good read.
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7 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Very readable, May 29, 2006
An excellent account of an important chapter in the early history of our great nation. Very well written and most enjoyable to read.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Better-than-average history by a non-historian, June 7, 2007
Any new book or article about pirate/privateer/smuggler/slave-dealer/war hero Jean Laffite (or Lafitte) is always a guaranteed draw here in Louisiana. It's also guaranteed to start an argument. Was he a Good Guy or a Bad Guy, or both? Where and when was he born? What's the truth about his career before 1814? How important, really, was his role in the Battle of New Orleans? Was he cheated out of his due after the battle? When and where did he die? Does he have living descendants? And what about all that buried treasure? (Every time we run a Laffite article in THE LOUISIANA GENEALOGICAL REGISTER, I can expect at least a dozen emails from readers with strong opinions one way or the other on several of these questions.) Groom is a novelist (probably best known for _Forrest Gump_) and nonacademic historian whose _Conversations with the Enemy_ was a Pulitzer Prize finalist. In fact, he makes no claim to academic credentials. Except for a relatively brief treatment very early and very late in the book, he ignores most of the controversies surrounding Laffite's personal life, or only summarizes them without drawing his own conclusions. He's much more interested in the adventure story of the battle itself and in how Jackson's success against the Choctaw and Creek a short time before led to his being given command of American forces in New Orleans. The battle is often described as "pointless," since a peace treaty had already been signed -- but does anyone think the British would have given up New Orleans and their control of the Mississippi if they had won the battle? Groom certainly doesn't. He also examines the "cozy arrangement" that Laffite's Baratarians had with many of the ordinary citizens of the city (willing participants at their public auctions of booty), the antipathy of Gov. Claiborne notwithstanding. Groom, who is primarily a storyteller, does a competent job of untangling the conflicting first-person accounts of the British invasion and defeat, though he depends entirely on secondary research. His descriptions of both military actions and the personalities of the participants are striking, and his parceling out of praise and blame on both sides is evenhanded. Frank Owsley's _Struggle for the Gulf: The Creek War and the Battle for New Orleans_ is still the standard academic treatment and Walter Lord's _Dawn's Early Light_ is still the best popular account, in my opinion, but this volume is certainly an enjoyable read.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A 5-star read for its research and detail--and a good story, May 16, 2007
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America stands on the brink of extinction, Maine has all but seceded from the Union, Washington D.C. has been sacked and lies in ruins, an amphibious invasion force has made its way around Florida and is in the Gulf of Mexico. Where it will land and continue to punish America, no one knows. There are only two men and one army left in the south that can take the field against overwhelming odds--a crotchety old Indian fighter named Andrew Jackson and a pirate cum privateer named Jean Lafitte.

Patriotic Fire is not a novel about some future war with an as yet unknown foe. It is in my estimation, the best and most thoroughly researched documentation of the events that led up to the battle that changed lives forever in the bayous south of New Orleans in the winter months of 1814.

The British, fresh from their victories over the armies of Napoleon all across the peninsular Portugal and Spain, and much of southern France, were at the time the premier land-fighting force on the face of the earth.

They found themselves in a debacle once the Admiralty and its commander on the scene, Admiral Cochrane, decided that New Orleans was the next logical target. This has become one of those moments in history--that if a single aspect of the events of this battle had not taken place--America as we know it today would be a very different place indeed.

Winston Groom has chronicled the events of the war of 1812 in such a fashion as to provide to the reader an engaging and entertaining recollection of the personalities of brawling, dueling, unbending Andrew Jackson and smuggling business man, turned patriot, Jean Laffite. He details each to such an extant that there is little you won't know about them. He provides footnotes for clarity and an index for quick reference. This is everything you want in an historical biography of the men and the places and events that make up America's "Second War of Independence."

NOTE: In 1994 Winston Groom wrote Conversations with the Enemy, nominated for a Pulitzer Prize. He also wrote Better Times Than These in 1978, but is best known for writing Forrest Gump in 1986 (and subsequent Gump books).

Armchair Interviews says: Fantastically written, funny at times, and horrific in its detail in others. Every American should know where we came from. Patriotic Fire will tell them.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars 19th Century American Patriots - Unbelievable!, September 13, 2007
Winston Groom has researched and written an incredibly entertaining and informative book about a key battle in the War of 1812.

I never knew just how tenuous the very existence of the American fraternity of states was at the turn of the 19th Century until I picked Patriotic Fire.

Truly, God puts the right men (and women) in the right place at the right points in history... as it was with Andrew Jackson, and a most unlikely ally: pirate Jean Laffite.

Together, they defend the "indefensible" city of New Orleans against the greatest superpower the world had ever known.

Fascinating. Riveting. Simply inspiring in this age of "can't do," this book will stir feelings of fire and pride in the most recalcitrant soul.

Buy this book. It's *that* good.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Good History, January 20, 2007
This is a entertaining book with lots of new information and history. I found it very passionate to the subject and compatable to my own love of this place and period of history. I really appreciate the work.

My only criticism would be of a lack of only a few details and facts in the Battle of Lake Borgne; and in at least one case of incorrect information..example; Lt. Thomas Ap Catesby Jones of 1815 did not command the CSS Virginia during the American Civil War in 1862. That would have been his nephew Lt. Catesby Roger ap Jones(1821-1877), son of Major General Roger Jones. There is so little actual detailed information on this history that the problem of contridictions is large especially when it comes to WHO fought at the Battle (seige?) of New Orleans.

I highly recommend this book.
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent telling of the Battle and those that fought there, July 17, 2006
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Mr Groom has done it again. An excellent telling of this important battle, the men involved and he details what the British endured before, during and after the battle. It shed plenty of light on the British side of the fight as well as the other key cast members: Jackson (he sure did hate the British with a passion, Jean Lafitte and company, the various militia groups and esteemed citizenry of New Orleans and elsewhere.

The savage fighting that took place before the battle and the various soldiers and their experiences were most interesting.

Well worth reading and pondering.
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7 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars EXCELLENT, May 19, 2006
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This story of the battle for New Orleans is interesting and extremely well written. It is not one of those deeply detailed scholarly works that drags on and on with details that you are not particularly interested in. Mr. Groom quickly lays out the facts of the matter. What he does best is make the historical figures in his book come alive for the reader. Andrew Jackson, no matter what his faults, truly loved the United States and was more than willing, almost eager, to risk his life for his country. And, at the battle of New Orleans, with the future of the United States at risk, a pirate/privateer named Jean Laffite took the side of Andy Jackson. The battle they fought together, alongside the people of New Orleans, is amazing.

This briskly written book will tell you about some fantastic and tragically brave people.
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