Silas Sorry you felt the need to establish this separate thread. It will be the others' loss. Hope it doesn't mean you've left the General Discussion completely.
As one of the Jackie-loving opera fans who follow these discussions - but who doesn't feel personally knowledgeable enough to contribute frequently - I will be paying close attention. Beyond that, it is exciting to me to watch your eyes, ears and mind begin to find something in operatic material that you hadn't realized was there. I went through pretty much the same thing, but it my case it happened 60 or so years ago. I was the only kid in my sphere who had that interest.
You will be in good hands with MAwriter and Diora. If I feel I can add a layman's perspective from time to time I will do so, but despite the fact that opera has been a big part of those last 60 years of my life, I never delved deeply enough into it to lay claims on being an expert. MAwriter and Diora have me totally outclassed there.
As I said in an a post yesterday or the day before, I'm liking you a lot. Here's to good posting and great reading!
@MAw Look at "classic" Jackie from AGT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVGrcy8wQHk (except for the very end) or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ar0r02FZng&feature=related She has a lip quiver & occasional chin waggle. Now compare to the Boca ND in one of the new promo vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vXRA3fKJb8 Her chin is moving more at the end. Also - i can't remember who, but one of the very 1st posters who went to the Houston concert felt it was definitely more pronounced there. It's also more present on the CFN vids. It's there on papasmurfdad's vids from Houston, but he was further away, so it's harder to see.
The chin "waggle" is supposed to be bad (as i understand it) because it wears out the muscles, & the chin should be relaxed; & it may lead to excessive vibrato later, or a "wobble." I confess excessive vibrato is one of the things i personally intensely dislike about lots of "modern" (i.e. the past 80-100 years) opera, so maybe it's just my personal hang-up, but when you listen to stars of the past like Enrico Caruso & Rosa Ponzilla/Ponselle, their vibrato was judicious & very reasonable.
Oops - should this have been on the "opera" thread??
@ MAwriter -- I have a question, what do you think of jaw vibrato. Is it the same as Jackie's chin waggle? I saw this article regarding jaw vibrato or gospel jaw. http://www.singwise.com/cgi-bin/main.pl?section=articles&doc=Vibrato&page=2
@MAw I believe you once suggested Jackie speak with Marilyn Horne because she started young. The thing is, of all the regular posters, it seems to me you are by FAR the most likely person to possibly have a way to personally contact her: you work in classical music & have a position of some responsibility (i.e., "people will take your calls"). Most of us are just a bunch of bozos.... er.... fans.