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The latest addition to the acclaimed & award winning Classic Albums series tells the story behind the making of Peter Gabriel's 1986 album So. It was Gabriel's fifth solo album and the first one to have a title (the others all having just been called Peter Gabriel ). The album spawned a number of hit singles on both sides of the Atlantic including Sledgehammer, Big Time, Don't Give Up (a duet with Kate Bush) and In Your Eyes which drove So to multi-platinum sales, the No.1 spot in the UK and No.2 in the US. So was very much an album of the MTV generation and the distinctive videos for tracks like Sledgehammer, Red Rain, Big Time and Don't Give Up were key factors in the album's success. The program features contributions from many of those involved in the making of the album and the videos including Peter Gabriel himself, co-producer Daniel Lanois, engineer Kevin Killen and musicians Jerry Marotta, Laurie Anderson, Tony Levin and Manu Katché amongst many. / Bonus Features: Over 30 minutes of additional material not included in the broadcast version.
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20 of 21 people found the following review helpful
By Khonsu
Format:Blu-ray|Amazon Verified Purchase
This is a documentary that could have been twice the length that it was because of the fact that the subject matter seems so interesting and so vital to a lot of music fans. I think that any production company or individual who is intending to put together a music documentary needs to first view the recent George Harrison film "Living in the Material World" as an example of what can be done with the format. I believe that if a person, a place, or a record album are interesting enough to have its story told on film then it should be told for all its worth. Don't cut corners, don't omit, and don't edit out whole blocks of subject matter because of time or budget "restraints". Don't sell the art, or the audience, short.
In the case of the Classic Albums take on Peter Gabriel's "So" you have yet another production from Eagle Rock/Isis Productions that leaves the viewer wanting more. There are some glaring omissions in terms of the cast of characters. Most notably a handful of musicians whose performances are a part of "So", but for whatever reason do not lend their voices to this production. They mention drummer Stewart Copeland, even going so far as isolating his part on the mixing console, but he doesn't show up in the film to talk about it. Why? Mr. Copeland is generally quite a character on camera, and "a name" as far as the Marketing department is concerned. I can't think of any other tunes where Stewart Copeland simply played his distinctive "hi hat" style, and nothing more. What was HIS take on that request? The comments and sections with the drummers Manu Katché and Jerry Marotta are pretty brief (especially Marotta), but at least they're shown on camera. So you are left wondering where is the other (more) famous drummer, Mr. Copeland, who appears to love to write books, make films, and tell stories about his experiences? Makes no sense. Next, Kate Bush. I understand that there might be a mystique and a privacy level under which Kate Bush goes about her life and her work, and if so I can certainly respect that. It seems though, that since this is not a film about Kate Bush but a film where the focus is on the tales related to this particular Classic Album, that Kate Bush would share her experience, too. Her performance on "Don't Give Up" is one of the tenderest moments on the whole album, in my opinion. It was an inspired pairing of her voice with Peter Gabriel's voice. She was in the video for the song when it was released, but she's nowhere to be found in this production. No, I can understand Dolly Parton not wanting to appear in this film (those who have seen this film will get the reference), but why no thoughts and no words from Kate Bush? To me it seems like there are parallels with some of the technology (the Fairlight, for example), and the approaches with some of the production techniques that could have been discussed but were not. I have to wonder who is conducting the interview sessions when the artists and producers are sitting at their gear? Related to that, Laurie Anderson is an interesting person, and one who again would have been able to provide insight into song writing and production approach. She has been innovative with her productions and has a great mind, but her screen time is woefully short. There is mention of the video that she and Mr. Gabriel made together for "This Is the Picture (Excellent Birds)" but where are the insights regarding the song itself? In fact, there are some songs on the "So" album that aren't discussed at all, by anyone. The songs "We Do What We're Told (Milgram's 37)" (wonderfully "odd" and one of my favorites from the album, which even appeared in a Miami Vice episode back in the day...), and "That Voice Again" are not covered in the film. Eagle Rock/Isis have done this before, too. The Classic Albums production of Rush's "Moving Pictures/2112" left out any discussion of so many of the great songs that appeared on those albums. Finally, where on earth are L. Shankar and guitarist David Rhodes? Mr. Rhodes is probably the most obvious omission. In the Classic Album production of Queen's "A Night at the Opera", both Brian May and Roger Taylor sort of gristle on the subject of their former band mate, the retired John Deacon. But at least they mention the reason as to why Mr. Deacon is not on camera discussing that Classic Album -- he's retired "from the business" and "doesn't want any part of it anymore". So, is that the case with Mr. Rhodes? Well, no. He's not retired from the business. In fact, he just finished a tour with Peter Gabriel as a band member in SUPPORT of the "So" record. He's been an integral part of the Peter Gabriel albums for a long time now. Is it that he doesn't like to appear on camera and be interviewed? Maybe, but he has appeared in most, if not all, of the Peter Gabriel concert films AND documentaries going back a number of years. Again, Mr. Rhodes being a musician, this would have been the opportunity to share in some of his unique (minimalistic, painterly) approaches to Peter Gabriel's music. His absence from this film is a hard one to figure out.
Now, David Fricke is a known journalist and authority on music, and obviously the producers of the Classic Albums series feel strongly about his insights because they keep calling him back. However, with regard to "So" wouldn't it perhaps add more to the story to have photographer Armando Gallo give his thoughts and perspective? It could be that Mr. Fricke has written articles on Peter Gabriel over the years, but Mr. Gallo has created and published several cool books on Genesis, in addition to a book on Peter Gabriel's career up through "So". Mr. Gallo being an artist and photographer has had some inside access over the years, but he too is nowhere to be found in this film. It looked as though some of Mr. Gallo's photography was included in the production of this Classic Albums release, but again there was no discussion on the Gallo images from Ashcombe house.
I also noticed that there didn't seem to be any of the people from the record label telling their tales. Where are the Geffen executives that worked with Peter Gabriel during the release of "So"? We've heard from label and marketing people before in this series, but not this time. There was some talk by other non-label people (studio assistants and also bassist Tony Levin) regarding the fact that the "So" album was THE breakthrough to bigger audiences. However, no one from "behind the scenes" who would've been responsible for helping make that breakthrough happen appears on camera to share in how it happened. It wasn't just the "Sledgehammer" video that made it happen, nor was it the fact that Peter Gabriel simply made a great album.
All in all, this was a good documentary, but not a great one. One of the saving graces of this production is that Daniel Lanois does get some screen time, and his insights and his live playing of the mixing console is a joy to see and hear.
"So" is a great album, and I just think that if you're going to take on a project with a great subject as its focus then you need to rise to the occasion and make a great documentary film that adds to the legacy. So far, Eagle Rock/Isis Productions hasn't done that with a Classic Album production. I want to think that they're getting better at it. At least we have Blu Ray releases now. I love the series, which is why I took the time to write this. The series was a great idea from the beginning and there really is nothing out there like it, but Eagle Rock/Isis needs to step it up and make it even better. They can do that by going more in depth and devoting more time and effort to the subject(s), to filling in the gaps in terms of the missing characters, and by conducting "better" interviews with the people who they do manage to get on camera. Here's to hoping that someone is listening.
In the case of the Classic Albums take on Peter Gabriel's "So" you have yet another production from Eagle Rock/Isis Productions that leaves the viewer wanting more. There are some glaring omissions in terms of the cast of characters. Most notably a handful of musicians whose performances are a part of "So", but for whatever reason do not lend their voices to this production. They mention drummer Stewart Copeland, even going so far as isolating his part on the mixing console, but he doesn't show up in the film to talk about it. Why? Mr. Copeland is generally quite a character on camera, and "a name" as far as the Marketing department is concerned. I can't think of any other tunes where Stewart Copeland simply played his distinctive "hi hat" style, and nothing more. What was HIS take on that request? The comments and sections with the drummers Manu Katché and Jerry Marotta are pretty brief (especially Marotta), but at least they're shown on camera. So you are left wondering where is the other (more) famous drummer, Mr. Copeland, who appears to love to write books, make films, and tell stories about his experiences? Makes no sense. Next, Kate Bush. I understand that there might be a mystique and a privacy level under which Kate Bush goes about her life and her work, and if so I can certainly respect that. It seems though, that since this is not a film about Kate Bush but a film where the focus is on the tales related to this particular Classic Album, that Kate Bush would share her experience, too. Her performance on "Don't Give Up" is one of the tenderest moments on the whole album, in my opinion. It was an inspired pairing of her voice with Peter Gabriel's voice. She was in the video for the song when it was released, but she's nowhere to be found in this production. No, I can understand Dolly Parton not wanting to appear in this film (those who have seen this film will get the reference), but why no thoughts and no words from Kate Bush? To me it seems like there are parallels with some of the technology (the Fairlight, for example), and the approaches with some of the production techniques that could have been discussed but were not. I have to wonder who is conducting the interview sessions when the artists and producers are sitting at their gear? Related to that, Laurie Anderson is an interesting person, and one who again would have been able to provide insight into song writing and production approach. She has been innovative with her productions and has a great mind, but her screen time is woefully short. There is mention of the video that she and Mr. Gabriel made together for "This Is the Picture (Excellent Birds)" but where are the insights regarding the song itself? In fact, there are some songs on the "So" album that aren't discussed at all, by anyone. The songs "We Do What We're Told (Milgram's 37)" (wonderfully "odd" and one of my favorites from the album, which even appeared in a Miami Vice episode back in the day...), and "That Voice Again" are not covered in the film. Eagle Rock/Isis have done this before, too. The Classic Albums production of Rush's "Moving Pictures/2112" left out any discussion of so many of the great songs that appeared on those albums. Finally, where on earth are L. Shankar and guitarist David Rhodes? Mr. Rhodes is probably the most obvious omission. In the Classic Album production of Queen's "A Night at the Opera", both Brian May and Roger Taylor sort of gristle on the subject of their former band mate, the retired John Deacon. But at least they mention the reason as to why Mr. Deacon is not on camera discussing that Classic Album -- he's retired "from the business" and "doesn't want any part of it anymore". So, is that the case with Mr. Rhodes? Well, no. He's not retired from the business. In fact, he just finished a tour with Peter Gabriel as a band member in SUPPORT of the "So" record. He's been an integral part of the Peter Gabriel albums for a long time now. Is it that he doesn't like to appear on camera and be interviewed? Maybe, but he has appeared in most, if not all, of the Peter Gabriel concert films AND documentaries going back a number of years. Again, Mr. Rhodes being a musician, this would have been the opportunity to share in some of his unique (minimalistic, painterly) approaches to Peter Gabriel's music. His absence from this film is a hard one to figure out.
Now, David Fricke is a known journalist and authority on music, and obviously the producers of the Classic Albums series feel strongly about his insights because they keep calling him back. However, with regard to "So" wouldn't it perhaps add more to the story to have photographer Armando Gallo give his thoughts and perspective? It could be that Mr. Fricke has written articles on Peter Gabriel over the years, but Mr. Gallo has created and published several cool books on Genesis, in addition to a book on Peter Gabriel's career up through "So". Mr. Gallo being an artist and photographer has had some inside access over the years, but he too is nowhere to be found in this film. It looked as though some of Mr. Gallo's photography was included in the production of this Classic Albums release, but again there was no discussion on the Gallo images from Ashcombe house.
I also noticed that there didn't seem to be any of the people from the record label telling their tales. Where are the Geffen executives that worked with Peter Gabriel during the release of "So"? We've heard from label and marketing people before in this series, but not this time. There was some talk by other non-label people (studio assistants and also bassist Tony Levin) regarding the fact that the "So" album was THE breakthrough to bigger audiences. However, no one from "behind the scenes" who would've been responsible for helping make that breakthrough happen appears on camera to share in how it happened. It wasn't just the "Sledgehammer" video that made it happen, nor was it the fact that Peter Gabriel simply made a great album.
All in all, this was a good documentary, but not a great one. One of the saving graces of this production is that Daniel Lanois does get some screen time, and his insights and his live playing of the mixing console is a joy to see and hear.
"So" is a great album, and I just think that if you're going to take on a project with a great subject as its focus then you need to rise to the occasion and make a great documentary film that adds to the legacy. So far, Eagle Rock/Isis Productions hasn't done that with a Classic Album production. I want to think that they're getting better at it. At least we have Blu Ray releases now. I love the series, which is why I took the time to write this. The series was a great idea from the beginning and there really is nothing out there like it, but Eagle Rock/Isis needs to step it up and make it even better. They can do that by going more in depth and devoting more time and effort to the subject(s), to filling in the gaps in terms of the missing characters, and by conducting "better" interviews with the people who they do manage to get on camera. Here's to hoping that someone is listening.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars
Interesting review, great footage, great interviews...but where is the Blu?
October 29, 2012
By King Lerch
Format:Blu-ray|Amazon Verified Purchase
The interviews take a great in-depth look at each song from So, from Peter, other musicians, editors, collaborators, producers, etc. In fact, I loved that there were no interviews (as is common on VH1 and every other station nowadays) from comedians and "celebrities". Someone cares what the guy from Full House thinks of Sledgehammer? Anyway, not in this review thankfully. These interviews lend great hand to the understanding of this album, and why it took a full year to complete.
There is also great footage of videos and concerts, which are essential to a review such as this. However, there is where this Blu-Ray falls flat. While the quality of the interview segments are perfect, the quality of the non-interview footage is VHS quality. I literally have better quality footage in my personal collection of this same material. Not getting better sources is corner cutting that is unacceptable when offering a Blu-Ray. While I understand this old footage won't look perfect, it was significantly below standard.
The content is 5 star...-1 for this corner cutting on non interview footage.
There is also great footage of videos and concerts, which are essential to a review such as this. However, there is where this Blu-Ray falls flat. While the quality of the interview segments are perfect, the quality of the non-interview footage is VHS quality. I literally have better quality footage in my personal collection of this same material. Not getting better sources is corner cutting that is unacceptable when offering a Blu-Ray. While I understand this old footage won't look perfect, it was significantly below standard.
The content is 5 star...-1 for this corner cutting on non interview footage.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars
The album that too over a year to produce get's "Cassic Albums" treatment; DVD has 35 minutes of bonus footage
November 12, 2012
Format:DVD
My fellow reviewer, Khonsu, has written a fairly lengthy, and detailed, review of this "episode" in the ongoing "Classic Albums" series of documentaries from Eagle Vision, each of which concentrates on the individual songs on a classic album, so I won't repeat what he has written but - hopefully - add to the info he has provided.
First, I have to admit that I like Peter Gabriel and his music but I can't say I'm a compulsive fan. I find the Classic Albums series informative and helpful since it helps me understand all the work - in this case over a year - to put a single 45-minute album together. Using new interviews with many involved in the project - most importantly the artist, the producer and the sound engineer - plus archival "music videos" to cover the album in under an hour (these were made for broadcast on VH1 before home video release), I learn a lot. The interviews, other than those noted above, depend- of course - on access to them. In this case we get Laurie Anderson, who is fairly accessible for projects she likes, but not Kate Bush. Honestly, I don't think I've ever heard a Bush interview for a documentary. And, Khonsu regrets that that no one from Gabriel's label is included. I seem to remember a guy from Geffen records making his comments.
Producer Daniel Lanois is given a lot of screen time and he is an engaging speaker.
So, I felt this volume was at least equal to the rest of the Classic Albums series.
The DVD includes four additional interview segments - totaling 35 minutes (50% more than the broadcast version) - three of which cover the songs "Sledgehammer", "Big Time" and "In Your Eyes", plus one on Gabriel's involvement in the Amnesty International concerts. And the DVDs are fairly priced.
These shows shouldn't be - as Khonsu does - to feature documentaries like "Living In A Material World". This is not a documentary about Gabriel; it's about a specific album and Lanois and the musicians are just as important as the guy on the front cover.
By the way, I watched the DVD version, not the Bluray, though I understand the contents are exactly the same.
So, I guess I'll be the first to give it five stars. It worked for me. And I always wonder what the subject of the next Classic Album will be. Guess we'll find out soon!
I hope this review was both informative and helpful.
Steve Ramm
"Anything Phonographic"
First, I have to admit that I like Peter Gabriel and his music but I can't say I'm a compulsive fan. I find the Classic Albums series informative and helpful since it helps me understand all the work - in this case over a year - to put a single 45-minute album together. Using new interviews with many involved in the project - most importantly the artist, the producer and the sound engineer - plus archival "music videos" to cover the album in under an hour (these were made for broadcast on VH1 before home video release), I learn a lot. The interviews, other than those noted above, depend- of course - on access to them. In this case we get Laurie Anderson, who is fairly accessible for projects she likes, but not Kate Bush. Honestly, I don't think I've ever heard a Bush interview for a documentary. And, Khonsu regrets that that no one from Gabriel's label is included. I seem to remember a guy from Geffen records making his comments.
Producer Daniel Lanois is given a lot of screen time and he is an engaging speaker.
So, I felt this volume was at least equal to the rest of the Classic Albums series.
The DVD includes four additional interview segments - totaling 35 minutes (50% more than the broadcast version) - three of which cover the songs "Sledgehammer", "Big Time" and "In Your Eyes", plus one on Gabriel's involvement in the Amnesty International concerts. And the DVDs are fairly priced.
These shows shouldn't be - as Khonsu does - to feature documentaries like "Living In A Material World". This is not a documentary about Gabriel; it's about a specific album and Lanois and the musicians are just as important as the guy on the front cover.
By the way, I watched the DVD version, not the Bluray, though I understand the contents are exactly the same.
So, I guess I'll be the first to give it five stars. It worked for me. And I always wonder what the subject of the next Classic Album will be. Guess we'll find out soon!
I hope this review was both informative and helpful.
Steve Ramm
"Anything Phonographic"
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