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16 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
All this talk of disease...,
By Nick (USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America (Paperback)
For everyone who is interested in this book, let it first be said that I think many people interested and involved in the deaf community would find it appaling that deafness is being treated as a "sin" or and "error" in humans. While not all people may agree with me on this point, I think it is very important to watch your comments when referring to these books. While Van Cleve uses historical analysis in his work, it fails to account for any positive deaf cultured view of the situation. Those involved in this culture will tell you that deafness is not a disease or a problem, but part of a human being, and Van Cleve fails to recognize this point, and therefore fails in any attempt to empower the Deaf Community. Whether or not this was his attempt is not as important. We all must be aware of the fact that some people are happy how they are. They dont want their deafness "treated" or "cured" becuase it can't be - it is as much a part of them as your eye color.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
The Deaf as an Ethnicity,
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This review is from: A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America (Paperback)
This is an excellent history for deaf education in the United States. It is a readable and insightful treasure of names, dates and institutions, developed against the broader canvas of world deaf education. The volume documents the development of social and political factors involved in the position of the deaf population within the broader general population in Europe and the United States.
These two scholars develop the story chronologically and thematically from the 1500s, paralleling the stages of social and industrial development in western society. They portray the attitudes and approaches to the deaf community and shine their specific spotlight on the growing consciousness of the deaf as a coherent community over the last 200 years. The Deaf were seen often as disabled and less able to learn, or were made to learn speech to enhance their interaction with the hearing community and their usefulness to the dominant hearing culture. As educational movements they contrast the development of methods in Europe and the New World. Notably, two streams focus on methods using sign language or oral-only approaches meant to establish oral fluency and lip-reading among the deaf. Sign language was initially developed in France and introduced in the American territories and modified for English. The authors detail the progress of sign language from France and its broader development in Britain by the Frenchman Clerc and its intentional crossing of the Atlantic in early institutions established in the US. This method was an early success and continued in the US. A new approach gradually gained dominance in Europe, however, focused on bringing the deaf to competency in oral speech and "speech-reading" to participate in broader society. Though this approach did not exhibit notable practical results, it came to be advocated by hearing persons involved in deaf education, and became a great adversary of sign language as a medium of communication. Advocates of the "oralism" approach wanted to enable deaf persons to "become normal" and fully participate in the broader society. In contrast, there was a strong early development and management of deaf association and services by deaf persons for themselves. Gallaudet University, whose press published the book, has a laudable history of practical deaf education and deaf advocacy in the United States. As an institution of the District of Columbia it was directly administered by Congress. The oralism movement was more popular in certain circles, notable in Nebraska, where for a period, sign language education was actually prohibited by law in any state educational institution. In Europe oralism prevailed until more recently. Gallaudet is named after a member of the venerable family who pioneered deaf education in the United States. This university is now a world leader in resources and education for the Deaf community.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America,
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This review is from: A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America (Paperback)
As a student of American Sign Language and the Deaf community I have read many books on the subject. A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Comminity in America is an excellent book in which to find details that you just don't find in many other places. It covers Deaf history, the people and places that influenced the Deaf community and the reasons for the importance of the Deaf community. This isn't a book that promotes or promises a "Utopian Deafland" it gives a realistic look at the the lives of Deaf people throughout history. As a textbook, this is an excellent learning tool for anyone. It belongs in the home of every Deaf person, every person with a Deaf family member and the home of every person that knows anyone who is Deaf. It would be a nice thing for any hearing person that doesn't know any Deaf people to help create an understanting of a community they are not likely familiar with. An excellent and easy read. I highly recommend it.
3 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Excellent book on the cultural/social history of the deaf,
By A Customer
This review is from: A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America (Paperback)
For a long time I have been searching for such book like this! It is excellent resources for the people, who are interested to learn American Sign Language, to become aware of richly deaf cultural/social history. The authors know where to find such wealthy of information, yet their writings are brevity along with several examples of where the deaf people have been interacted in order to preserve their cultural-linguistic connections. I highly recommended this book to the education and medical personnel to see how the deaf people are evidently happy with their livings without being heavily corrected on their hearing loss.
5.0 out of 5 stars
Wonderful foundational and informative book,
This review is from: A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America (Paperback)
This is one of my favorite books! It covers the history of Martha's Vineyard during the time where there was a concentrated amount of Deaf people who signed as well as hearing people who accepted deafness and communicating through sign language. If you are a history buff, Deaf Studies Major, interested in Deaf people, interested in the history of sign language, THIS is the book for you!
4.0 out of 5 stars
Interesting,
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This review is from: A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America (Paperback)
I wish this book was written as more of the commentary it is rather than a history book, but it's a good read and gives insight into Deaf history.
4.0 out of 5 stars
A must for all who study Deaf Culture,
This review is from: A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America (Paperback)
There are not a lot of resources on the history of Deaf culture but this one does the trick. Taking you from Biblical referances to present day, it is easy to read, yet thought provoking. I highly recommend it. I only give it 4 stars because, again, this is a one of a kind in its field and I hope some day there will be a more variety and a better comparison between texts.
10 of 32 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Focus on deafness, not religion,
By A Customer
This review is from: A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America (Paperback)
Once again two historians have attempted to do the job of a theologian. In the their book A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Communty in American, John Vickrey Van Cleve and Barry A. Couch attack the Judeo-Christian view of deafness from a secular and biblically uninformed point-of-view. Firstly, is their supposition, as taken from Exodus, Chapter 4:10-12, that God created deafness. God created man generic in the form of the first man, Adam. In that regard, God can be seen as the Creator of all men--the hearing, as well as the deaf--through their common ancestry in Adam. However, deafness, sickness, and disease came into the world as the result of the first man (Adam's) sin, and not due to Gods creation of the affliction. Adam, in fact, by his sin caused deafness to come into the word, and not God. God, in his sovereignty, had instructed Adam to "tend and keep the Garden of Eden", which he failed to do. When Adam chose to disobey God's directive, Evil entered the world in the form of sickness, disease, genetic defect, etc. Therefore, if the authors want to blame someone, then accuse Adam, not God. Secondly, God must be insane, by the authors' construct. I would ask the authors two questions, "If deafness is the creation of God, why then would He sent a savior, redeemer, and comforter to rid mankind of the malady? If God wanted the deaf deaf, why did He make provision for them to be healed?" (Isaiah 53; I Peter 2) The two authors rational is flawed in that they assume that God is a schizophrenic--that he creates disease so that he can sacrifice His only Son to heal mankind of something that He brought into existence in the first place. No person in their right mind would do this thing, let alone a God who is suppose to love his people. Thirdly, the authors' contention that the New Testament treats the deaf unfairly and harshly is untrue. The first and greatest Commandment of the New Testament is to "love the Lord God with all one's heart." If a Christian man who has believed in God all his life receives a heart transplant from an atheist does he, therefore, lose his salvation. No! Love and faith are spiritual things, not held capture by physical laws. "Faith that comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God" is, therefore, not based on a sensory organ, but on an open mind and heart to hear--however, that hearing might come about. (A point the two authors might well mediate on) God the Father used Jesus the Son not to condemn the deaf person as demon possessed, but to show the deaf that he had power over the Evil which caused deafness.
Finally, the word hearing (i.e., Akoe, Gk.) in the New Testament Greek text has seven different possible meanings: hearing, ears, fame, rumor, report, audience, and two miscellaneous meanings which have nothing to do with the sense of hearing. These seven meanings different are used a total of twenty-four times throughout the of the Testament and are dependent on context for their meaning. Hearing--as taken from the passage from
Romans 10 that the authors' use--means to hear and UNDERSTAND the gospel of Christ.
The word, as used in Romans, implies a spiritual meaning to that heard. Any well trained
theologian could have told them this. It is truly a same that they were not consulted before the authors wrote down their own biases and beliefs.
Steve Rosenoff, Evangelist\Pastor
1 of 25 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
First-rate work!,
By A Customer
This review is from: A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America (Paperback)
A Place of Their Own is quite a good book, really, and the authors are qualified to write on their subject matter. In regards to other reviews of this book: Sorry, but the ones accusing God of schizophrenia are not the authors, but trinitarian Christians. After all, it is trinitarian Christianity which insists that God has three distinct personalities. One of them died and was resurrected by the other. One of them prays to the other and begs the other to be saved. One of them sends another to people, one walks around on earth while the other stays in heaven. The third, I suppose, just kind of flies around being misty and mysterious. Then of course, they will insist that they really don't worship three gods, but one. They further insult the mercy of God by implying that he sent someone else (his son/his self) to die for our sins, and as long as we accept that we are saved. Tell me, why would god require a blood sacrifice as the price of salvation? We can't just repent to God and be forgiven? Someone else has to die for something I did? And let's not even get into the fact that all of humanity is supposed to be stained for something done by someone else eons ago, ...or that accepting that someone else has already paid for my sins means PARTY TIME! I can do whatever I want. A Place of Their Own is a highly readable, accessible work that presents its topic in a clear format. It isn't too long and is a good introduction to the topic. VanCleve and Crouch did a great job.
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A Place of Their Own: Creating the Deaf Community in America by John V. Van Cleve (Paperback - March 10, 1989)
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