Customer Reviews

Plone Live

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After suveying the open-source content management systems available, I chose Plone for its capability and strong peer support. I bought all of the five-star books for Plone and Zope developement and learned a lot from them.

But Plone Live really opened my eyes. It goes beyond other books in important areas and fills in details not covered by the others. Are you interested in using LDAP to keep your user logons? It is very well described in Plone Live with step-by-step instructions. Do you want to know what Archetypes are and how they are used in Plone? This is your book.

The icing on the cake is the "live" part of Plone Live. The idea of a constantly-evolving book is brilliant. How often have I bought a book that covered "version 2.3" of a product only to have it obsoleted by "version 3.0" a month or two later? The subscription to Plone Live keeps me on the edge of the Plone world and guarantees that Plone Live will have the most current information of any Plone book.

Even if you have the others, this is a must-have book.

Plone Live is one of several professionally published books on Plone. Other books include Andy McKay's The Definitive Guide to Plone, Julie Meloni's Plone Content Management Essentials, and Cameron Cooper's Building Websites With Plone. Plone Live fits into this existing ecosystem by providing information for more advanced Plone developers ready to take Plone to the next level to build highly customized, performant applications.

The introductory sections are noticeably thin but I think that is OK because books like Plone Content Management Essentials and The Definitive Guide to Plone deliver pretty well in this area. In fact, I would consider donating those chapters as Wiki articles on Plone.org so that the community can maintain and enhance them.

Plone Live starts to deliver its value beginning midway through chapter 2 with a road map of what is where in the Zope Management Interface (ZMI). Because Plone is so customizable and the ZMI is not specifically designed to manage a Plone site, it is easy to get disoriented with all the folders and other objects that need to be manipulated in order to customize and extend Plone.

The best parts of Plone Live are the sections where it discusses security and the comparative benefits of File Based vs. Through the Web (TTW) development. While most books focus primarily on TTW development, Plone Live's authors make the point that this customization method is primarily for rapid prototyping and is no way to build a robust application because of performance and deployment considerations.

The PloneLive website was built as a file based Plone Product and is available for download. There are a number of other downloadable example products available on the website as well. I would like to see a little more information on best practices for developing and debugging File Based applications such as when you need to restart Zope and when you don't, how a team of Plone developers should work together on a Plone project (source control, etc.). However, this is a good start with advice about using Selenium as a function testing tool and other best practices.

Plone Live also covers common integrations such as relational databases, LDAP, Apache, and using WebDAV and XML-RPC to integrate with other architectures. For each of these topics, Plone Live provides step by step instructions that are easy to follow.

Plone Live contains many references to other good resources including books, websites, and extensions. The book is written in a very "open source" way in that it recognizes the value of the community and is inclusive of rather than competitive with other resources. Plone Live also leverages is the open source concept of frequent releases. Plone Live is a Live Book published by Source Beat. For $29.95, you can subscribe to Plone Live for a year and get access to a constantly updated version of the book.

The critical area where Plone Live lacks is in the A to Z index. Plone Live does not have one. If you subscribe to the Plone Live book, I am sure this is not a problem since there is probably search. However, I think it is an issue with the paper version. This is the first Source Beat book that I have read so this might be a format constraint imposed by the publisher.

Based on all this, if you have been playing around with Plone or have been using it for a small work group solution, and you want to get serious, pick up Plone Live. You will be glad you did.

I have just finished reading the first and last chapters of your "Plone Live" book...I usually begin reading books at the end...don't ask why.

I've been managing Plone sites since March 2005, so I am relatively new to the Plone world.
So far, I found this book most readable and very informative. In fact, for Plone "newbies", this is the book to start with.
I was first introduced to Plone through Andy McKay's "Definitive Guide to Plone" book and although it is quite excellent, very thorough and comprehensive, I found it difficult to follow and the examples a bit tough to understand. (I do not have a programmer background and had never worked with Python code when I first read Andy's book.)

On the other hand, "Plone Live" is easy to follow, with lots of references to other information and resources. It is written in clear, plain English and as a Communications professional, I really appreciate that. It will answer a number of questions that folks thinking about trying out Plone, or which newbies and old pros may have about Plone.

I look forward to finish reading the rest of Plone Live.

Normally I wouldn't mark a book down for bad production value but I have to make an exception here. The formatting in this book is so bad in places that it's actually distracting from the content. Some material in tables is shoved into cells so small that it's difficult to understand.

That being said, the coverage of Plone is both thorough and well written. Given that I recommend the book.

People complain that open source doesn't have good documentation. Usually
they are correct, but occasionally the reverse is true. Sometimes an open
source project produces a documentation success story that is not just
thorough and professional, but is as innovative and exciting as the software
itself.

Plone Live is such an example. This mammoth effort, produced by Michel and
Munwar, is a tremendous addition to the world of Plone and one of the best
values on the market. Written by people who are involved in the development
of Plone, Plone Live is up-to-date, comprehensive, and well-organized.

This book captures the spirit of Plone as it continues its rise as the
leading open source content management system. Nobody asked Michel and
Munwar to write it. They saw a market, had interest, and showed initiative.
They know all the people involved, go to conferences, give speeches, and
have fun. In fact, CIGNEX hosts development activities and employs several
of the top Plone developers. Plone Live feels like Plone itself, both in
spirit and in execution.

I first encountered Plone while still at Zope Corporation. It was a relief
to see a project doing the specific thing that CMF tried to avoid: focus on
an out-of-the-box experience. It wasn't until I moved to Europe that I saw
the real attraction, best summarized by Martin Aspeli at a recent
conference: "Plone values you and your efforts; come join us and have fun."
Even when the world of Plone is frustrating, there remains a sense that you
matter and your efforts count.

Similarly, my experiences with Michel go back some time, when Zope
Corporation was called Digital Creations. Michel is in a unique position; he
is an early chronicler of both Zope and Plone. With Michel and now with
Munwar, I see the same "Let's make it happen!" approach that encourages
others and generates even broader participation.

Plone Live will be your guidebook on your journey. As Plone grows, Plone
Live will grow with it. Thanks, Michel and Munwar, for showing that open
source can be a leader in documentation.

Paul Everitt
Paul Everitt is the Executive Director of Plone Foundation, a Co-founder of
Zope Corporation, and the Founder of Zope Europe Association and Board
member of OSCOM.