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Praying with the Church: Following Jesus Daily, Hourly, Today [Paperback]

Scot Mcknight
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May 1, 2006

Scot McKnight, best-selling author of The Jesus Creed, invites readers to get closer to the heart of Jesus' message by discovering the ancient rhythms of daily prayer at the heart of the early church. "This is the old path of praying as Jesus prayed," McKnight explains, "and in that path, we learn to pray along with the entire Church and not just by ourselves as individuals." Praying with the Church is written for all Christians who desire to know more about the ancient devotional traditions of the Christian faith, and to become involved in their renaissance today.

With his trademark style of getting right to the heart of theological concepts through practical, witty, and memorable examples from everyday life, Scot invites readers to explore: How Jesus prayed, How the Psalms teach us to pray, How Orthodox Christians pray, How Roman Catholics pray, How Anglicans pray, How The Divine Hours of Phyllis Tickle teaches us to pray, And, how praying with the church is an essential part of spiritual formation.


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The so-called "high church" branches of Christianity have practiced liturgical prayer, or prayer with set words and at set hours, for centuries. In this folksy, practical and welcoming guidebook for Protestants unacquainted with, or perhaps even suspicious of, what he calls the "prayer book tradition" of the Church, McKnight attempts to root liturgical prayer in three things: biblical practice, a theology based on "loving God and loving others" and an ecumenical sensitivity to the riches of various Christian traditions. A professor of religious studies at North Park University and a popular writer on Christian spirituality, McKnightexplores the Jewish practice of prayer, how Jesus practiced prayer and how various denominations use the Psalms and the Bible as foundations for liturgy. He also draws from his own experiences to illustrate how Christians can use prayer books grounded in the Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Anglican traditions. "Praying with the Church," he writes, "involves allowing our own prayer lives to be adjusted to the sacred rhythms of the Church's prayer tradition." Laced with quotations from many "real-life" users, this helpful volume concludes with a chapter on how prayer book liturgies can be adapted for individual use. (May)
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If the old practice of praying the hours is something you have considered but wanted more instruction in, this volume would be a helpful place to begin. Beginning with a treatise on Jesus, practice of prayer and then moving into a historical discussion on how the Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican traditions practiced prayer, McKnight offers ways praying the hours (or the offices) connects with each.

RELEVANT Magazine July 20, 2006

Product Details

  • Paperback: 176 pages
  • Publisher: Paraclete Press (May 1, 2006)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1557254818
  • ISBN-13: 978-1557254818
  • Product Dimensions: 0.6 x 5.3 x 8 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 8 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (9 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,151,025 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

More About the Author

Born in Southern Illinois, came of age in Freeport, Illinois, attended college in Grand Rapids, MI, seminary at Trinity in Deerfield, IL.

Now a professor at North Park University.

Two children.

Kris, my wife, is a psychologist and the greatest woman on earth.

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29 of 29 people found the following review helpful
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I was privileged enough to receive a free copy of this book thanks to the generousity of Paraclete Press in a promotion on Scot McKnight's blog. I just finished reading the book and I must say that the book was perfect at doing what it wanted to do, namely: introducing low-church Christians such as myself to the richness and depth of fixed-hour prayer.

For me, the best part of the book was McKnight's obvious but startling revelation that Jesus would have found himself within the Jewish fixed-hour prayer tradition. There is no stronger argument for fixed-hour prayer than the fact that our Lord Himself was most certainly a practitioner of it and following Him would of course mean following Him in this practice. Again, this would be obvious to many, but for those raised outside of liturgical traditions such as myself, this is a fresh insight.

Secondly, I very much appreciated McKnight's continual reminder that this is not a replacement for spontaneous prayer, but a wellspring for it. I currently find my prayer life devoid of much depth or meaning (or consistency for that matter) and the ability to pray along with some of the giants of the Church makes me not have to feel like praying in order to pray consistenly and well.

Probably the other most important point that McKnight raises is that praying in this manner does not necessarily lead to "vain repetitions" any more than telling your spouse that you love them continually will. This and the afforementioned points should clear away any ignorant debris that would prevent non-liturgically reared Christians such as myself from embracing this ancient and valuable practice.

McKnight concludes by walking the reader through the absolute basics of praying the main prayer books from the Orthodox, Roman Catholic and Anglican traditions in addition to the contemporary "Divine Hours" by Phyllis Tickle. The strongest advice he gives is that it would be best to find an experienced person to help you develop this practice in your life. I hope to find just such a person soon!
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25 of 25 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Praying WITH The Church May 16, 2006
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Having grown up in the rural, evangelical Midwest, I was raised with the limited (very limited) understanding that `liturgy' was something those `weird' churches did, and that it was dry, boring, and irrelevant. Beyond such limited knowledge, I had no idea what `hours' meant (other than a period of time consisting of 60 minutes), or what a `daily office' was (other than a place where you go to work). Little did I know the connection to a global prayer movement that has thrived for centuries.

Even though I have since learned what these terms mean, the idea of using a liturgical prayer book still seemed so foreign to me. What I needed was an easy to read primer on `praying with the church'. Thankfully, Scot McKnight delivered with his new book Praying With the Church.

Like McKnight, and countless other evangelicals, I was very familiar with the practice of praying IN the church (spontaneous prayer gatherings, `popcorn' prayer, prayer meetings, etc). But what my prayer life has lacked was an ordered prayer habit WITH the global church. Merging the two forms of prayer together, orchestrates what McKnight calls a "sacred rhythm of prayer".

This book is perfect for Christians such as me, eager to enrich one's prayer life, but lacking in instruction on how to pray WITH the church. To those from Anglican, Orthodox, Celtic, Catholic traditions, this book will simply preach to the choir (maybe Scot will follow up with Praying IN the Church for those of liturgical backgrounds!).

After some introductory comments on his personally journey of learning how to pray WITH the church, he reexamines the prayer life of Jesus, who most definitely joined in the fixed prayer schedule of first century Judaism.

With such a foundation laid, he then surveys the major streams of fixed, rhythmic prayer in the church today (Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Anglican, and the ecumenical Divine Hours). Each chapter is a helpful introduction on how to use the prayer books from each tradition, what each book's strengths and weaknesses are, and how these books came to be written.

A book on sacred, fixed prayer could easily overwhelm a reader like me. Which book should I choose? There are so many! Fortunately, McKnight is careful to keep his instruction as readable as possible, and he frequently suggests taking this new path of prayer realistically: "Set realistic expectations...avoid the heroic."

Praying WITH the Church is not meant to be a limiting, mindless `prayer prison', where the Holy Spirit is shut out for the sake of uniformity. Rather, praying with the church is a way to join the global church in guided prayers steeped in the Word of God, in tune with the rhythm of life God has instilled within His creation.

To those evangelical sisters and brothers who are wary of `fixed prayer', McKnight offers a valid point. "no one can dispute the tendency for fixed-hour prayers to slip into mindless, memorized mouthing of words. Whose fault, we need to ask is, that." I know I have fallen into the same trap in my own, spontaneous prayer life. I find myself almost reciting the same requests, the same praises, without passion or fervor.

What's my verdict: thumbs up or thumbs down? I give Praying With the Church a wholehearted thumbs up for anyone (especially those from evangelical backgrounds) who is searching for a richer, deeper, prayer life. I'd highly encourage you all to pick up a copy of this book, and then pick up one of the prayer books he recommends. (One of Phyllis Tickle's volumes of The Divine Hours is being shipped to me as I write this review.)

Imagine the power of a global church praying together...
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Encouraging but drawn-out February 21, 2010
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I got Scot McKnight's book because I have long wanted to practice fixed-hour prayer and it looked like his book would be helpful. The first part of the book is very helpful in offering rational reasons to participate in fixed-hour prayer, even if you come from a Christian Tradition that has not historically practiced this Spiritual Discipline. Of course, he also puts in a plug for another of his books "The Jesus Creed."

Section two is supposed to help walk you through some of the prayer books of various branches of the Church, however, this is were the book begins to sputter. He goes into a little background on various books but doesn't do what people who are intimidated by prayer books need: someone to explain how the books work. Instead, he tells how learning them is worth the effort but no actual help on how to use them.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Thoughts on "Praying the Hours"
I really enjoyed McKnight's book on prayer. What I appreciated most was his honestly in stating that he was unsure of the concept of praying the hours, i.e. Read more
Published on September 8, 2010 by William D. Curnutt
5.0 out of 5 stars Great Prayer Resource
In Praying With the Church, Scot McKnight takes on prayer in a way that is probably unexpected for many Evangelicals (which is probably his primary audience). Read more
Published on April 21, 2010 by James C. Jones
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Apologetic for Using Liturgical Prayers as Part of an...
In Praying with the Church: Following Jesus Daily, Hourly, Today, Scot McKnight makes the case that evangelicals and other Christians do themselves a disservice when they limit... Read more
Published on April 15, 2010 by Chip Webb
5.0 out of 5 stars Keep on praying
I was already practicing fixed hour prayer via the internet (Daily Office of the Episcopal Church at www.missionstclare.com) when I ran across this book. Read more
Published on January 19, 2008 by Lazy MJ Ranch
5.0 out of 5 stars Introducing daily liturgy for the non-liturgical
I have recently become very interested in liturgy and the rhythm of praying the daily office. Since I am a Baptist and not from a liturgical background, I have found the Book of... Read more
Published on June 10, 2007 by N. D. Lee
4.0 out of 5 stars Short, Helpful Introduction to Set Times of Prayer
As one who is originally from a very low church background, I appreciated what McKnight was trying to achieve with this little book - to demonstrate the value of regular fixed... Read more
Published on June 24, 2006 by J. Brown
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