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38 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
Disc with release date of February 23, 2010 has defective audio, buy the second pressing.,
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This review is from: Presumed Innocent / Frantic (Thriller Double Feature) [Blu-ray] (Blu-ray)
Unfortunately Amazon has just combined the reviews for the old and new Blu-Rays of FRANTIC, confusing things even more.This first pressing of Polanski's brilliant thriller has defective audio - it does not contain the English language theatrical audio track, which was 100% in English. It is sold here as "Presumed Innocent / Frantic (Thriller Double Feature)", with a release date of February 23, 2010. Look instead for the new version, released in 2011 and sold on a separate page here at Amazon. Flaw of the old disc: The audio track marked as "English" is actually the French theatrical track, which is about 80% English and 20% dubbed French. (It originally played there largely with subtitles) This mistake was then replicated throughout the world, so until May 2011 there were no correct Blu-rays of FRANTIC available From the moment this disc came out in 2010, I made requests for a corrected disc to Warner Home Video. There was never a helpful response. Finally, I gave up and contacted Roman Polanski's office in Paris early this year. They were polite and most helpful. Mr. Polanski himself contacted Warner Bros and they finally fixed the disc. The corrected disc is now available here at Amazon. It is currently listed as "Frantic & Presumed Innocent", with a release date of May 31, 2011. I'm hoping Warners will do the decent thing and offer an exchange program for everyone who has defective discs and wants a new one. As soon as I have info on that, I'll post it here. A more detailed description of the audio error follows: All the dialogue between English-speaking characters is still in English, but most of the exchanges that Ford and Buckley have with French characters are now in UNSUBTITLED FRENCH, dubbed by Ford and Buckley themselves. It's jarring, since it's a huge plot point that Ford's character can't speak a word of French. In addition the French characters all speak to each other in dubbed French now. This despite the fact that their mouths are clearly moving to the English words, since that's the language the entire film was shot in. Their exchanges are only subtitled with the useless "SPEAKING FRENCH" for every line. The previous VHS and DVD releases both contained the original audio, only this Blu-Ray is incorrectly mastered. A casual viewer may not notice this audio error, they may just be a bit confused by the randomly appearing French dialogue. But anybody who knows the film well, as I do having seen it far too many times, will not be a happy camper. It should also be pointed out that key plot information is delivered in some of the now unsubtitled French exchanges, which might make the film a tad confusing to a first-time viewer.
62 of 67 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Good presentation of these two films on a combo Blu-Ray disc, but only on mark down at $10 or less.,
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This review is from: Presumed Innocent / Frantic (Thriller Double Feature) [Blu-ray] (Blu-ray)
This is a review of the Blu-Ray release of these films in one combo package, not a review of the films themselves, which one would assume are so well known that any Harrison Ford fan interested in them would know all about the stories and so forth already.Both these films were very long in the tooth in their DVD releases, looking very dated on DVD with low res look transfers and mediocre sound. The good news: both films have never looked better or sounded better than they do here. The bad news: both films appear to be using be the same telecine transfers used for the prior DVDs, just cleaned up and given a vastly better presentation using the much higher bandwidth and better video codecs available for Blu-Ray. Telecine quality and film to digital technology have come a long way in recent years, and both films retain a very DVD-ish 90s look that has more to do with the dated transfer than with the style of the films. Black crush abounds, especially in "Frantic", and detail is average at best. That said, the prior DVD editions of both films were so entirely awful that this has to count as a serious upgrade for both titles, even as it fails to exhibit the qualities one would hope for in more recently made transfers of catalog films. It's not clear if the telecine sources employed were originally in 2k resolution or not. They may have been less than that, if they were in fact originally minted in the early days of DVD, now re-purposed for Blu-Ray. The sound has been "upgraded" to DTS-MA, but only DTS-MA STEREO. So, you are getting, as with the video, a very upgraded and cleaner presentation of the same dated original soundtrack mix used for the older DVDs. All in all this is a good presentation of these two catalog films on a combo Blu-Ray disc, but only on mark down at $10 or less. Not worth more than that though.
31 of 34 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Frantic/Presumed Innocent on Blu-ray...,
By JW (Canada) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Presumed Innocent / Frantic (Thriller Double Feature) [Blu-ray] (Blu-ray)
I'd rate Frantics Blu-ray Picture quality a 2.5 out of 5, and Presumed Innocent a 3 out of 5. Both prints are from true HD sources. These are not upscales. According to the back of the cover, the audio is "DTS-HD Master Audio: English 2.0".Frantic's picture quality is not bad, it's just weak when compared to the Blu-ray standard. These are clearly older masters, and as such tend to show more grain. Though grain is supposed to be there as it is part of the film, so this is a good thing. Anyone looking for the quality of a Pixar Blu-ray will be disappointed. Frantic is a moody film with smoky bars and cloudy skies. No amount of restoration is going to make this look like Transformers. My biggest complaint is the appearance of digital noise. It tends to plague most solid colors. I do believe though that the Blu-ray is a very good representation of what the film should look like. The film hasn't been "faux" cleaned up in any way. I didn't spot any DNR (Digital Noise Reduction) or EE (Edge Enhancement) or boosted contrast. The picture is extremely film like. I believe this to be a very accurate representation of what the film looked like in theaters. While I've been talking about the negatives, trust me, there are many positives. Every complaint I have is when I compare the quality to other Blu-rays (As I should) While Frantic's Blu-ray quality may only be a 2.5/5. For a DVD that's an 8/5. This is not the weakest Blu-ray (In terms of quality) that I own. And the weakest Blu-ray I own is better then the best DVD I own. The fact is, a weak Blu-ray trumps virtually all DVDs in all departments. The original DVD was pan and scan, and the picture quality was a mess. Watching the Blu-ray compared to the DVD is night and day. The Blu-ray presents Frantic, for the first time on home video, in it's original aspect ratio. This little fact alone is worth it if you're a fan. While I may complain about digital noise, the Blu-ray shows an abundance of detail that was completely lost on the DVD. Everything shows an incredible improvement. Sharpness, detail, Black levels, color, and depth included. Lets get one thing straight: this is the best Frantic has ever looked on home video. This is not a slight improvement over the DVD, this is a huge improvement. I wish Warner would spend millions on a new 8k restoration. Looking at how they treated the original DVD, I'm personally shocked that we even got this Blu-ray. In a non-DNR'd grain-intact print no less. What about Presumed Innocent? Well, oddly enough they're very similar. Presumed tends to show outdoor sunny days and well lit courtrooms. It's not as moody or dark as Frantic. But like Frantic, it has similar problems. The print is clearly old, there's digital noise here and there. Grain has been left intact thankfully. No signs of DNR or EE. The original DVD wasn't anamorphic either. It was merely letterboxed. The Blu-ray rectifies that problem. Honestly, most of the positives/negatives I had for Frantic can be applied to Presumed Innocent as well. It all has to do with the old prints. To sum it up. These are Warner's budget Blu-rays. Compared to the average Blu-ray, these are weak. Though the picture is very accurate as to how the film should look, the simple fact is that they could look better. But a weak Blu-ray always trumps a great DVD. Both these films had crummy DVD releases, and the Blu-ray offers a substantial upgrade in all departments. Both films are housed in a single disc Blu-ray case on one single sided duel layered disc. Each film is roughly 20 gigs of space. Zero special features, not even a trailer. Subtitles in French, Spanish, and English for the hearing impaired. Spanish dub is also included.
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