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17 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars All the joy and agony of real racing!
While I am not a racing purist, I enjoyed both Project Gotham games and enjoy playing all arcade racing games on my Xbox and PS2. In RalliSport Challenge 2, I've completed Amateur, Pro and Champion levels with more than 100 races in the game finished.

First off, you should know that this is a racing simulator, not an arcade-style racer, but even given that, DICE has...

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2.0 out of 5 stars They tried too hard, and lost a fan.
So, Rallisport 1 was the best game on the X-box. Still is. While many other racing games touted realism, Ralli touted fun. And FUN it was....cars with clear difficulty differences, bright, airy tracks, great sounds and wonderful falls. This was a forgiving game for the novice and a challenging game for the expert. Words cannot express how much I was lookin forward to...
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17 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars All the joy and agony of real racing!, May 13, 2004
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DarkDan "DarkDan" (Norman, OK United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Rallisport Challenge 2 (Video Game)
While I am not a racing purist, I enjoyed both Project Gotham games and enjoy playing all arcade racing games on my Xbox and PS2. In RalliSport Challenge 2, I've completed Amateur, Pro and Champion levels with more than 100 races in the game finished.

First off, you should know that this is a racing simulator, not an arcade-style racer, but even given that, DICE has still worked to make the game enjoyable for all skill levels. Unlockables like new cars and tracks for example, are awarded just by playing the game -- you do not have to finish in first place to get them. This alone, makes the game far more enjoyable. Also, simply by driving a car and "putting mileage on it" you'll unlock custom paintjobs for each vehicle. That is until you reach the final stage, SuperRally, where you must place 3rd or better to progress.

STRENGTHS:

The first thing you're going to love about RalliSport Challenge 2 is the graphics. The predecessor (RalliSport Challenge) created the standard for a new level of amazing graphics, but this game improves on that with dynamic graphics, like dirt trails that cloud the view of the people behind you and leaves that kick up from under your tires. Birds resting in your path will take flight as you approach and the scenery can be described as nothing less than picturesque.

The race levels are well designed and well thought out. Each has their own interesting twists and turns and elevation changes have been added so that you can suddenly lose control on a jump or bottom out after a wicked turn. Also, tracks have interesting combinations of sand, mud, dirt and tarmac which all perform differently as you slide through them. Although I may not know from personal experience how it feels to go out of control on snow at 100 MPH, this game gives me a realistic feeling of how bad it would be.

Speaking of which, the damage system works well so that you can't simply play "crash 'em derby" through the races to take out opponents and drive through obstacles, but also doesn't hamper the gameplay by making you drive too cautiously through every turn. You can lose a tire in the game, and believe it or not you can finish by driving on the rims, but your track times will certainly suffer. The game keeps you informed of problems with a damage indicator that is extremely easy to read even at high speeds. In addition, your car will "deteriorate" as you take damage, including blowing out the windows, bumpers dragging behind you and even the hood flying over your head! (Yes, I've instinctively ducked a few times.)

Soundwise, the game is top-notch. The car sounds, special effects and other elements of the game all add to the realism. Although many have complained about the music included on the game, I've enjoyed the thumping tracks as I make my way through the levels and, since the game supports custom soundtracks, you can add your own music anyways.

WEAKNESSES:

Alas, the worst part of playing this game is the off-track camera angles. Because of the elevation changes and other 3D elements of the game, you almost have to play this game in third person view (where your point of view is directly behind the car). Sadly, once you drive too far off track, the camera angle rotates and makes it almost absolutely impossible to get back on track without hitting obstacles and bringing the car to a dead stop. This is worsened when your co-pilot tells you "easy left" and it turns out to be a hairpin turn. You realize that your partner and the game appear to be cheating to work against you.

In addition to the camera angles, the display also can be the cause of a crash. In the RallyCross and Ice Racing competitions, your course map is on the bottom of the screen. As you hit checkpoints, the display changes from the map to show your position in the current race. Obviously, this can be deadly if there's a hairpin turn approaching and you were just glancing down at the map to see how far away you were. In addition, there are a few instances where DICE has placed a "dead end" turn immediately prior to the one you're supposed to take, or a second turn that is sharper than the one your supposed to take. These little "tricks" seem like an additional unfair challenge that the computer cars will not fall for, but also add to the excitement when you outsmart their level designers.

Finally, your opponents do not seem to be affected by darkness or some of the inclement weather conditions. This will certainly frustrate you if you're the kind of player that has to be first in every race.

SUMMARY:

In short, I would recommend this game as a "must have" for anyone who enjoys a true on-road/off-road racing simulation. It should be considered by most a "best of class" game for the Xbox console, despite some of the frustrating shortcomings of the game.

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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars The best Rally game out there..., May 23, 2005
= Fun:5.0 out of 5 stars 
This review is from: Rallisport Challenge 2 (Video Game)
I had to write a review entirely because the spotlight review was written by someone who hadn't 'got' this game or taken the time to explore the settings.

Actually, I see reviews all the time claim this game is an 'arcade' rally game, indicating that perhaps the game lacks depth, maybe has unrealistic physics, or even simple fake graphics.

All of these points are wrong. Completely false. The cars handle extremely realistically, and most folks who play this agree this is the BEST looking racer available. Better than Forza? Not sure, but better than PGR2 by a hundred - double the frame rate for start. You see, not least of which is the 60fps you get with a HD TV, but add to that the amazing reflections, muddy splashes, infinite distance view (with a tiny amount of inconsequential pop-up trees) and you have a showcase game. I've had more than one PS2 owner go out and buy an XBOX for this game after playing it in my house - testament indeed to the incredible realism this Rally racer offers.

Previously, the 'easy left' that you co-pi states was mentioned as a fault... When your rally co-pilot claims 'Easy left' or 'hard right' then you have the game on arcade setting.

A simple click in the settings would result in '3 left opens to 4' or '1 right, opens to 3. Bump onto straight through tunnel. Hairpin right' offering a much more useful, accurate indication of the upcoming road conditions.

Ultimately - this game is stunning. Worth every penny of the budget price it's currently at - if you're hesitant due to lax reviews, don't be. I've put in hundreds of hours on this amazing game and it's a real as the Xbox can get.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Superb!, April 16, 2005
= Fun:5.0 out of 5 stars 
This review is from: Rallisport Challenge 2 (Video Game)
I'm not a big gamer. I've had my XBOX for over a year and it's mostly collected dust. I love driving simulation games and I think rally is the most fun of the various forms of driving so I picked up RalliSport Challenge 2 based on a day and a half long online search for a good rally game. All of the reviews said that RSC2 had the best combination of realism, fun and graphics.

They were right! The physics model is incredible and the damage is very realistic. When you start an event, your car is shiny and new - but when you get to the end, you may be missing a few body parts, have a few broken windows and you're covered in dust, mud, etc. Now THAT's RALLY!

Above all though is the scenery! The graphics are so good that one of my favorite things to do is to just watch the replay of the latest run!

Make you own music video! -
The folks who made this game really added a cool feature with the replay options - you have full control over the playback speed and camera selection. Because you can load your own music to the XBOX hard drive, when the replay starts you hear your favorite music playing along with the game sounds and video of your last run. As you control the playback, you can adjust the replay speed from ultra fast to super slow motion with the trigger levers - basically making a live music video out of the replay footage! Very sweet!

Australian dirt, Swedish snow, British leaves, French cobblestone streets...
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing game!, January 22, 2005
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= Fun:5.0 out of 5 stars 
This review is from: Rallisport Challenge 2 (Video Game)
The detail and realism in Rallisport Challenge 2 is amazing.
From rain and mud on your windshield to the wheelspin and suspension on each racecar, no detail is left to chance.
Numerous race courses, race formats, and realistic tuning options mean you will never run out of fun.

Hands down, this is the best racing game I have seen on Xbox.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Rallisport Challenge 2, June 7, 2004
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This review is from: Rallisport Challenge 2 (Video Game)
Overall / Summary: Easily much better than the original. Better graphics, better sound effects, better hadling, better everything (except music). This one even has EXCELLENT 16 player XBox Live support! Compared to Project Gotham Racing; RalliSport Challenge, 2 has better graphics, better environments, better lighting, equal Live support, but even though the two games are totally different in terms of game play, PGR2 comes in first when it comes to \"ease of play.\" Both PGR2 and RSC2 are the best racers on XBox, and both shouldn\'t be missed!

Gameplay: The career mode is fun, but a little easy at the start (naturally). As you progress it\'ll get harder, and most of the tracks become hard enough to challenge any skilled racer. The physics are much better than the original RalliSport. The cars don\'t seem to be so light any more, they actually hug the ground this time around. And the y interact with the environment a lot better too. So if you flip your car and it\'s going to roll around...it really IS going to roll around, and doors, bumpers, hoods, tires and just about everything but the driver flys off as the car tubles down the hill. One complaint is that on the ice tracks or a track were there could be little traction, your car my uncontrollably spin out and it\'s very hard to counter. But whatever. XBox Live support is AWESOME. Playing with 16 players is really fun. You get to see them fly around the track, and mess up just as well :D It really is a great experiance. 40 cars to choose from, and something like 90 tracks (some variances of others).

Visual: Top notch! The trees look totally realistic, and everything is MUCH better than the original game. The environments are much more interesting, and there\'s a lot more to look at and enjoy. The cars look better too. The sky textures have been improved from the original, and so has the overall texture quality.

Sound: Now comes the good and the bad area. The bad: the music sucks pretty bad, but luckily there are custom sound tracks. The good: the cars sound good, and that\'s all that matters when you have Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround.

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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Wow..., July 6, 2004
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This review is from: Rallisport Challenge 2 (Video Game)
Well, as I was reading the reviews here, I thought I didn't need to say a single word as a result of most of you reviewing the game quite fairly...fairly being giving the game absolutely no less than a 4. But then I came across one review...yikes. Skipping ahead, it all started off as a normal day, me on the computer, sittin' back, looking for Rallisport 1 codes. I came across a little link at IGN.com on the Xbox channel that said "Rallisport Challenge 2" Instantly, I clicked on the link and then...BOOM! Like magic I was transferred to the page. All I could say was "Oh man, I am getting Rallisport Challenge 2." (Hands shaky and palms sweaty, of course!) But then comes today. I haven't gotten the game yet, but I have the Exhibition demo version. Got it at Wal-Mart. (Sorry Toysrus, I just live closer to Wal-Mart, otherwise I would've shopped at your store, trust me..you have a much better selection of everything videogames!) I played the game, and instantly I was floored. I was mauled by the beautiful graphics...reflections of puddles in the mud from the rain, leaves flying up in the air as I drive through piles of them, pounds of dust kicking into the air as I slide through a turn on the track...which, of course, happens to be very well designed, and does not seem repetitive in any part whatsoever. Wow, the reflection of the cars' lights shimmering on the icy asphault, the sun realistically reflecting off of the ripples in the pond nearby...and the damage effects...completely awesome..there's no technical term to describe it...none but awesome. The track designs are, by far, perfect. Not too hard to tell where you are going, not so easy it seems fake, and nothing makes you feel like you've "seen that area before" during any of the races. But the damage thing actually leads me to the games physics engine. In the first game, the cars felt pretty weightless, and they just kind of slid around on the tracks, but in RSC 2, the cars have a perfect feeling of weight to them, and they hug the track just perfectly. Well, that is, if you are up to that. The fact being that it's a challenging game leads to the perk of a damage engine. The damages are very realistic, and I was very surprised when I found that my Subaru was suddenly not handling like the very expensive car it is (or was). The bumper was hanging off, sides that I actually rolled on were realistically caved in, lights that I smashed on wall sides were suddenly not shining anymore..oh yes, and as I looked down at the ever-so-bent front end of my car, I realized that my car was veering off to the right...and, as time (and more smashings to the frontal left side of mu Subaru) went by, I realized that it was getting progressively harder to turn left..wow. Very cool, if not innovative..."innovative?!", you ask? Well, yeah, this game gives new meaning to good graphics, good level design, good mechanics, good physics, good fun, good effected-performance-whilst-getting-your-car-smashed, good everything! If you're a fan of the series, the genre, or just videogames..ah, heck, if you're a fan of living then please, do yourself a favor and go get an Xbox, go get Rallisport Challenge 2, pick up a can of Pepsi, take a sip, and pop the game in..go ahead, you desrve it. Everyone does.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Rallisport Challenge 2 is addictive gaming at it's best, December 15, 2008
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This review is from: Rallisport Challenge 2 (Video Game)
This game is the only reason I still own an original xbox. Shame it's not backward compatible with the 360.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Wow why have I not played ralley before., July 30, 2004
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Sandy Powell (Minneapolis, UT USA) - See all my reviews
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= Fun:5.0 out of 5 stars 
This review is from: Rallisport Challenge 2 (Video Game)
I never played any rally game before, and after playing this game I really wonder why. I have played car games since the beginning of them and not played a more fun game. Well Carmageddon was really fun and I have never seen a game as open, but it was very twisted. I have all of the Need for Speed games; the whole series from one and can honestly say this is much better than even Need for Speed Underground. Some of the reviews have said that the cars seem light, and trust me if you hit a dirt road at over 60 on a corner you would swear you were floating too. I have done it at slower speeds on gravel and thought I was going to fly right off the road. I personally think there is too much traction if anything in this game. I mean really have you ever hit a corner on ice and was able to hit the emergency brake and gas and get traction? I have hit corners in real life at 40 mph and slid a car sideways on dry cement... It's a scary feeling, and that is why I really enjoy the game. Finally a game you can really drive the heck out of, and slide around corners in a way that really feels real. Most games I have played you hit a corner, bounce off a wall, or tree, or some invisible line and keep on going. In this game your car rolls, slides, drops off cliffs, and even can go off the road and hit a tree. Sometimes you find yourself in the air and the road is drifting away from you.

Like I said sometimes I feel like there is too much traction. If there is a hairpin corner coming up you can hit the brakes on dirt road and stop in an instant. Nice for when your moving too fast and need to stop, but fake in my mind. Still it's the most enjoyable driving game I have ever played, and I am hooked. Some of the corners do seem blind when you go into them, but I guess that's more like life. The people that complain about those corners not being visible should go drive 100 mph and see how many corners they can see (not really just making a point). The damage is also somewhat fake sorry for saying it, but I dropped off a cliff and was still able to drive. After you play it for a while though you start to like how some things are not real. I would hate to hit a tree and have my radiator blow a hole and not be able to finish a race. It's nice that you can hit the brakes on dirt and stop in an instant for when those corners are not exactly what the guy says. So all in all I think it's the best driving game I have played.

Personally though I would prefer if there was only one heads up display and it was the track corners coming up. The guy talking can get somewhat confusing when you have more than three things on the track ahead. I know they are trying to make it more like rally racing though and it does keep you on your toes. I am going to try to switch it to advanced mode latter, which gives you a number for the degree of the corner. I might like it better then, because sometimes you find that the information he gives you really doesn't say enough about the degree of the corner.

After all is said, this game really makes me wonder what the future of driving games will be like when they are this good now. It would be nice to be able to add parts and have more cars, but for the game is I am completely hooked.
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7 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars They tried too hard, and lost a fan., July 5, 2004
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So, Rallisport 1 was the best game on the X-box. Still is. While many other racing games touted realism, Ralli touted fun. And FUN it was....cars with clear difficulty differences, bright, airy tracks, great sounds and wonderful falls. This was a forgiving game for the novice and a challenging game for the expert. Words cannot express how much I was lookin forward to this new game.....

...and unfortunately I am quite disappointed.

Yeah the graphics are better...the sound is a little bit better, but the gameplay really kinda sucks. The original game was challenging and had your palms sweating when you were racing for the title, and of course I swore at the screen many times, but it was all in fun and I really loved to repeat a course to beat it. In the new game I am swearing for other reasons....

1) Landscape - oftentimes it is impossible to tell where the track ends and where the outer bits begin. That is cute at first, but it just sucks after a while.

2) Collisions - things that I hit, that should be glancing blows, just simply STOP the car. You cannot use tactics where you bounce off a wall, or a small tree or something. There are no times where you flip over a rock and go WOO! Nope. You just...stop. It is horribly annoying.

3) This "ghost" thing. In the original game it was really fun to bang into other cars, especially when you re-appear after an accident. In 2, you have this "ghost" factor where for the first few moments after you appear, you are essentially not there, so people drive through you. It throws your timing off...it should be a tactic to bounce off other cars, etc. In this, you drive through a car, and hit a rock, and STOP.

4) There was a cute English voice yelling at you in the first game...apparently some people did not like it, so now there is a generic video game voice giving you directions.

5) Damage. Yeah it sounds whiny, but in the first game you could beat the snot out of yer car and still roll along happily. In this game, if the wheel comes off, you cripple the car. You know what? I don't care about realism...there are enough realistic games out there.

In short, the fun-ness of the game is severely sacrificed for the sake of "better" graphics and sound. Yeah there are cool parts where you can really customize your replies, etc...but after a race I never find myself caring enough to watch.

So, the way I see it, I have another bazillion hours of fun left on Ralli. I don't have to play Ralli 2 at all, so I'll just put it on the shelf. Boy howdy I hope Halo 2 does not follow the same dark path.

I give this game 2 stars because they should have known better. They HAD the formula. If they made longer tracks, more cars from which to choose, and a couple more races, I would have been psyched, just like Doom/Doom 2.

Why mess with a winning formula?????????? Sadly it happens all too often.

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4 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Best Racing Game on XBox!, May 11, 2004
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J. Novoselsky "jnovo79" (Chicago, IL United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Rallisport Challenge 2 (Video Game)
This has to be the single greatest racing game ever. I am a huge fan of Project Gotham 2, which before this came out held my title of best ever. This game blows it out of the water. Even if you are not a rally fan you will love this game. There are 5 different styles of racing in this game, all of which are available for online play with the corresponding cars. The controls for the game are pretty much identical to PGR2, which makes it easy to learn for all PGR2 vets. But what sets this apart is the crashes. Normally I get angry when I crash, but in this game (much like NASCAR) the crashes are half the fun. Because of the superior graphics, yor car can go from mint to junk heap before your eyes. Parts fly off, your windsheild and windows will blow out, generally it looks like what would happen if you actually rolled a car at 100mph except for no blood. Heck, you can even take out the bystanders if you really mess up. But seriously, my review probably doesn't do the game justice, buy it you won't be disapointed.
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