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30 of 36 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Interesting but incomplete,
This review is from: Reasons to Believe: One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind (Hardcover)
John Marks does a great job of taking his readers through his interesting journey in and out of Christianity. He avoids caricatures and is very respectful to the evangelical world. Yet, his ending assesment is that one must be delusional to embrace a "personal relationship" with Christ and that living a life of service to others makes no sense because he himself would never do so. His Biblical inaccuracies will raise doubts in many as to how well he acutally knows the Bible (He states that Saul is David's father) and hurts his credibility. For those who are not familiar with the teachings of the Old and New Testaments his errors will go unnoticed. Marks also ignores important elements of the evangelical world and this both weakens and distorts his portrayal. He either failed to interview or report, for instance, any representation from the growing Reformed Evangelicals. He states that if he were to embrace a relationship with Christ that this would be an assault on his wife and son who are Jewish. The watershed issue for Marks is not whether the claims of Christ are true but that he cannot reconcile the existence of evil in the world with belief in Jesus Christ and that doing so would cost him greatly in his personal life.
11 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Is there a heaven to be "left behind" from?,
By Erik Olson "Seeker Reviews" (Ridgefield, WA United States) - See all my reviews (TOP 1000 REVIEWER) (VINE VOICE) (REAL NAME)
This review is from: Reasons to Believe: One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind (Hardcover)
As a lapsed evangelical who has recently left the fold, I'm probably still too close to the subject to be objective about my experience. Indeed, some traumatized former evangelicals, like author Frank Schaeffer, may never be able to write dispassionately about the Church (as demonstrated in his recent book "Crazy for God"). However, John Marks has gotten to the point where he can rationally revisit the evangelical Christianity he abandoned long ago, and in this fine book he takes us along on his journey.In the introduction an evangelical married couple asks the author if he will be "left behind," an allusion to the popular Christian book series about the End Times. In other words, is Mr. Marks condemned to eternal separation from God? He teases out this question all though "Reasons to Believe," and finally answers it on the last page. But not before we follow him as he visits various churches (mega and otherwise), checks out the Christian music scene and homeschooling movement, considers the possible theological fate of his Jewish wife and gay friend, and reexamines his own past when he was a youthful true believer. One of the things I appreciated about "Reasons to Believe" was that it lived up to its title. If you read my review of "Crazy for God," you might discern that I'm still a bit sensitive about my former Christian walk, much like someone who has finally left a long-term abusive relationship. However, there had to be some goodness in the Church for me to have stuck around for over twenty years, and Mr. Marks reminded me of that truth. He encounters grieving families who lovingly stick together and retain faith in the face of unexplainable tragedy, mixes with intelligent believers who have a strong sense of community and purpose, discovers ministries that reach out to anyone in need regardless of their belief system, and experiences sublime moments of joyful worship. To this day, I miss these elements of Christianity. Of course, there had to be reasons to leave as well as reasons to believe, and the author digs into those as well. He uncovers the Church's obsession with sin management and avoiding the appearance of evil, ruminates over the problem of suffering, reveals the persecution of those who don't tow the doctrinal line, and highlights the hypocrisy of leaders who live double lives and can't measure up to their own fire and brimstone sermons. As with me, the doctrine of hell angers the author, especially when family members and close friends would be condemned to eternal suffering and separation from God for no other reason than failing to follow a particular theological bent. I'm with Mr. Marks in my distain for such an infernal idea and I had no problem walking away from this, and the other aforementioned negative aspects, of the Church. So...will Mr. Marks be "left behind?" At the conclusion of his journey he takes his stand, and it's one that I can empathize with. I recommend reading "Reasons to Believe" along with Frank Schaeffer's somewhat more polemic book "Crazy for God" and "God's Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question - Why We Suffer" by Bart D. Ehrman to gain fascinating and controversial insights on faith, doctrine, and Christianity from former evangelicals.
6 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Spiritual warfare: a deserter returns to his battleground,
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This review is from: Reasons to Believe: One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind (Hardcover)
After a polite Jehovah's Witness came to our door recently and we politely declined his message, my wife wondered if he thought we'd be damned. John Marks asks himself the same question. The book's subtitle {"One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind"} indicates his investigation into his teenaged embrace of, his young adult rejection of, and his mature return to investigate those who practice a born-again Christian faith. He holds out, unable to reconcile the demands of submission with the caprices of a god who witnesses abundant evils committed in as well as in spite of a loving god's name.Powerful themes, and Marks as a veteran journalist takes them on boldly yet sensitively. The book, as he tells us early on, was one he's been waiting his whole life to write, and it shows. As he's only two years younger than me, I admit my own interest piqued as his own tastes in rock and his own pop culture connections often intersected with mine. And, any author who cringes at the thought of a heaven full of music in the key of Chicago or Blood, Sweat & Tears-- not to mention a preacher's promise of paradise full of ourselves acting like "five year olds"-- gains in credibility as far as I'm concerned. Like him, I favor the sounds and the example of Billy Zoom of X much more! While the publicity for the book pushes the saved-or-damned conundrum, most of Marks' study's far less dramatic. He's not criticizing the right of people to have a faith that condemns people to hell if they are not baptized and accepting of Jesus as their own savior (he finds such an element, according to the Barna polls he cites, if taken seriously at levels of committment to be only about 7-9% of the U.S.) but the right of such a bloc "to assert their belief as a national religion." (16) "Can a pluralist democracy absorb and support an exclusive, nonpluralistic belief at the heart of its system?" (16) Although the extension of such an argument falls outside the book's scope, the dangers of fundamentalist surety or evangelical righteousness certainly connect with movements far greater in numbers in the rest of the world. Marks wonders if he's betraying himself if he gives in and returns to the comforting "call" that moved him as a younger man. He weakens if barely, but determines as the narrative progresses to remain true to himself, as a committed secular student of a phenomenon he examines from a skeptical yet respectful distance. His dual identity as one who knows the insider's lingo yet stands apart from accepting it actually increases his ability to talk to believers, who understand that Marks will not distort or misunderstand or betray what they share with him about the challenges of their faith. His father, when his teen son became "saved," predicted "You just wait. It starts with this, and it'll end up with him not believing in God at all." (230) Marks makes much of his own very comfortable suburban Dallas roots, and shows how his family's roots lie in a mainstream Protestantism which has been eroding under the triple assaults of three disparate movements, the fundamentalists now under retreat, the evangelicals gaining, and the Pentecostals flourishing. His research reminds us that contrary to media stereotypes, fundamentalists and evangelicals remain distinct, and he explains why the latter's more emotional style fits better with the megachurches and outreaches of millennial American attitudes. His book, however, in following such trends does often bog down in interviews, recounting dutifully conversations with pastors and workers without much verve. Chapters on post-Katrina church efforts, homosexuality, his stint in Germany that led him as a college student away from his faith, the Christian music scene, or the Young Life youth movement are all informative, but rarely rise above that function. There's a lot of quotes that remind you more of an extended feature by a reporter in a newspaper series rather than a book that ties its threads together more tightly. Towards the end, a few of these strands turn up again and connect, but much of the pace slackens for long stretches, dulling interest and goading you as a reader to wait for Marks to recount his own story to perk up the cultural or personal relevance again. Too many of these pages kept me restless, and chapters often end suddenly or on the off-note of hesitation. He speaks often of his own doubts and uncertainties, past and present, and here's when he's strongest. The book combines reportage on the religious scene with some history, some sociology, and some theology, and ultimately, Marks uses the book to work out his own guilt at "losing" his faith and reclaiming his humanist creed, shaky a substitute it may be, as more honest for him. "I had 'lost' my faith, in that I had wanted to keep it, but couldn't sustain it. The world laid out by the Bible, the reality of it, just seemed to nullify with the years, taking one blow after another till I could no longer hold on. I had seen human cruelty that sank my ability to buy the idea of a sovereign ruler of the universe. The faith didn't help me to understand; it closed off avenues for knowledge." (252) In his interviews with such Christians as Niki missionizing in Iraq, Colonel Birdwell surviving 9/11 at the Pentagon, Daniel at Biola, or his guide Don, Marks takes great care to present these people as having earned our respect, as being tested greatly by the God they love, while Marks insists upon his own autonomy from their faith that impels them to draw him into their closed circle of the elect, according to their inerrant reading of chapter and verse and their strict standard of salvation. Finally, as when Marks places his own existentialist (he does admire Kafka's "The Castle") views against those of a believer who saw her husband and her fellow missionaries die in Iraq on a clandestine missionary foray, he arrives at a irrevocable truth both Christians and humanists may shrink from, even though it is the logical outcome. Honesty demands he says what he thinks. Niki's sacrifice of her husband and brethren in spreading news of God gains her a reward in heaven. As Marks does not believe in God, he will drop into everlasting torment. Or, she's deluded, having gone from her dream into reality-- a hostile land where her good news was despised and her friends and spouse were murdered. Her loss remains unredeemable, her sacrifice is based on a lie. Marks concludes: "These two interpretations are incompatible. They are mutually opposed translations of the same original text and cannot be squared. Their two hells cannot coexist. If one is true, the other must be false. Or both are false, and the truth of existence lies elsewhere. Theoretically, we are free to choose, But I suspect that Niki McDonnall will stick by her story. The question is whether I stick by mine." (197) Marks raises many such uncomfortable issues. Those on homosexuality, women who fear men, and roles of youth at camps all could have earned even more attention. Most of all, I would have liked more discussion about the ties between evangelicals and Jews. As Marks' wife and son are Jewish, Marks' own consideration of his eternal fate intersects intimately with his family. This poignant and disturbing relevance of the talk of dispensations and being "under heavy conviction" and being left behind at the Rapture before meriting, if one holds out, endless suffering certainly deepen the impact of Marks' study. He holds back somewhat, I sense, from fully delving into the complicity of some Christians with the cause of Zion as the manifestation of the End Times simply because the realities that such alliances mask prove too eerie. A few errors have been remarked upon by other Amazon reviewers. I add that Texas "Catholic" University's likely from the context of its graduate before and after college to be "Christian;" Meister Eckhardt does not have an "e" after the "k;" on an "October day" in Prague's Jewish cemetery it'd be impossible that a "Jewish holiday, Sukkoth or Purim, had shut the place down." (352) The former commemoration, yes; the latter feast that takes place in January or February, no! Marks rarely indulges in his own philosophizing, being at heart a direct writer for all his learning, but he hits the target: pulling at our loyalties are a pair of "great forces." Memory tugs us back "to our childhood, our roots, our homeland, our God. Desire flings us forward, to our future, our mate, our children, and, sometimes, to our death." He fights reductionism, but stays "certain that every human being lives on some kind of the line between these two poles and finds a balance, or doesn't, at one end of the other of a spectrum." (266) He wonders in the final pages-- looking ahead past the 2008 election and a shift away from the "politics of faith" at least in the White House-- if such a desire as many have for the apocalypse filters into a "death wish for the world." He ponders evangelical panic at the declining acceptance of "bible-true" faith collides with technologies alternately denigrated by many Christians and embraced by many "dispensationalists" who wish to use them to hasten annihilation by "spiritual warfare." The victims of such divinely-guided wrath (nothing personal as his "saved" neighbors assure him), would be the likes of Marks, his family, and the majority of the people left behind on earth.
13 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Understanding, but not belief,
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This review is from: Reasons to Believe: One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind (Hardcover)
John Marks is an entertaining, readable author. As an evangelical I truly enjoyed his fresh perspective on my faith. Reasons to Believe is an anecdotal story of Marks' personal journey as he re-investigates the beliefs of his youth. The stories he tells are at times nostalgic, horrifying, solemn or idiosyncratic, but they are consistently interesting. He has a much deeper, clearer insight into the evangelical mind and evangelicals' interaction with modern American culture than I expected to find. His stories about his youth and his extended family are fascinating. The sketches of the individuals in the book piqued my curiosity, and often made me wish that I knew them personally (I do know the McWhinneys personally).One of the most surprising facets of the book is what Marks' does not get right. I attend Denton Bible Church, one of the churches that Marks' highlights in his book. He recollects that on the Sunday he attended our church the pastor Tommy Nelson "stepped forward in a long maroon robe". I have attended Denton Bible since 1992 and I have not once seen Tommy wear a robe; including the Sunday that Marks' cites. I remember that Sunday clearly because of the announcement of the death of the McWhinneys son. Did Marks' simply remember this incorrectly? He does not seem to be the type of author to get his facts twisted so I am really at a loss to know what to make of it. Marks' also gets some of the scriptural details wrong. Most notably in his chapter "Submission" he writes, "King David's father Saul refused to submit, and he was utterly destroyed". This is not a minor detail to get wrong because major portions of several Old Testament books detail the life of David: that he was the youngest son of Jesse, that he was sent to serve in Saul's court, that he was best friends with Saul's son Jonathon, that he was given Saul's daughter, Michal, in marriage, that he spent years running from Saul as Saul sought to kill him, and finally that Saul and all of his son's were killed in battle against the Philistines. Apparently, neither Marks' nor his editors are familiar with any of these stories. Marks' reacts at a visceral level to the evangelical position on homosexuality. He has a very good friend that is gay so the issue is very personal to him. Still, I was surprised at the amount of space in the book devoted to the topic. Homosexuality is obviously a huge divider in our society. Both sides are too quick to use inflammatory rhetoric and too slow to understand the other. I wonder if Marks' ultimate rejection of Christianity doesn't stem as much from this issue as from his professed trouble with a God who allows bad things to happen. Of the people that Marks' profiles in his book, the one that seemed to make the biggest impression on him is David Barton. Barton and his organization, Wall Builders, preserve documentation showing the religious influence on the founding and early years of our nation. Barton apparently travels far and wide educating individuals and showing the physical documents that prove the presence of faith in early America. Marks' believes that Barton is influential in the evangelical community, and fears that influence. Marks' fears faith based politics, "not only because I know that enormous numbers of Americans will never, ever accept such a politics, just as I know that these conservative Christians have not and will not accept a fully secularized politics. And this realization brings me to the heart of my dread, that an incompatibility in the body politic of such grave proportions will only ever resolve itself through a massive act of violence that will make any talk of spiritual warfare seem quaint indeed." Wow! Of what kind of violence does he think evangelicals are capable? This just floors me. While Marks' journey examines many facets of modern evangelicalism, he fails to come to terms with the person of Jesus Christ. Did his search have any hope of success at all? Reasons to Believe brings to mind the medieval philosopher Anselm's formulation, "Nor do I seek to understand that I may believe, but I believe that I may understand. For this, too, I believe, that, unless I first believe, I shall not understand." Ultimately, Marks' fails to believe and he fails to understand.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
A Fair Look,
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This review is from: Reasons to Believe: One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind (Hardcover)
John Marks is very fair, and does a great job in making human those who are religious. He lets them speak, and respects their views entirely. He simply does not buy the message.The Barna study, something I had not heard of, was very illuminating and thematic throughout. It illustrates the many schisms and types of Christians within Christianity. Most of my family, and my wife's family are Christian. But 20% or 9% of Christians, depending on how you define it, would only say they are nominally Christian. Most Christians in America are tolerant, and their belief in Christianity guides them. They are tolerant and do not wear it on their sleeve. They try to use Christian philosophy, but are not judgmental, and accept, say, homosexuality or do not seem so worried about hell and saving people. Then there are the Christians who condemn everyone, and do not seem to wonder how they are becoming more and more of a minority. I agree with Marks' conclusions, and thought especially powerful his passage where he compares two ways to value or give purpose to Nikki McDonall's life. She is the missionary who lost her husband and a hand in Iraq. While I think Christians, and religious people gain joy and comfort from their belief. Living for a mythical afterlife is a waste of time, and neutralizes the good a person can do, but also can make others better. It's not universal one way or the other. Marks' main reason for not believing, namely, the fact God allows atrocity, is something I disagree with. Some Christians defended this by saying God makes up for it in the afterlife, and this has logic. I think the best reason not to buy religion is because they have the imprint of man. This is the case with Zeus or the Sun God, and most people can agree, but it is rather strange why this is not so easy for the masses to see concerning the more widely believed religions. Marks asks in the opening pages a very good question that most Christians have, and I paraphrase: How can so many people not believe in Christ when the signs are unmistakably clear? Marks gives a very solid answer.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
great potential, little accomplished,
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This review is from: Reasons to Believe: One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind (Hardcover)
faulty presuppositions derail this inquiry that could have been productive. in my opinion, the author assumes that faith in God is an inferior posture that does not measure up to critical thinking. bordeline intellectual snobbery does not require the author to critique his own assumptions to the same standards he applies to others.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Illustrative about how many former Xians must feel,
By Sarah Trachtenberg "hardcoreatheist" (Brookline, MA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Reasons to Believe: One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind (Hardcover)
I've read lots of books criticizing (not necessarily in the negative sense) religion. Marks has written a book looking critically at religion, and Christianity in particular, but unlike most of the books on the atheist's shelf, does so with sympathy and longing. Based on my own friends' (and interviewees') accounts, many former Xians who are now atheists miss the faith they left behind, particularly the heaven that they wouldn't go to. (Many don't miss religion, though, and find lack of it a relief. I feel the need to point that out.)What makes Reasons to Believe so readable is the personal accounts of both the author and his interviewees, particularly their sex lives, in the sense of homosexuality, feelings on sex before and after marriage, etc. One account describes boys experimenting with gay sex at a church youth group camping trip (chuckle). Marks quotes secular and religious sex surveys. "Anal sex is now the firewall." Food for thought. If I have anything negative to say about this book, it's my own personal bias that Marks's book is perhaps kinder on religion than it deserves. Yes, religion has done some good, but I think we'd be better off without it. Marks misses an opportunity to point this out when he discusses a survivor of the September 11th attacks whose faith was affirmed by the tragedy. Marks reports that Christianity is a greater force in the US because of the attacks. This, Marks says, is a cause for fear, despite his positive feelings about religion... but he really should have mentioned that religion *caused* the attacks, too.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
A good read, despite a flawed premise,
By AlexJB (san francisco, ca United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Reasons to Believe: One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind (Hardcover)
I had completely inappropriate expectations when I found this book - thinking that it was an exploration of rational justifications for the existence of God. It's actually a very personalized examination/expose of Protestant Fundamentalism/Evangelism in the US.Despite that, I gave Mr Marks a chance and was soon drawn in to his story. Marks has a very good balance of fact and anecdote; and for the most part, the book is well-paced and well-structured. Some of the chapter transitions are awkward, but overall it's very readable. Marks writes with empathy about the folks who shared their faith with him, and it is easy for the reader to appreciate each person's personality and sincerity. Marks exposes his own story gradually, fairly effectively piecing together a picture of who he is and how he's come to this crossroads. As to the content... as an investigative piece, it's extremely interesting. Marks' background meant that folks opened up to him in a way that they probably would not do for an avowed atheist, hard core skeptic, or journalist. That he chose to collect this information while he was at a point of questioning the existence of his own faith gave him an uncommon opportunity to report from "the inside". He lets each of the faithful do their best to bring him back to the fold, and he presents their position so sympathetically that it's hard to tell which camp he's in for most of the book. That said, Marks seems to be operating from a problematic premise. He believes that he must make a conscious choice to "believe", and so is compiling worthwhile "reasons to believe." His approach is to explore why some of the most devout Christians in the U.S. believe. Of course, faith seems by definition to not be a rational choice, so what Marks actually has is more like a collection of how these uber-faithful practice their faith, and how it frames their lives. As a guidebook for someone questioning their own faith or lack thereof, I would not recommend this book. But if you want a non-judgmental, non-confrontational (and therefore, presumably more honest) presentation of how a lot of Protestant Evangelicals are viewing the world, and how they're likely to act on it, this book is totally worth the read.
7 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Fantastic personal story and look into today's evangelical world,
By Donna (Colorado, United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Reasons to Believe: One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind (Hardcover)
In Reasons to Believe, John Marks has done a fantastic job of telling two stories in one. First he tells his own story of finding, and later losing, faith in Jesus Christ. At the same time, he explores the world of evangelical Christians in America today. During his research he interviewed over 400 pastors, missionaries, and evangelical church members, and he ties together the results of the research with his past experiences into a beautiful, easy to read narrative. As he visits churches, catches up with old friends, and reads his teenage journals, he finds himself drawn back toward the faith that he abandonded. The book begins with a question posed to Marks by a preacher he interviewed while he worked for 60 Minutes, "Will you be left behind when the rapture comes?" Marks does not answer until the very last sentence of the book, creating a trail of suspense that believers and unbelievers alike will find impossible not to follow.
10 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Fair and balanced,
By Zoyd (New York, NY USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Reasons to Believe: One Man's Journey Among the Evangelicals and the Faith He Left Behind (Hardcover)
It's easy to ridicule the American Evangelical movement and their more outlandish beliefs, and a number of recent books have done so quite successfully, sometimes even entertainingly. But the problem with those kinds of books is that they're preaching to the (un)converted and that their polemical tone doesn't really help you understand the phenomenon of Christian fundamentalism in America. That's why I think REASONS TO BELIEVE fully deserves five stars: it's a great, in-depth, refreshingly non-partisan piece of reportage. That the author once considered himself a reborn Christian adds a fascinating and poignant personal angle to this journey across the American Christian landscape. If you want to seriously engage with Christian fundamentalists in America - whether you're a believer or not - this book is the best possible starting point.
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