I have 3 games from amazon all releasing on the 9th. The Fight, Sly Collection and Singstar Dance. 3 very different games. They all have the same late date, November 17, 2010 - November 22, 2010 estimated delivery date. Granted, I chose free shipping. However, I tried them at standard shipping and it didn't improve the delivery time. Instead of November 17th to November 22nd, it just said November 17th. I decided to put it back to free shipping obviously after seeing that. For all three of those games to be back ordered is a joke to me. They did this with the PS3 game Time Crisis Razing Storm. They gave me the same back ordered BS line for that too. I believed it then, but now I think its just a company line. I'm sorry but there is no way Sly Collection or Singstar Dance is going to be back ordered and although The Fight has alot of hype...I doubt thats going to be back ordered. I think amazon.com's video game service is degrading, I loved amazon, but overall, in the last month and half this is happening more and more. It's not surprising that they don't let people choose release date delivery, because they know they probably aren't going to have it immediately.