34 of 35 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
The Biggest Investment, March 27, 2009
This review is from: Remembering the Kanji, Vol. 1: A Complete Course on How Not to Forget the Meaning and Writing of Japanese Characters (Paperback)
Anyone who states that the Heisig method for learning kanji does not work, says so because they have not tried it. I, myself, was Anti-Heisig for a good 5 years after I saw it on the bookshelf. I remember picking it up and saying "Ha, this book is a joke! It ONLY teaches you the meaning? WHAT A JOKE!!", and I also remember putting it back on the shelf and walking away from it not knowing what a gold mine I had just passed up on. After finding about the AJATT method for learning Japanese (you MUST google AJATT if you really want to learn Japanese), I completed Heisig's Remembering the Kanji book 1 + 3 and in 6 months I was able to learn 3,000 kanji perfectly! I could recognize every single kanji in books and instead of drawing blanks when I would see kanjis, I now see meanings. After the 6 months of studying the kanjis, I started learning to read real Japanese kanji in context through sentences found in the Yahoo Jiten (Yahoo online Japanese Dictionary). After about a year of studying sentences with learning to read the kanji in context like a real Japanese person, I am able to communicate with online Japanese friends, have a normal conversation in Japanese, and read fiction books.
After Heisig, this is how you will learn Kanji readings. After looking up a word, let's say "Sunshine" you'll see that it is pronounced as "youkou" and it's kanjis are Sunshine+Ray. That's it, you're done. It's that simple! Now whenever you see Sunshine+Ray together you know it's read "youkou". After graduating from Heisig, you won't waste countless hours writing out the kanjis to memorize them because you HAVE ALREADY MEMORIZED THEM. That is a such a gift. Genius.
I used to HATE Heisig, I used to think that it was the stupidest way of learning kanji, but now after graduating from Remembering the Kanji, I bow my head in humility to Heisig because Remembering the Kanji and the AJATT method of learning Japanese have blessed me with the gift of fluency. I did it, and you can too.
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14 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
For students without a kanji-based primary education, this is the only way to go., October 14, 2007
This review is from: Remembering the Kanji, Vol. 1: A Complete Course on How Not to Forget the Meaning and Writing of Japanese Characters (Paperback)
Several reviewers have downgraded this book because it wasn't what they expected. You should know up front: the book teaches nothing beyond the kanji. You will not learn a single Japanese word from this book. This is the book's strength! With a little exertion of the imagination, you learn the Japanese characters in a rational way, through a technique called "component-analysis." That is, Mr. Heisig has broken the characters down into elements that combine with each other to produce more complicated characters.
Heisig's motto is "Divide and conquer." He isn't kidding. If you manage to get through this book--and I grant that it is not easy, just easier than the way the average Japanese child does it!--you will have overcome the greatest obstacle to fluency in Japanese. The grammar is not complicated and the vocabulary no harder than that of any other language. It is the task of learning about 2000 intricate ideographs that defeats most students.
Don't take my word for it: go to a website called "Reviewing the Kanji" and see for yourself. Check out another site called "Kanjiclinic." The book has strong partisans because it works.
Finally, while some students have had remarkable success, learning all 1945 kanji in as short a time as three months, don't be afraid to take your time. Consider: if it takes you 4 years to complete this book, learning 1-3 kanji a day in your spare time, you will have completed the task in less than half the time it takes a Japanese child, studying an hour or two every school day.
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12 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Bottom line: it works., September 20, 2010
This review is from: Remembering the Kanji, Vol. 1: A Complete Course on How Not to Forget the Meaning and Writing of Japanese Characters (Paperback)
Bottom Line: It works
Okay, so here's the bottom line. It _works_. It does precisely what it sets out to do. I've been studying the Japanese language since I was 13 years old; it's now been about 20 years of studying the language. It hasn't been entirely consistent; it has often been a few months on (full-bore), a few months off (after burnout). Before I worked through RTK, I was probably familiar with around 300-400 of the most frequently-used kanji. I could never seem to get much past that hump, it always felt very much like an uphill battle, and even though I'd hit the foot of the hill running full-bore, I'd never quite make it to the top before, exhausted, I'd start to slip downhill again.
I'd beat my head against a Japanese Reader (
A Japanese Reader: Graded Lessons for Mastering the Written Language (Tuttle Language Library)) for a while, which, though organized in such a way as to intrudce a few characters at a time, instead of leaving you to deal with whatever characters you may happen to find in other reading materials, still progressed fairly rapidly, and was also fairly outdated. Then I'd beat my head against some "real" reading material for a while. Then I'd try to ramp myself up on gradeschool-level texts, so there'd be fewer kanji to deal with; but this doesn't necessarily help so much, since kanji can often be a key to understanding a compound word's roots, and help a good deal in learning the words from which they're built.
The problem is, every time I came to an unfamiliar kanji, it would put a hard stop to the flow of my reading. I don't know the meaning, I don't know the pronunciation, I probably don't know the next couple of characters after it, and I don't know the word in which it's appearing. I can't continue reading until I've spent a while studying each individual character, how they're pronounced in this context, and what the word means in which they appear.
Since finishing volume one of RTK (about a week ago), reading is dramatically easier for me. I still don't know how to pronounce many of the characters, but since I'm already familiar with the character (which at this point has become like an old friend), it's easier for me to attach a pronunciation to it, since I'm no longer having to learn the pronunciation, _and_ the writing, _and_ the meaning (maybe - sometimes it's necessary to attach new meanings to old friends). Progress moves _much_ more quickly; and often, even if I haven't learned how to _pronounce_ a string of kanji, I can tell right away, from the Heisig keywords, and from surrounding context, what the word's meaning is. The first time I encountered '''''["okotte iru"] in some text after Heisig, I knew instantly what word it was (''''''roughly "is angry"), because I was already familiar with the Japanese word (but not its writing), and the Heisig keyword associated with that character was "anger". Similarly, words like ''["kantan"] (''''simplicity + simple/not complex = easy) and '''["tojiru"] (''', to close) are immediately clear at first encounter, without having to look them up (though doing so to learn the pronunciation is advisable).
Even words whose meanings don't happen to match the particular keywords I learned, such as ''["settei"] (''''establishment + fix (in place) = "preferences/settings" (for computer programs)?), or ["sakujo"]'' (''''plane + exclude = delete/remove?) are easy to remember, and deepen my understanding of the characters' true meanings ('["saku"] = plane, but also "to whittle"). Even learning ["'tama"] as "bullet", and then later discovering its use as ["hiku"] "play (an instrument)", isn't a problem: I already know how to write it, and one of its meanings, so it's easy to add the new meaning. Easier than learning it without context and without familiarity with its primitives ('bow + 'simple), and trying to learn it amidst a sea of other graphically unrelated characters surrounding it. Basically, just having something that takes away about one and a half (how to write + an approximation of the meaning) of the three or four things I usually have to study at once when learning a kanji - how to write it, what the character means, how to pronounce it in this specific context, and the meaning of the whole word or compound in which it appears - eases the process for me tremendously.
I wish I'd found and studied this book years ago, as I'd be much much further along in my understanding of Japanese at this point if I had.
What it does not do
But let's be clear: completing this book (or even this series) is not the end of your journey--not by a long shot. Having completed this book, you can't claim (or at least shouldn't, though many do) to "know" ~2,000 kanji characters. You do not. You _do_ know "how to write" about 2,000 kanji characters, and you know a meaning for each one (not necessarily the only meaning, or even the most usual meaning). You don't know how to pronounce a single one of these newly-learned kanji in a single context, unless you already knew beforehand. (If you proceed to volume 2, you will find a system to organize your learning of the "on'yomi" of the various characters, primarily based on signal primatives that give a strong clue to characters' pronunciation--I've heard many people say you don't need volume 2, and this is true, but I personally find it useful enough to have. Just take what you can use from it, and ditch the rest; don't feel obligated to do it exactly as laid out.)
So you've learned the kanji ' as "life". Good for you. But how about its meanings of "student", or "fresh", or "birth", or "breathe", or "grow"? Is it pronounced '' or ''', or maybe it's '' or '.''' or '.'' or '.''? Well, if you haven't learned what it means and how to say it in each of a variety of contexts (all commonplace), you can hardly claim to "know" it, can you? (If you're panicking at seeing how confusing it can be to know what a single character means and how to pronounce it, please relax: ' is a bit of an extreme example; while there are several characters that have a wide variety of meanings or pronunciations, most have only a couple, and in fact, many "kun'yomi" are shared across multiple kanji--which one should be used depends on the nuance intended, or context.)
Completing RTK vol. 1 is not the end or even the middle of your kanji-learning experience (unless of course, like me, you were already middle-ish in your kanji-learning journey). It is the beginning: it serves as an _excellent_ foundation (but _only_ the foundation) for proceeding to learn _real_ meanings and pronunciations in a variety of contexts, which is something you can only really get by reading plenty of material.
Note: The majority of complaints I've seen about the Heisig system seem to be that it doesn't do various things it's not trying to do in the first place--possibly because some of the people who complete the system claim that it does... "Now I know 2,000 kanji characters!" ...no, you don't. The other common complaint I hear is that no one who finishes this book goes on to gain an intermediate-to-advanced understanding of Japanese. This is silly, as in order for this to be true, the book would actually have to have some property that _prevents_ you from further study. Pssht. In any case, nearly every time this challenge is issued, someone steps forward as a counter-example.
Do not kid yourself that all you have to do is read and visualize each of the kanji in order, and you'll have learned to recognize 2,000 characters at the end of the book, without ever spending any time to review the ones you learned before. A few reviewers have complained that by the time they got to the end of the book, they'd forgotten all the previous characters from the rest of the book. Well, I mean, duh? Heisig not only never said you wouldn't have to do any reviews, but he outlines a specific system for you to use in reviewing them. So, um... review 'em.
Actually, I recommend ignoring his system for creating (and using) flashcards, and using a Spaced Repetition System (SRS) such as Anki, or [...] instead. Anki has several sets of flashcards for RTK that you can download right from within the application, and koohii is geared specifically for RTK. You will not only need to review, you will need to review a lot. You will become frustrated at how quickly you can forget kanji, or at least pieces of kanji, and how certain kanji (fortunately just a handful for me) keep slipping from your memory over and over (tip: if the "story" you're using isn't working, use a new one--however, some keywords may be inherently difficult to make associations for). The point isn't that RTK eliminates the need for repetitive review (he _does_ state that repeated _writing_ of kanji is unnecessary for learning, but that's different; either way, though, take that advice with a grain (or more) of salt), but that it significantly _reduces_ that need (you need to review, but instead of reviewing entire character forms, you're mostly reviewing stories, plus infrequent idiosyncratic changes to primitive forms, or unusual primitive positions).
Things it does poorly
Alright, now for some complaints about the book. Honestly, RTK sucks (it just happens to suck way less than any other method I've tried). The keywords chosen for kanji are frequently very poor choices (IMO). I imagine I'll never have a clue as to why the keyword "junior" was chosen for '. In several cases, the English keywords themselves are obscure, and I have to look them up in a dictionary. "Decameron"? Seriously?
Likewise, not enough effort is made to ensure the student chooses a helpful connotation of the keyword (Okay, the keyword is "mould". Is that "mould" as in "there's mould on my bread", or is it "mould" as in "to...
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