Customer Reviews

The Ren and Stimpy Show - Seasons Three and a Half-ish

5 star:		(18)
4 star:		(11)
3 star:		(5)
2 star:		(2)
1 star:		(11)

 

 

During the 1980's, animator John Kristfalusi had been trapped in the same rut as animators during those days. A time in which animators had absolutely zero input in the creation or writing of the shows they were forced to put some semblance of life into by networks who would create new animated television shows out of a need for marketing. The result was that the state of animation as an medium for expression was well and truly dead.

Enter John Kristfalusi. Along with pioneering one of the first animated shows completely created and written by the cartoonists, he and his Spumco team created the most widely remembered and one of the most celebrated attempts to revitalize the animation industry with the incredibly groundbreaking "Ren and Stimpy Show"

So.... what the hell happened?

Immediately constrained by the limitations and the aggravation of censors and executives who would not allow the show to become what it truly had the potential to be, and a vast misunderstanding of the revolutionary concept of the "Creator-driven-cartoon" (A term that the network ironically coined), Kristfalusi and his team of animation revolutionists faced roadblock after frustrating roadblock from day one.

Finally, after 2 incredible seasons, and faced with the realization that their meddling was more trouble than it was worth, the network opted for a solution to this problem. However, their solution was one that only a network would think to make... They had removed the duties of working on the show away from Kristfalusi, and attempted to hire away his writers. However, the bulk of them remaining loyal, only a small handful of Spumco employees stayed on.

The result is the beginning of the end, chronicled with this set.
This set is far more educational than enjoyable, especially for most fans of The Ren and Stimpy Show.

Beginning halfway into season 2 (while Spumco episodes were in various production stages), and truly beginning with the 3rd set is when the downfall of the Ren and Stimpy show begins it's steady plummet into a sad, and miserable fate.

The beginning of Season 3 plainly shows the newly appointed company "Games Productions" running off of the vapors of old Spumco ideas, without any clear idea on how to utilize them.

Halfway into season three upon nearly running out of Spumco ideas to steal and re-hash is when the show plummets in every conceivable venture. As it soon begins to become apparent that fresh and interesting ideas have made way to generic plots, it's as if the team just stopped caring or trying.

At this point without a central director, with whole episodes having no directors, and only names used for those that oversaw more aspects of the cartoons than others in place of a Directors Credit. It is this set and the Seasons 4 and 5 set, of R&S that show glimmers of potential being washed down the drain. WIth no potential being left at the end save for a miserable and well deserved cancellation.

However, I should point out that despite my seemingly negative review of the episodes themselves, this set is far from illustrating the indignancies that The Ren and Stimpy Show would receive by seasons 4 and 5. Which makes this set worth picking uip along with one other all important saving grace:

Commentaries.

The commentaries on this set, shows many of the original team watching and their reactions to the downward spiral of the show. But this is not all they do.

The commentaries are exceptionally insightful, offering glimpses of what Spumco's full ideas would have been, what they could have done, and the direction they were headed before the show took it's nosedive without them.

Most commentaries will prove to be INCREDIBLY insightful into the education of the process in which Ren and Stimpy were robbed of their formulas of success, and an incredible commentary for "Stimpy's Cartoon Show" which chronicles not only the demise of this show itself, but also a valuable history lesson about the decline of quality animation from the years of 1960 to 1990.

The set receives 3 stars out of 5 from me, because some fun can be dug up from witnessing the beginning of the end for the most original, and most revolutionary animated show of the 1990's.

Trust me... with the next set "Season Five and some more of Four" you will see worse. Much, much worse.

I have a lot of the episodes I recorded off of TV years ago. Well after I watched the DVD versions it is evident that a lot of things were cut.
One of my favorites "Road Apples" had probably some of the best parts of it cut out. One scene where Ren & Stimpy were told a bedtime story about "the phantom who stalks his victims and tears them limb from limb, but not before he bores them with endless hours of showbizz talk". Then, Ren & Stimpy are introduced to their new roommate Wilbur Cobb, who then proceeds to bore R & S with "endless hours of showbizz talk". Stimpy getting tired looks up at Wilbur and says "Excuse me Mr. Phantom, will you rip us limb from limb now?"
That is one of the funniest parts but yet it is omitted.
Don't buy it if you don't want your original memories of Ren & Stimpy ruined. I am going to petition Viacom and ask them for my money back.

You probably know very well what happened after the second season of Ren and Stimpy: Nick lures away a few Spumco workers, opens up a company called Games Animation, and Ren and Stimpy started dwindling in terms of quality and consistency with the fifth and final season having the worst episodes ever.

However, in the earlier stages, most of these Games episodes were originally written/storyboarded at Spumco and are the true hits, so this set isn't a total waste. Some of these include A YARD TOO FAR, REN'S PECS, STIMPY'S CARTOON SHOW, BASS MASTERS, LAIR OF THE LUMMOX and a few others as well. In addition you'll also get JIMINY LUMMOX, AN ABE DIVIDED, FARM HANDS, REN'S RETIREMENT, HOUSE OF NEXT TUESDAY, and maybe IT'S A DOG'S LIFE and EGG YOLKEO, which although not Spumco episodes (or maybe some of them are), they're still somewhat funny and bearable to watch.

We're not all sure what kind of extras will there be, but if there's a lot in this set, that'll definitely make this set worth buying. So far all I know this there will be commentaries from the original Spumco crew and a few of the Games artists.

Oh, Joy...

Am glad I rented this set down at the local video store before spending any real money. While it's interesting to see what Games did with the characters after Spumco, the majority of the cartoons don't have anywhere near the overall appeal of the first DVD set. And despite the fairly high artistic quality of the cartoons, the majority are unfunny and just plain mean-spirited... lots of violence, weird drawings and psychotic nonsense... for no apparent reason. These reek of the output of "content creators"... you know, it's just an advertisement delivery device, so who cares what it's about, as long as it captures the desired demographic.

The exceptions are mostly the cartoons originated at Spumco: Lair of the Lummox, Salve or Salve Not, some moments of No Pants Today, Yard Too Far and Ren's Pecs. I did think two Games creations were ok... An Abe Divided and Egg Yolkeo... the former having a pretty humorous story, the latter having a bizarre, but humorous story and a great Disney-esque animation of Ren freaking out at the end... but that's it. The rest have little to no replay value. The commentaries on the discs with the old Spumco crew are interesting... mostly being a lament on the demise of their creation... but it would've been even better to hear what the Games folks were thinking when they made these... their absence is telling... one thing is for sure, they made these for the money, baby!

Instead Paramount should have brought out a set of all the Adult Party Cartoons... including the ones SpikeTV never broadcasted... and maybe with a "best of" Games episodes disc.

My advice, if you are in doubt, go rent this at your local video store first.

I was extremely disappointed to find that at least three episodes (so far) contain significant cuts. For example, a few minutes are missing from the episode with Haggis McHaggis and the Leprechaun, which means they have even trimmed down the Nick re-run cuts from ten years ago. Viacom proves again to be sloppy and dismissive of fan interests when producing television show DVDs.

I am an Austrian(EU) customer and so I am forced to watch the(heavily cut)german television. I looked and recorded "Ren & Stimpy" from this television years ago. Now they released these two DVD-boxes(US)and I was very happy to be able (finally) to buy Ren & Stimpy "uncut" on DVD.
Now I am very angry and disappointed to find out, that the german Television showed many scenes, that are missing on these DVD's. So the Boxes are cut and my old recordings uncut = for me are these DVD-boxes worthless. Besides the picture-quality of the DVD's is on some Episodes worse compared to my recordings.
A Ren & Stimpy -fan

Don't let anyone tell you season three of this series marked a decline in the material. I've recently gone through the episodes in season three, and quite frankly, they're just as good, at times even better, in a wonderfully bizarre way, as episodes in season one and two. I realize that the Nick people began to take over, but I don't care about the politics of any of this. The proof is in the pudding, and the season three episodes added a whole new level of bizarre to what was already a great cartoon!

Well, I'm going to be the voice of "I rather like it" here, and say that this set was actually enjoyable for me. My favorite R&S episode ever, "The House Of Next Tuesday", is here, with the classic "Oh boy, that smells so good, I have to smell it again!" line that kept me and my friends in stitches for days. The other episodes - well, they really vary, some are good, IMO, others are just sick without any redeeming humor.

Not much else to say - video and sound quality are good, the menues work, and the commentaries are amusing. This set is only for people who already know that they like these episodes. If you don't, well, what are you reading this for?

A brilliant purchase. I got the first box set and this one is in the same style. If you were ever a ren and stimpy fan this will re-ignite your love for it ten-fold. Perfect sound and picture does the brilliant production justice. This is a real cartoon to me, highly animated, fun for all ages. I feel like I'm 10 again. I ordered this from Australia for cheaper than I can buy in the shops. Well worth the price with 3 full discs.

I think this is the best set ever, even though there not made by Spumco. The eirlier games episode were great! I love the box art.
Here`s the episode started at Spumco and finished at Games
1. To Salve And Not To Salve
2. A Yard To Far
3. No Pant Today
4. Ren`s Pecs
5. Stimpy`s Cartoon Show
6. Lair Of The Lummox
7. Bass Masters
Season Four
8. Eat My Cookies
9. Magical Golden Singing Cheese
10. EggYolkeo

Episodes made by Games
1. Circus Midgets
2. An Abe Divided
3. Jiminy Lummox
4. Ren`s Retirement
5. Jerry The Bellybutton Elf
6. Road Apples
7. Hard Times For Haggis
8. A Friend In Your Face
9. Ren`s Bitter Half
Season Four
10. Hermit Ren
11. House Of Next Tuesday
12. Blazing Entrails
13. Lumber Jerks
14. PreHistoric Stimpy
15. Farm Hands
16. Hard Day`s Luck
17. I Love Chicken
18. Powter Toast Man VS. Waffel Women
19. It`s A Dog`s Life

To bad there wasn`t alot of special features but thats ok,
So Enjoy!