Retaliation [Limited Edition, Original recording remastered]

Carnivore | Format: Audio CD

Product Details

• Audio CD (June 17, 2008)
• Original Release Date: 1987
• Number of Discs: 1
• Format: Limited Edition, Original recording remastered
• Label: Metal Mind
• ASIN: B0017M8YQC
• Also Available in: Audio CD  |  Audio Cassette  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
• Average Customer Review: 4.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (26 customer reviews)
• Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #199,741 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Track Listings

1. Jack Daniel's and Pizza

2. Angry Neurotic Catholics

3. S.M.D.

4. Ground Zero Brooklyn

5. Race War

6. Inner Conflict

7. Jesus Hitler

8. Technophobia

9. Manic Depression

10. U.S.A. for U.S.A.

11. Five Billion Dead

12. Sex and Violence

13. World Wars III and IV [*][Demo Version]

14. Carnivore [*][Demo Version]

15. The Subhuman [*][Demo Version]

Customer Reviews

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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Every hole in my body drips blood, August 7, 2004

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Jon Konrath "Jon" (San Francisco, CA) - See all my reviews

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This review is from: Retaliation (Audio CD)

This album is the perfect showcase of Pete Steele's sick sense of humor coupled with the band's ability to thrash out high-test, super-aggressive metal in a form that is both powerful and hilarious. From the orchestrated insults against Catholic school and a repressed childhood in "Angry Neurotic Catholics" to the primal energy (and incredible bass work) in "Sex and Violence", every song on this album is of the type you want to crank up to eleven when you have neighbors you want to aggrivate. The song "Jesus Hitler", the story of a reincarnation of the Nazi leader and the Christian messiah, is so hilarious that I had to listen to it about 863 times the summer I first got this tape. Pete Steele can SCREAM, too. His "NOTHING CAN STOP THE PAIN" in "Inner Conflict" is amazing.

The new CD version is good, with three demo tracks and some old photos I'd never seen with my original tape. I like the Type O Negative stuff a lot too, but I would not have minded another album or two in this direction. Still, this is great stuff and a must-have.

4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Perfect., January 6, 2004

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Q. "solrac1970" (Seekonk, MA USA) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Retaliation (Audio CD)

I can still remember the first time my friend let me borrow this tape ... I was 16 and it had just come out. I made the mistake of listening to this right before going to bed, and I listen to it over and over all night until the morning.

In my humble opinion, this is one of metals perfect albums, one of the few where everything just comes together oh so right. It's up there with Black Sabbath Paranoid and Slayer Reign in Blood. I've had a thousand metal albums go through my head these past 25 years or so and only a handful of albums stand out like this one does. You know how it is ... you hear 20 albums, maybe 1 you like enough to listen to a few times. Of those, how many do you still listen to after 5 years? 10 years? I'll still be listening to this one when I'm 90.

Through my two little brothers, I've helped introduced this album to the following two generations of teenagers ... it was hard for a while since it had been out of print for so long, but I had it on a combo CD from '91 ... and I wore out 3 or 4 copies of it on cassette when I could find it. "Oh, so you like Type O? Well check this out ..." It's amazing how well it holds up, and how many people like this better than Type O Negative's stuff. To be honest, I probably wouldn't like Type O at all if it hadn't been for Carni and I can still here Carni occasionally lifting it's beautifully ugly head every once in a while in Type O songs.

I went to a Type O / Cradle of Filth concert the other day with some friends and friends of friends. One young girl, CoF fan of perhaps 19, thought Type O was "boring". Later on I played her some Carni ... she loved it and asked me who it was thinking it was a new band. "Oh, this is Pete Steele's old band from the 80's."

Ya gotta love it.

6 of 7 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Inner Conflict, July 28, 2003

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Patrick Stott (Rolleston, Canterbury, New Zealand) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Retaliation (Audio CD)

Vegetarians beware!

The door crashes open, there are running footsteps, sounds of heaving and coughing, the contents of a stomach splatter into a toilet bowl. After a bit more coughing, puking and spitting, the toilet is flushed. This is the greatest introduction to an album this side of Slayer's "Hell Awaits".

Then the music kicks in. Not just a light tap with the foot, but an almighty great steel capped heave to the groin, off a 10-yard run up! Who knows what Carnivore were railing against on "Retaliation", but it's sure to have been mortally wounded. In the year or so that passed between the self-titled debut and the second album, Pete Steele and co. sent their sound to the gym. The faster parts are faster, heavier parts are heavier, it's vocally more brutal, and lyrically more focused.

The band really stepped on the accelerator in all departments right from the opening track of the album, the wonderfully titled "Angry Neurotic Catholics", which sees Pete fighting with inner demons, contemplating suicide to escape sin-induced guilt. This is thrash the way it should be played- heavy, unstoppable, uncompromising, with proto-blast beats, shouty choruses, intense riffing, all with just a hint of melody to hook the listener. These are just downright catchy headbanging tunes. Pete had been pondering religion, the reasons behind world conflicts, and examining the human psyche, which he expressed in his own blunt politically incorrect way. The vocals are delivered with more venom than on the previous album. Steele had developed a more hardcore vocal delivery, and included spoken word rants in several tracks.

There was something spookily prophetic about this album too. Two tracks in particular, "Ground Zero Brooklyn" and "USA for USA" both have taken on a new significance since the events of September 11th. "All the bulls**t countries who think they'll beat the giant, World peace in upheaval, We'll nuke 'em to the Stone Age, send the message clear, Ya don't f**k with the eagle!" Sound familiar?

This is music with balls. Great big hairy tattooed leather-clad ones.