With Reverence and Awe: Returning to the Basics of Reformed Worship [Paperback]

D. G. Hart (Author), John R. Muether (Author)

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• Paperback: 203 pages
• Publisher: P & R Publishing (April 2002)
• Language: English
• ISBN-10: 0875521797
• ISBN-13: 978-0875521794
• Product Dimensions: 9.3 x 6.3 x 0.6 inches
• Shipping Weight: 10.4 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
• Average Customer Review: 4.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (6 customer reviews)
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27 of 30 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars carefully and prayfully done introduction to traditionalist reformed worship, April 10, 2006

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R. M. Williams "just an avid reader" (tucson, arizona USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: With Reverence and Awe: Returning to the Basics of Reformed Worship (Paperback)

I would love to have hated the book. TO have found it to be lousy boring writing, with no redeeming value, that way i could dismiss the ideas themselves as the ravings of a madman traditionalist bent only on preserving the archaic past at all costs. Actually i kind of read the first 100 pages or so with this attitude, however the tightness of the argumentation and the mostly soundness of the ideas at least broke through this shell and stopped my mental arguments with the authors long enough to listen. I am Biblically conservative but i am not conservative either politically or socially, my first response to new ideas is almost always to the left, to the progressive, away from traditionalist and conservative explanations. In general i don't really understand conservatives, sometimes they're just plain stupid, often ignorant, always a pain to deal with, however i can profitably read conservative books like this one, if i can hold on to the idea of "the willing suspension of disbelief" long enough to hear their arguments. So it you think i'm predisposed to agree with the book, you're wrong.

So what is the big deal? The book is part of a Sunday School class on Reformed Worship, i've reviewed two other books in the reading list, have more to go. This is the first right side, or traditionalist book i've read on the topic, i don't think i've put quite as many "!?" markings in a book in a long time-my questionable point. It is however an excellent source in the reading, i appreciate the authors positions, as i hope the rest of the review demonstrates. The writing is very well done, particularly the tightness and logicalness of the reasoning. It has the marks of someone who has thought, taught and researched the issue for a number of years, one or two line summaries that act as strong shaping principles (which i'll try to quote below), a progression in argumentation starting with basic principles and arguing towards the disputed ones. You don't have to agree with ideas to appreciate the well done form that they take here, it is a carefully and prayfully done work that the authors ought to feel proudly about, having done a good and worthwhile job. You can pick up the book anywhere and read a few pages to get the flow of the work and see if you would profit from the time spent reading it, however i think chapter 5 "Acceptable Worship" is the most meaty and my personal favorite. If like me, you read and appreciated J.Frame's Worship in Spirit and Truth, this book is a direct assault on those ideas, the pair together are probably more correct than either alone is.

So What is it all about?

a few notes and pull quotes for reference---

Introduction:
originated as Sunday School Lessons at two different OPC's.
i personally do not see the usual effects of two writers, i can not tell two different lines of thought or two different ways of writing. how they wrote the book or divided up the task is invisible to me.

"Christians seem to have an easy time starting a fight over worship".pg 11
"how ought we to evaluate innovations in our churches?" "where does the Bible encourage us to design worship for outsiders?" pg 12
"Because of the close connection between good theology and appropriate worship, corporate acts of praise and devotion that conflict with Reformed theology must flow from unsound doctrine. In effect our worship provides a barometer of our theology?" pg 14 my first !? notes, of many
"this means that we are incapable by our own intelligence, strength, or sincerity of devising God-honoring worship". pg 14
Outlining our Study:
first, who is it that worships?
when to worship?
what is the regulative principle? what is the dialogical principle and how does it shape our liturgy?
what is the place of worship in the means of grace?
what are the elements and circumstances of worship?
our task is to show that such faithfulness to Reformed doctrine also requires loyalty to a certain kind of worship? pg 21
the theme of the book: "We were created to serve God, and our worship on the Lord's Day should be conducted to give him the glory and honor that belong to him along as our Creator, Redeemer, and Sustainer." pg 22

1. The Church and the World
our churches seem to be more concerned about winning the approval of the world and less on guard against the dangers of conforming to the world pg 26
(in worship) we leave the world and its cares and duties to enter into God's presence. pg 26
the church's otherworldliness, the contra mundum, against the world or fallen humanity in rebellion against God pg 29
this internal threat is deadly precisely because it denies the separateness of the church by graducall merging the church with the world under the guise of peace. an all embracing paganism results, Machen warned, when the church forsakes its call to holiness and pursus worldliness pg 30
the very act of worship, of assembling in the presence of God, therefore, is simultaneously the church's renunciation of the world. Worship is subversive and countercultural act of an alien people who, forsaking the world, list to the voice of her master saying, "follow me". pg 33-34

2. The Purpose of the Church
the wrong idea of the church as a means of social or cultural transformation. exercise of social influence, the social gospel, liberal Protestant theology as allowing the world to set the church's agenda. pg 40
the task of the church is to exalt its head, to teach only the doctrines he has revealed, to worship him as he has commanded, and to order its life by what he has ordained. pg 41
competing models of the church, Christ's command to his disciplines in the Great Commission, the starting point to understand the purpose of the church pg 43
the misunderstanding of the church and worship as vechicles for evangelism rather than the wider task of making disciplines while rejecting the idols of this world. pg 48

3. A Worshiping Community
in the same way that the marks of the church tell us how to find the true church, so also corporate worship helps us identify the church. worshipis essential to the church's identity. pg 55
the church that properly worships will be peculiar to the world. its way will seem odd and irrelevant, and its language will sound strange. pg 60

4. The Holy Day of Worship
without financial support from the stae churches have been forced to adopt market strategies to grow and develop. pg 64
problems with revivialism: chief means for determining genuine spirituality, intense and earnest times of spirtiual awakening have been used to distinguish the saved from the lost.
the Sabbath is designed to work slowly, quietly, seemingly imperceptively, in reorienting believers' appetites heavenward. it is not a quick fix nor is it necessarily a spiritual high. we all have to return to our day jobs. pg 65
the problem of the spirituality of the mountaintop experiences is that no one can live on the mountain. pg 65
the distinction between the holy and the profance lies at the heart of biblical teaching about the Sabbath and worship. pg 71
Scripture instructs us to distinguish among activities that are holy, those that are inherently sinful, and those that are common or lawful on other days. pg 72
"God calls Christians to live holy lives. He calls us to live in the world and to work out our salvation in fear and trembling. He also commands us, at set times and places, to participate in holy things that are distinct from the ways of the world. God has given us a holy meal(the Lord's Supper), holy water(baptism), holy words(preaching), and a holy vocation(the minister of the Word). He has also given us holy time: one day for worship and rest. Contrary to popular claims, Reformed Christains do believe in a liturgical calendar. But it is weekly, not seasonal." pg 73

5. Acceptable Worship
regulative principle: do in worship only what God requires is a consequence of the 10 Commandments.
normative principle: what is not forbidden is permissible. pg 78
Calvin argued that we worship for God's glory, only secondarily for our edification and not in the least for our pleasure. pg 79
it is premised on such unchanging truths as the character of God, the extent of human depravity, and the command to love our neighbor. pg 82
elements are the what, circumstances are the how of worship pg 86

6. Reformed Liturgy
the gathering of God's people out of this world and into His presence. it is impossible to understand public worship apart from the church in its corporate or visible character. pg 91
the premises of Reformed theology-God's sovereignty, cration, and providence: man's depravity; Christ's mediation; the Holy Spirit's saving application of Christ's work; and the centrality of Scripture-should be implicitly present in Reformed liturgy. pg 93
but the principle of covenantal or dialogical worship, following biblical patterns of worship, challenges this distinction by insisting that all of worship is vertical. it is a holy transaction or conversation between God and his people. pg 96
the blessing of vertical worship is sufficient for our edification. we do not need to hear things from each other in worship to be blessed or encoraged or convicted.
we need not tinker with the dialogical structure to add therapeutic features that appear to give encouragement and support. pg 97

7. Leading and Participating in Worship
current retreat from clericalism of the Westminster divines is the popular doctrine of the priesthood of all believers. pg 105
listening and appropriating are activities that require concentration and spiritual discipline. pg 113

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31 of 36 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Finally Sanity in the Worship Wars, November 1, 2002

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"hml1880" (Baltimore, MD USA) - See all my reviews

This review is from: With Reverence and Awe: Returning to the Basics of Reformed Worship (Paperback)

Hart and Muether have written a book on Presbyterian worship that is instructive for most Christian traditions. The reason is that they ask simple questions that most discussions of contemporary worship beg. Why is it better if it's more emotional? Who says that worship HAS to be seeker-sensitive? Why would something foreign to most non-believers be redesigned to make them feel at home? Just as important is the authors' decision to set some ground rules for discussions of song and music appropriate to corporate worship. Too often the debates begin and make little progress beyond musical preferences. Hart and Muether ground such considerations in a broader range of theological topics. Any pastor, church officer or person serving on a worship committee of the local parish should read this book, which is an easy one.

9 of 10 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars Outstanding Primer, September 24, 2005

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C. W. Strickland (CA USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: With Reverence and Awe: Returning to the Basics of Reformed Worship (Paperback)

The authors call this book a "primer" on Reformed worship, and it fulfills that role well. It does not cover the topic of Reformed worship exhaustively, since that would require many hundreds, if not thousands of pages, but it presents the basic ideas behind Reformed worship well. It does not contain very many specific suggestions for the conduct of worship, but it should be possible for the reader to apply the principles described in the book to a wide variety of questions with relative ease.

If you are not familiar with the term "Reformed," it refers to the group of Protestant denominations that derive their theology from the works of John Calvin. These churches have historically been dominant in Geneva, Switzerland, the Netherlands, and Scotland. In the United States, they are represented today by a cluster of denominations that include the words "Reformed" or "Presbyterian" in their names, such as the Christian Reformed Church (CRC) and the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC). It does not include those denominations that followed the modernist side in the fundamentalist/modernist debate of the early 20th century, such as the Presbyterian Church, USA (PCUSA). Some denominations, such as the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA), bear some features of the Reformed tradition, while also exhibiting many features of the separate tradition of American evangelicalism.

Messrs. Hart and Muenther are from the OPC, and their views are sometimes too limited to that particular denomination, e.g., their discussion of Sunday evening worship. In addition, the work is overly severe in a few places. Overall, however, the book is an excellent and timely call for the Reformed church to pay attention to its worship and to ensure that its worship is thoroughly consistent with Reformed theology.