Customer Reviews

Rogue Spear Black Thorn

5 star:		(8)
4 star:		(2)
3 star:		(5)
2 star:		(3)
1 star:		(1)

 

 

When I first heard about "Black Thorn" I'll admit I was pretty excited, especially after hearing so many good predictions. Buying the game when it came out was on the top of my list, and sure enough that is what I did. Well now I'm sure you are just dying to know my opinion aren't you? :O) I'll begin with the negative points, first off the single player missions are not incredibly challenging despite a few brain teasing moments. It took me less than a week to knock off all of it's nine missions, if I had more time to myself it might of been a lot shorter. Also, it's thirty dollar price tag is a little steep, even if it is a stand alone mission pack. On the plus side of things, the nine missions this game provides are in some very impressive environments both size wise and graphical wise. Not only that, most of these missions prove themselves to have a high replayablity factor in both normal and special (terrorist hunt, lone wolf etc.) modes. Some new weapons have been introduced for all you single player lovers out there, including the impressive 7.62mm SSG3000 SR Sniper Rifle and the 5.7mm P90 SMG sub machine gun which is a personal favorite of mine. Multi-player fans will love some of the new weapons that have been added just for them such as the 5.56mm M82 AR assault rifle and the impressive 9mm SPP Pistol. The storyline is not so bad itself either and was pretty well thought out, but don't worry I won't give it away. So while this game is a little pricey, any Rainbow fan can't be without this overall impressive mission pack.

This game continues with the great graphics that Red Storm has been consitant with, HOWEVER, I managed to finish this game in about 2 hours. The only challenge was the many "beat the clock" type scenarios.

BUT, if you never played any of the Rainbow Six collection, this is a must to get you started.

Get it and start wacking TANGO's left and right!

More of the same, nuthin' new really. A few new weapons, no new unis, 9 new maps. Really, the Rogue Spear franchise has grown tired and this is a last gasp effort to pull in some green before Ghost Recon leaves Rogue Spear in the dust.

I just picked up a copy of "Black Thorn" and am already into the third mission of the Single Player Mode. I thought that the setup interfaces ran a bit smoother than the previous Rogue Spear games. The new weapons are cool. The new maps look and feel even cooler! As far as AI goes, I am playing in "Elite" mode and am a little disappointed with the AI's ability to come at me. Sometimes I will enter a room and the "Tango" will kinda stand there, allowing me to "pop" a cap in him before he reacts. Would be nice to have a fairly agressive opponent in the Single Player mode. But I bet the Multiple Player can remedy that fairly quickly for me. So buy and check it out!

I am a seasoned RS (Rainbow Six/ Rogue Spear) player. I have bought every game in the series. Including this one. I didn't even download the Demo because I was expecting it to be brilliant. I must say, I Love ther RS series. (...) I could have made similar maps (the only real thing that changed) myself. Basically, if you know and love the RS series, wait until the price drops to get the maps. If this is your first introduction into the RS series. BUY IT NOW, then go buy the older ones if you liked it.

Unlike Rogue Spear and Urban Operations, which were developed by the very talented people at Red Storm Entertainment, Black Thorn was developed by a team of UbiSoft employees in their Montreal office who were trained by people from RSE, but who obviously lack their talent. The level design, modelling, and particularly the texturing were second-rate and amateurish, and doesn't compare to the quality of RSE's work on the previous installments in the Rainbow Six/Rogue Spear series.

If you are a fan of Red Storm Entertainment's work then it might be worth buying for the bonus CD (American version only) that contains a feature on the making of Ghost Recon, but don't expect Black Thorn to be on par with Red Storm Entertainment's previous work in Rogue Spear or Urban Operations, or even Covert Operations for that matter. If it weren't for the bonus CD about Ghost Recon, I would have returned it and asked for my money back, it's that bad.

Contrary to the rave reviews that UbiSoft employees have been posting around the net posing as fans and customers, Black Thorn is by far the worst in the series - hardly "the best" as they have been claiming.

Black Thorn was fun and cheap. I owned it before but had to rebuy. It is a must buy. Love it!

I really like this game as it's classic Tom Clancy format. I only wish the variety of weapons had been tweaked a little more in the grenade department and a few more handguns and rifles such as the XM-8, Svd, and maybe even AK type rifles for use in the single player aspect of the game. But hey, I understand that it's impossible to have it all. The A.I. of the terrorists seems surprisingly challenging on Elite difficulty. All in all, it's a nice way to relax after a long day at school or the office.

Urban Ops was a lot better. The online play addition was nice, but that's all this game is really good for. The earlier R6 games have much better environments and provide a much greater challenge. I think it's pretty bad when one can complete this game on the Veteran setting in under two hours. On the brighter side, the weapons additions are very nice. I'm not too sure how many are added (and they are only available on the multiplayre setting), but they are all pretty fun to play around with. It gives a sense of what the enemy is using against you.

Well I think the game was good but it seemed a complete re-hash of all the different Rainbow Six and Rogue Spear games! UBI - SOFT, you can do better! Firstly, when you shoot the lights, they don't blow up or stop emmitting light! One good thing is that - they did this in Urban Ops - when you shoot the fire extinguishers, spray does come out and it stops, but when you shoot it again it sprays for exactly the same length of time, also the guns, as someone wrote in a different review, have been described wrongly, some of them take the wrong ammo!

Disappointing!

Covert Ops came out on the 1st March 2002 and I have ordered it, it takes AGES to arrive! It better be better than this!

Apart from a few mistakes, the game is worth buying and you do NOT need any other Rainbow Six game or Rogue Spear game!

Covert Ops also does not need any previous version of Rainbow Six or Rogue Spear!

I also reccommend The TOM CLANCY book called RAINBOW SIX. It is very good and if you haven't already played the FIRST Rainbow Six game, then read the book first!