13 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
So far, so good!, July 16, 2008
This review is from: Saeco A-SPV-BK Spidem Villa Super-Automatic Espresso Machine, Black (Kitchen)
I picked this unit up about a week ago for $379. It appears Amazon has now raised the price. Like others, I was skeptical about the quality of this machine for the price. In the end I decided instead of paying $1,000 or so for a machine that generically seem to break down a fair amount, I'd try this one since the reviews were pretty good. The logic being that if this one self-destructs I'll only tear out half my hair. If it happened with a $1,000 model, I'd pull it all out!
As for the Villa Spidem itself, after a week we're very pleased. The operation is not completely intuitive so you definitely need to read the manual (even though the manual is not a sterling example of clarity). Once you get the hang of it though, which doesn't take long, you're in for some fine coffee. From a cold start (that is if you have the machine turned off), it will grind and brew a cup in under two minutes. If the machine is already on, your cup will be ready in about 30 seconds. All this by just pushing a button. By using the dial on the front of the panel you can vary the brew from a tiny espresso to an Americano and every gradient in between. We are using Altura Cafe's French Roast as our first bean and the result is very tasty.
Complaints: All minor at this point. If you want to go from brewing to foaming some milk, the machine will balk until you vent a bit of the hot water out first...takes about 5 seconds. Also as has been pointed out, both the bean and the water hopper in particular are a bit on the small side, but for one or two users I'd call it a non-issue. If you have a family of 4 or 5 heavy users, you'll probably go through two waters and one hopper of beans in a day. Finally, it is a bit noisy. Like one of Pavlov's dog, I've grown to like the sound because I know it means satisfaction is moments away, but I suppose if I was hosting a party and making a bunch of coffees it would be distracting.
A promise: The machine is virtually all plastic and it's hard to believe that it will last. Countless reviews on super-automatics testify to the inherent weakness of these machines in general. If this machine breaks down I will edit/update this review. If you're reading this with no update you can assume it's still making our delicious daily coffee.
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12 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Quite the workhorse - Amazing value, October 18, 2008
This review is from: Saeco A-SPV-BK Spidem Villa Super-Automatic Espresso Machine, Black (Kitchen)
My university had the Concordia 2500i (approx. $15k per unit - light commercial, really) in various locations, which started my super-automatic obsession. I very nearly bought that unit for myself when I found it on liquidation for $5k, but decided that the sheer size of that unit would not be feasible in a household (about 3'x2'x2').
So, I settled on the Jura-Capresso F9, a slick-looking chrome-plated super-automatic for $1800. The coffee was great, not quite as good as the $15k commercial machine, but infinitely better than regular pre-ground drip brewed. Realizing I spent nearly as much time at work than I do at home, I decided to purchase a super-automatic unit for my office as well...the drip-brewed coffee in the kitchen was simply unacceptable!
Knowing that with 100 other people roaming around the building it would probably get abused a bit, I decided on the Spidem Villa machine purely due to price--I paid about $350 for it on sale. I figured at a fifth of the price of the Capresso, if it was destroyed in a few months, no big deal and lesson learned. After 6 months, this machine has proved to be a pretty amazing addition to such an environment.
The good:
*At first I thought so much plastic was a little awkward, but it has made cleaning a snap--it's so simple to just pull all of the pieces out, rinse off in the sink, and put it back together. With all of the use this machine gets, easy cleanup is a must.
*Has knobs for both "grind" and "dosage" settings for beans in the hopper area, so taste is fairly customizable.
*Coffee is excellent. I would rate, on a scale of 1 to 10, the coffee produced of the following machines:
Concordia: 9
Capresso F9: 8
Spidem Villa: 7
Cuisenart Grind 'n Brew: 4
Standard drip coffee maker w/ Folgers: 1
*And, in my opinion, the BEST feature is the removable brewing block. The entire bottom portion of the front (below the line you see just above the "Villa" wording) swings open to reveal the inside, and the brewing block has a handle to pull it out with. It's sturdy, and I've had no problems simply rinsing the whole block in the sink under running water. This makes cleanup after semi-oily beans feasible (which makes using cheaper, semi-oily beans feasible - try the 3-lb bags of Starbucks French Roast from Costco for $20). This is MUCH simpler than my F9 unit, which is completely closed and self-contained, cannot handle any oil on beans whatsoever (I generally use Illy for that at $28/lb), and requires expensive cleaning tablets and auto-cleaning cycles that take 20 minutes.
*I never turn the unit off - seems to work just as well, and is always ready to make a cup of coffee.
*Has made 1 to 2 dozen cups of coffee a day for about 6 months and shows no signs of slowing down.
*Very simple to use. The F9 has 17 buttons, and each button seems to do a dozen different things. This unit has 3 buttons and 4 knobs, and all have a specific purpose. Some might say "lack of functionality", but that was exactly what I was looking for. Makes espresso, coffee, and steams milk. The knob on the front to change the quantity of coffee made is especially convenient (ranges from about 1 oz for espresso to 8 oz for a full cup of coffee). To use just turn the knob to the desired quantity of water and press the button - that's it.
Bad:
*No warning for running out of water in the reservoir. The F9 won't make coffee without water, and this one will just continue, run dry and make awful noises. It is difficult to see how much water remains without lifting up the lid since the reservoir is in the back of the unit.
*Errors - for the utter lack of functionality this unit has numerous things that can go wrong, and all errors are denoted by the same red blinking light, whether it has run out of water, run out of beans, has the drip tray not properly seated (this happens a lot - have to push the tray in all the way), unit not "primed" (simply requires turning the hot water/steam knob on the right side to get hot water running through the unit), etc.
*The "puck drawer" where used grounds are disposed of is not designed very well. Pucks will be dumped into the drawer, and if not dumped regularly, will exceed the height of the drawer so that when it is pulled out any grounds higher than the walls of the drawer are swiped off into the inside of the unit. This will happen after even 6 or 7 pucks are dumped (since they're all dumped on top of each other on one side of the drawer and stack up) which requires a lot of cleaning and brushing to get all of the grounds back out. Dump the puck drawer often!
I hope this info helps. I found buying my first super-automatic a very frustrating experience with so many brands, models and price points and not knowing where to begin. If price isn't an issue, go with a nice Capresso - they're very slick looking and make excellent coffee. Go to Williams-Sonoma or Sur la Table where you can test the various models first.
If you're just entering the super-automatic market and want to try something more reasonably priced, this is an awesome machine to start with. If you already recognize the taste difference between pre-ground Folgers and a Cuisenart Grind 'n Brew, I would 100% absolutely recommend saving up the little extra money for this machine in lieu of the grind 'n brew models.
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