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26 of 28 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Author's comments,
By Brendan Morrissey (Surrey, England) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Saratoga 1777: Turning Point of a Revolution (Campaign) (Paperback)
As the author of "Saratoga 1777" I thought I would add to the review by William C Roege Jnr, to give further help to anyone thinking of buying it. [NB: I had to provide a rating in order to get the review accepted, so I have repeated Mr Roege's 3 stars - personally, I'd say 4 was fairer, but then I'm biased!]1) Mr Roege is correct in observing that the book is written from "the other side of the hill." My main objective with this book and my others on Boston and Yorktown - I hope to cover all the campaigns of this conflict in due course - is to show the war from a British perspective (as opposed to a British bias). More recently, this conflict has been covered almost exclusively by American authors, who often make false (if understandable) assumptions about how and why British commanders and politicians did what they did. The Revolutionary War generated some amazing mythology, much of it still widely accepted on both sides of the Atlantic, and I do try to debunk some of these myths by offering alternative interpretations and accounts of events to set the reader thinking (even if he/she does not agree with my views). 2) If some of the sentences were too complex, I apologise - that is my fault, as well as the editor's, although I suspect some of it may just be a trans-Atlantic "thing" (two nations separated by a common language and all that). Or maybe my vocabulary and syntax have been influenced by the more verbose and complex sentence structures of 18th century writers - I certainly didn't write like that 20 years ago when I graduated and started work! 3) In answer to his criticism of the maps (actually the three bird's eye views, or BEVs) the purple should have been crimson, to indicate the three North American ethnic groups - Loyalists, Native Americans and Canadiens (sic)- fighting for the British and differentiate them from the Regulars. As crimson, I suspect it would have been more obvious who it represented, but it was omitted from the caption boxes for reasons I cannot explain. In fact, I have already mentioned to the publisher that the colour generally on the BEVs is much darker in the book than it was on the proofs. 4) It was impossible, due to limited space and colour pages, to break down the fighting at Hubbardton any further. I had to lose a colour plate and some b/w illustrations - and bargain hard - in order to get a fourth BEV (the series norm is only three) and to get the extra maps to show the fighting of September 19 (the book has 11 maps, as opposed to the normal five). 5) Placement of BEVs/maps relative to the text is based on where the groups of colour pages can fall within the book (eg Map 1 had to be in b/w to keep it at the front of the book). Every effort is made to put them in the right place, but given the restrictions of the format, sometimes it is just not possible, especially where a lot of illustrations or maps relate to one particular passage of text. 6) The landscape photos aim to show as much of the battlefield as possible, to give the reader an idea of the "lie of the land" and why things happened the way they did (often not obvious to a modern-day audience). In an ideal world, Mr Roege's suggestion would help, but often it is difficult to superimpose arrows etc where there are extreme contrasts - eg light skies and dark forests - in close proximity, as in most of these photos. As a general remark, the aim of the Osprey Campaign series is not to provide the "last word" on any particular event, but to collate current knowledge and latest research into one volume and thereby stimulate thought and further reading (as it did for Mr Roege). I would like to thank Mr Roege for his time and trouble in reviewing my book. His criticisms are noted and I will keep them in mind when writing future titles for the series.
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Good text. Excellent maps, minor quibbles,
By A Customer
This review is from: Saratoga 1777: Turning Point of a Revolution (Campaign) (Paperback)
A fairly new resident of New York State, this book opened up my eyes to many of the events in my area. I'm an amateur in Militray History. I know the difference between a smoothbore and a rifle, but I had to look up what "refusing" a flank entailed. I can't accurately comment on the veracity or completeness of the book. It seemed convincing and fully fleshed. Illustrations are good, though not stellar. They have a lot of information in them, but are all of the "action" type. I'd like to have a few of whole formations, rather than complete chaos. Maps are excellent, the one complaint is that many of the 2page 3D maps have their center of interest in, well, the center, where the binding runs through them, forcing you to stress the cover. I had no problems reading the keys or understanding the color coding, nor any issues with the placement of the illustrations. I would recommend reading over the maps _before_ reading the main text. It will aid your understanding greatly. As far as the text goes, I found it concise and engaging, much more accesible than many history books, even the popular types. In neither pandered to the neophyte, nor assumed a degree in hsitory. Granted, You'll need some companion information on 18C. warfare to fully enjoy it, but it is readable enough on it's own.
6 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Excellent British Summary of the Battle,
By Michael Huggins (Irvine, CA United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Saratoga 1777: Turning Point of a Revolution (Campaign) (Paperback)
I've been waiting a long time for a book like this - one that combines effective, very good writing, with excellent photos, maps, and illustrations. That is a tribute to the Osprey style of Campaign books, but also to Mr. Morrissey as well. I enjoyed his text very much. I had no problem with the British slant (as Mr. Morrissey described himself on this site), even as an American who grew up not far from where events depicted occurred. I hope that the NPS and NY State make this excellent book available for purchase at the Battlefield and other nearby, related State sites.I do have one small quibble. Mr. Morrissey observes that the Jane McCrea incident was overblown and not as a strong factor in mobilizing rebel forces as has been depicted by other, usually American, sources. Maybe he is correct with regard to the incident strictly by itself. Even though Miss McCrea may have been killed by an errant American shot, it's propaganda value must be viewed in the context of other "related" incidents that occurred. One day prior to Miss McCrea's death, a loyalist family was wiped out by Burgoyne's indians in the Argyle area of Washington (then Charlotte) County, not far from Fort Edward. The killing party was reported to be the same as the one blamed for McCrea's death. The murdered victims consisted of John Allen, a farmer; his wife, Eva Kilmer Allen; Eva's young sister Catherine Kilmer; the Allen children, two very young boys (one an infant); and two African-Americans, a girl and a young man. Although the family were loyalists, all citizens in that part of the County quickly heard the news. That news coupled with the reported killing of Jane McCrea caused widespread alarm to Loyalists and Whigs alike. Given that General Burgoyne had earlier issued a proclamation warning the citizenry that he would unleash his savages on the recalcitrant population - the fact that loyalty to the King apparently meant nothing was not lost on anyone. Therefore, the effect of the massacres (even if Jane McCrea's was not what it was initially reported as), I think, should not be treated lightly. Regardless of that, I would eagerly recommend this book to others interested in the events. The book is a wonderful teaching aid. Although I've read much on the events (as a direct descendant of Eva and Catherine Kilmer's father, and a former Washington Co. resident), this book added much to my understanding of the battle and related events.
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