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*Starred Review* In the second volume, after Off Armageddon Reef (2007), of the saga of the planet Safehold, Weber employs a superb cast of characters and plenty of action to escalate the conflict between the Group of Four and the Church of God Awaiting. Among the outstanding players are King Cayleb of Charis and his adviser, the warrior-monk Merlin, and when readers find out that Merlin is really the avatar of the woman Nimue, who, along with Earth itself, is long dead, they may realize that Weber has combined the Matter of Britain and the Protestant Reformation and outfitted them in sf trappings. By the end of this novel, they may suspect, too, that the Thirty Years’ War has been added to the mixture. They will be certain that the by-then emperor Cayleb’s love for his empress is only the first of new difficulties that will assail him in the next volume. They can rest assured of Weber’s usual mastery of anything having to do with ships, whether sailing or hyperdriven. This fine book gives new luster to Weber’s reputation and new pleasure to his fans. --Roland Green


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"A superb cast of characters and plenty of action... This fine book gives new luster to Weber's reputation." - BOOKLIST, STARRED REVIEW ON BY SCHISM RENT ASUNDER "Along with its predecessor, this second installment of an important SF saga belongs in all libraries. Highly recommended." Library Journal, starred review" --This text refers to the Mass Market Paperback edition.

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  • Hardcover: 512 pages
  • Publisher: Tor Books (July 22, 2008)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0765315017
  • ISBN-13: 978-0765315014
  • Product Dimensions: 9 x 6.1 x 1.7 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.7 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (86 customer reviews)
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53 of 58 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Weber's skill shows, but the concept isn't new., August 9, 2008
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By Schism Rent Asunder is the second book in a new series by David Weber. This book follows up on "Off Armageddon Reef," which established that the world called "Safehold" is a colony of humans that were brainwashed into scientific backwardsness to defend them from the attacks of a genocidal alien race. Set in a time where Safehold has the infrastructure of 17th century Europe and is controlled by a rigid overarching theocracy, "Schism" follows the political machinations in the aftermath of the failed attack by the Church's allies on the island nation of Charis in the first book. Assisted by Merlin, an android with the memories of a woman who was killed in battle 800 years earlier, before the mutiny on the colony ship that brought the people there, Charis prepares for all-out war by seeking allies to defend herself. Much of the content involves meetings, discussions and the like of the various factions involved in the conflict.

I picked up By Schism Rent Asunder recently and finished it today. As a long-time fan of David Weber, I've read most of what he's written over the years. Strangely enough, I didn't realize this was the second book in the Armageddon Reef series and never read the first book. To this book's credit, it does provide enough information in the books early pages to be read without reading the first book.

Weber's story takes a lot of influence from European history, and indeed, his writing shows that he has a lot of depth of knowledge in that subject both with period technology and politics, while throwing a in a dash of sci-fi as well. As always, his political plots are complex and somewhat thoughtful, and his characters black and white in philosophy.

The Safehold series is not particularly original. Other authors have done the theme of a futuristic wizard bringing the dark-ages into technological advancement, including fellow Baen author David Drake in the Bellisarius series. I read another novel like this back in the early 90's. Weber himself did this theme in his Heirs of Empire novel some years back. He even had a monolithic corrupted church as part of the story. Apparently Weber liked the idea so much he decided to expand it. This new series even has a genocidal race of aliens, much like the Heirs of Empire series.

I've made the observation that as he has become more popular and the editors have lifted their length restrictions, Weber's books have become longer, more plodding and filled with political discourse between characters.

Weber has a great ability to make interesting settings for his stories, but as he's progressed in his writing, I've found it more and more boring. It's not that his later books don't have action, or that I crave action, it's just that the expositionary politics ends up dragging down the story pace and overshadowing character development, sometimes almost unbearably. His earlier books, such as the Honor Harrington debut novels and the like were better edited story-wise and have far better pacing.

By Schism Rent Asunder is not a bad book, and it certainly has better story composition than some of the later Honor Harrington novels, but it has very little action and a glacial pace (the book's time frame is about 4 months, hardly any time at all considering the overarching story). I still liked it, but if one's reason for reading this book is because they like the action of Weber's novels, this one is going to surely disappoint. It's almost purely political and probably intended as a major bit of exposition between Off "Armageddon Reef" and his next book.

Still, despite the fact that reading this novel made me feel like I was reading a revised version of Heirs of Empire, I rather liked it. I look forward to see where the series goes. It's probably going to fill a lot of books at this rate. For fans of Honor, this could be bad news... It looks like a new subject has Weber's attention now.
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23 of 28 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Middle book in a long series, July 23, 2008
I really enjoyed the first book in the series "Off Armageddon Reef". This book has less action and more political detail. Some of Merlin's secrets are revealed to others and several unexpected alliances are formed. By the end of the book we still have a long way to go to reach the expected conclusion. Based on the pace of the first two books this could easily become a six or ten book series. All in all Weber creates a consistent believable world. Schism Rent Asunder makes me yearn for the next book in the series.
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3.0 out of 5 stars windy, August 20, 2008
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I have been a fan of Weber for a long time, but it is getting difficult to hang in there. This book is OK, but does not expand the story all that much. Also, it is hard to get into the characters, let alone remember their names. He must like "y's" My biggest gripe is "the story" Between the political discussions ad nauseum, and the military discussions, ditto, the story gets lost in the shuffle. Honor Harrington set everything out by example and told a hell of a story. Once Weber started explaining every little thing, things deteriorated and he needed an editor with a very large blue pencil which noone ever provided. Too bad. However, if you skip the rambling, there is a story there somewhere and it is readable, when you don't care to take your time. It sure doesn't grab you though, which some of the previous books did.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Weber works wonders, again
This is the second book on the story of Merlin, King Cayleb and the adventures on Safehold. Weber continues to surprise the reader with his depth of the characters. Read more
Published 25 days ago by D. Kincaid

2.0 out of 5 stars Disappointing second book
The first book in this series was a good read. It had an interesting premise and plenty of action. In this second book Weber seems not sure what to do with the second book in a... Read more
Published 2 months ago by chuanha1

5.0 out of 5 stars Best books since early Honor Harrington.
Mankind is hiding from aliens who have eliminated all but this last secret colony of humanity. Re-writing history and even colonist memories, the leadership has set up a religion... Read more
Published 3 months ago by J. Palmer

3.0 out of 5 stars A breezy quick read, as long as you skip the Melville portions...
I was at the library and saw all the Weber books. Thinking of trying a new author, I saw the Honor series. Read more
Published 3 months ago by David A. Teich

4.0 out of 5 stars Not bad but not as good as the first.
Quality was just as good as the first however the story line had me wanting to do something else a few times. Read more
Published 4 months ago by R. Belden

5.0 out of 5 stars A former Professional Soldier's point of view...
With all due respects to my fellow reviewers, I have to say that this is one of the best military/political science fiction books that I've read in many, many moons! Read more
Published 5 months ago by Jim Kirk

4.0 out of 5 stars By Schism Rent...
I just finished reading this one, and I do agree with those above. It plodded in too many places and is similar to the Harrington series, in that I began to lose interest in the... Read more
Published 5 months ago by Thom Tordel

2.0 out of 5 stars Very Disappointed.
I'm a fan of David Weber's books, especially his Honor Harrington series. This, however, just didn't do it for me. Read more
Published 5 months ago by Karla D. Kusmer

2.0 out of 5 stars Sunder lacks Thunder
By Schism Rent Asunder was a keenly anticipated part two in the series. Part 1 had started at a cracking pace and with sufficient background detail, breadth of vision and a... Read more
Published 5 months ago by Justin R. Swain

4.0 out of 5 stars New to Weber - like his style
This was an interesting read. i picked up the first in the series at a book fair and was glad to get the second thru Amazon. Read more
Published 6 months ago by M. Nims

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