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9 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Dissappointing - Creationist position not represented well,
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This review is from: Science & Christianity: Four Views (Spectrum Multiview Book Series Spectrum Multiview Book Serie) (Paperback)
Science & Christianity: Four Views is a well-conceived attempt to cover the spectrum of Christian thought concerning the proper interaction of theology and science as realms of knowledge. These interacting viewpoint books are a great idea but they are difficult to pull-off because at least one viewpoint usually suffers. In this book, Creationism in particular is not well represented. Since this view is a historical cornerstone in the discussion, the overall book suffers as a result.Frair and Patterson represent the Creationist viewpoint (young and old-earth views are essentially combined in this book). Their opening position statement, as expected, emphasizes the priority of an inerrant Scripture as the authority in human knowledge though they also encourage vigorous scientific inquiry and believe the two ultimately converge into one reality. But, their interactions with other viewpoints throughout the book tend to miss the point by avoiding any contrast/conflict. This avoidance hurts the value of the book and depth of their presentation. Pond represents what is called the Independence view, which is often ignored in these discussions. Independence asserts that theology and science are two completely different areas of knowledge with no appreciable overlap in describing reality. If there is a question about the actual physical history of earth, it is resolved solely by science. Likewise, if there is a question of human spirituality it is resolved solely in the area of religion (Christianity for Pond). Pond says she considers scripture one more facet of information, which is to be considered along with church tradition (Episcopal in her case), and human reason depending upon the subject at hand. In the case of physical earth history, she sees no role for the Bible. She does not accept the notion that the scripture is inerrant and asks for a definition of the term (FYI Feinberg provides a great one in "Inerrancy" edited by Geisler). In place of inerrancy Ponds promotes the NOMA principle popularized by Stephen Jay Gould. Pond is eloquent for her position and interacts with other viewpoints in a consistent manner that provides some color to what is generally a bland book. Aside from the color she adds to the discussion, I find her view of scripture and science (along with NOMA) to be an elaborate cop-out that gives total precedence to science at every point in the discussion carrying any significance for discovering physical reality. Pond (and NOMA) seem to overlook the turbulent nature of scientific theories throughout history while discounting the possibility that the Bible has a divine author capable of giving a general but accurate description of physical reality that science is yet to fully discover. The Qualified Agreement viewpoint is covered by Meyer and basically says that we should accept a highly interactive view of both scripture and science on a case-by-case basis where there are no hard and fast rules as to which will take precedence beforehand. After tracing the history of earlier intelligent design efforts by Paley and others, Meyer provides an onslaught of physical evidence from various fields of science. This chapter has so many well-known examples of design that the overall method (inference to the best explanation) does not receive the attention it deserves. Meyer is consistent throughout the book making most of his arguments from contemporary scientific evidence suggesting design, rather than from scripture. Meyer footnotes his evidence well and provides a veritable who's who of intelligent design authors such as Dembski, Behe, Ross and Denton. Van Till provides the Partnership view, which says that science and Christian theology can go hand in hand without conflict. This view emphasizes a possible harmony between the two fields of knowledge and seeks to explain it with what Van Till calls the Robust Formation Economy (RFE). He prefers RFE to theistic evolution, which is more often used as a category for his viewpoint. The RFE basically says God created the universe as an amazing evolutionary machine that is capable of unfolding in the way modern evolutionary sciences say it does with no further intervention from God. Van Till feels this view ascribes more glory to God than the interventionist views held by Creationists or Qualified Agreement camps (Independence would seem to agree more with Van Till though it has no identifiable position as to interaction). Van Till's position is open to the critique (attempted but not adequately made in this book) that he is just playing games with words. Renaming deism to RFE doesn't really help things very much. His position counters scripture in a number of areas that indicate God is actively involved in the daily workings of nature, not just the macro architect from billions of years ago. Partnership ends up being a cop-out theory like Independence, it's just dressed up with fancier words and ideas, but not strong arguments based upon theological and scientific data. This is a mediocre book that had the potential to be excellent but did not achieve that goal. There actually aren't that many intermediate books available in the area of philosophy of science and Christianity, but this is one. If you just want one book in this area choose Three Views on Creation and Evolution by Moreland and Reynolds; it is somewhat better than this book.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Are Science and Religion Separate or Interacting Spheres?,
By Discovery Reviewer (Seattle, WA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Science & Christianity: Four Views (Spectrum Multiview Book Series Spectrum Multiview Book Serie) (Paperback)
Christians have long debated the relationship of science and faith. With the rise of Darwinism, however, the issue took on new significance. Darwinism appeared to undermine the authority of the Bible and the credibility of Christianity by freeing science of the need for a Creator. Rethinking the relationship between science and Christianity quickly became a priority. How does a faithful Christian respond to the pronouncements of contemporary science?At the beginning of the 21st century, Christians continue to wonder whether faith and science are partners or opponents. In this book six scholars help us sort through the issues as they present four views on the relationship of science and Christianity. These views include creationism, independence, qualified agreement, and partnership. Firstly, Wayne Frair and Gary D. Patterson argue that creationism bolsters faith in the Bible, while basing its claims upon actual scientific evidence. For them, science is the formal study of the observable world while theology is the study of God and his relationship to his created world. They argue that the Bible is to be interpreted as the inerrant word of God, while holding that the actual literal meaning of Genesis could still fit with an ancient age of the universe. Science is seen as supporting what is known by faith. Next, Jean Pond argues for the "independence" viewpoint, like Stephen Jay Gould who argued, "Science and religion are not in conflict, for their teaching occupy distinctly different domains." (pg. 71) Senior Discovery Institute fellow Stephen C. Meyer responds to this view by observing that in reality, science and religion often tread upon the same ground, for "Christianity in particular does not simply address questions of morality and meaning as Gould's NOMA principle asserts, but it also makes factual claims about history, human nature and, it would seem, the origin of the natural world." (pg. 112) Meyer then articulates his view of science and religion, called "qualified agreement." In particular, materialistic theories of origins betray a theistic understanding of the universe. As Bertrand Russell described materialistic science, "Man is the product of causes which had no provision of the end they were achieving" and that predestined him "to extinction in the vast death of the solar system." (pg. 127-128) Meyer argues that history demonstrates that many proponents of materialistic science have viewed science as antithetical to faith. According to Meyer, new scientific developments including Big Bang cosmology, fine-tuning arguments, and information in DNA support design in the universe and theistic perspectives of reality. Finally, Howard J. Van Till argues for acceptance of evolutionary science. Van Till puts particular emphasis upon what he calls "transparently shoddy scholarship" against evolution coming from the Christian community which is an "embarrassment." (pg. 196). Van Till views opposition to evolution as either based upon (1) peer-pressure, (2) childhood impressions, (3) or careful examination of the data, which he calls a position "that appears to be rare." (pg. 200). For Van Till, the key question is, "Is the formational economy of the creation sufficiently robust (that is, gifted withal the requisite capabilities) to make possible the actualization of all the different physical / material structures and all forms of life that have existed since the beginning of time?" According to Van Till, the answer is an assumption because "For the sake of scientific theorizing we assume that the formational economy of the universe is sufficiently robust to account for the actualization in time of all the types of physical / material structures and all the forms of life that have ever existed." Van Till urges Christians to accept that assumption as true. Stephen Meyer responds to Van Till by noting that assumptions should not cloud the minds of scientists, for design theorists "think that scientists should follow the evidence wherever it leads." Meyer contends that "questions about whether natural self-organizational capacities or acts of intelligent design better explain the natural world ought to be decided by empirical investigation rather than a priori principles," such as those proposed by Van Till. Meyer concludes that the empirical data does not support Van Till's hypothesis that life can arise via natural processes, in particular because there are no "self-organizing" forces which can explain the sequence-specific ordering of the chemical bases in DNA. Thus Meyer argues that Van Till's assumptions can be empirically tested, and they have been found to be false. This debate will likely continue long into the future. However the respectful and fruitful dialogues found in this book will help Christians better identify the best approach to understanding the relationship between science and faith.
1 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
A very helpful dialogue...whatever your view.,
This review is from: Science & Christianity: Four Views (Spectrum Multiview Book Series Spectrum Multiview Book Serie) (Paperback)
While we stand firmly in the "creationist" camp, all of the contributors are worth reading here -- and Editor Richard Carlson provides invaluable help as "moderator." If you are dealing with these issues -- get this new book! Recommended. -- The Discerning Reader
8 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
Absence of true Creationist position made this dialog bland,
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This review is from: Science & Christianity: Four Views (Spectrum Multiview Book Series Spectrum Multiview Book Serie) (Paperback)
There are four positions here, and I will address them in the order that they are presented in the book:1. The Creationism position (for some reason the only position that is an "ism") was blandly proclaimed in a lengthy and mostly uninspired essay by Wayne Friar and Gary D. Patterson. Although I had never heard of them, I suspect they are part of some mutual admiration society overusing phrases in their supposedly critical response essays like "we commend", "we join", "we agree that" and "we share." They sacrificed the sharp sword of intellectual debate for the blunt instrument of patronizing accolades. All of the contributors to this volume, including the editor, for the most part ignore important points in the first few chapters of Genesis. 1) God speaking the creation into existence; 2) the Fall and it's ramifications (the various curses and introduction of death); 3) the supposedly historically accurate reports of great life spans prior to the Flood; 4) the Judgment of Yahweh on sin in the Flood (and by extension the Apostle Peter's reminder of a future judgment by fire); and 5) the divine origin of human languages. One item worth noting is the simple, yet interesting, chart on the classification of the sciences by Arthur Peacocke (Theology for a Scientific Age) as modified by Nancey Murphy (Reconciling Theology and Science) -- perhaps their books will shed more light on the topic of Science and Christianity than this work compiled by Richard F. Carlson.
1 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Great views!!,
By Casey L. Pettitt (Denton, TX USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Science & Christianity: Four Views (Spectrum Multiview Book Series Spectrum Multiview Book Serie) (Paperback)
This book is exciting as well as informative. Steve Meyer's essay is extraordinary! Great info! I can't wait to read it again!!
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