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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars I'm Grateful For This Book
I have seen virtually everything out there and for me this is simply the best of the bunch. Linda Aronson has put so much that is practical into this book, that I am actually grateful to her. More than that, I am a bit in awe of her intelligence and generosity. I have never seen so much excellent advice in one book about the creative process of writing, the interplay of...
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3.0 out of 5 stars Valuable for its info on Non-Linear story structure.
I have found it nearly impossible to find any story structure books that deal with the rules and structure of Non-Linear storytelling, which I find rather odd. Non-linear storytelling is everywhere these days. It's definitely an under-served book market. That being said, this book contains some valuable information on the different types of non-linear story structure, and...
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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars I'm Grateful For This Book, July 26, 2003
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This review is from: Screenwriting Updated: New (and Conventional) Ways of Writing for the Screen (Paperback)
I have seen virtually everything out there and for me this is simply the best of the bunch. Linda Aronson has put so much that is practical into this book, that I am actually grateful to her. More than that, I am a bit in awe of her intelligence and generosity. I have never seen so much excellent advice in one book about the creative process of writing, the interplay of what she calls vertical and lateral thinking. I simply don't have the time to really explain all that is incredible about this book-I'm using it right now to write a radio drama and I have to get back to work. (obviously,the book's advice applies). Check it out-it may speak to you. For me, Linda Aronson is a supremely gifted teacher. Ah, the joys of clarity.
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A complete "how to" course in a single volume, December 13, 2001
This review is from: Screenwriting Updated: New (and Conventional) Ways of Writing for the Screen (Paperback)
Award winning screenwriter, playwright, and novelist Linda Aronson draws upon her many years of professional experience and expertise to present Screenwriting Updated: New (And Conventional) Ways Of Writing For The Screen, a singularly useful and "user friendly" compendium of advice, examples, tips, tricks, and techniques on writing scripts for television and film. Sections cover such topics as Getting Ideas, Narrative Structure, and dialogue writing. Sample scenes abound, clearly illustrating various writing principles and rendering the concepts in concrete, unmistakable clarity. A complete "how to" course in a single volume, Screenwriting Updated is very highly recommended for both aspiring and active screenwriters.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Clear and logical, September 12, 2006
This review is from: Screenwriting Updated: New (and Conventional) Ways of Writing for the Screen (Paperback)
The best book on screenwriting I've seen. It provides a clear and intuitive way of looking at narrative structure where others make structure appear merely arbitrary. In addition it is one of the only books (if not the only book) that deals practically with writing non-linear narrative structures seen in such films as Shine, Memento, and Pulp Fiction.
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5.0 out of 5 stars An Advanced Screenwriters textbook, March 26, 2009
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Phil Lee (Minneapolis, Minn, Silicon Tundra, USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Screenwriting Updated: New (and Conventional) Ways of Writing for the Screen (Paperback)
Ms Aronson, who is based in Australia, has written an advanced book for professional Screenwriters. This book, while a "How-to" in nature, is not for a novice. At least an intro-level "Dummies" or "Idiots" screenwriting book needs to be digested first.

Recall that "writing a novel" and "adapting a novel to a screenplay" is a very different and daunting task. Thus competence in a high school or college level English Literature course will prepare a writer for poetry, short stories and novels and understanding Shakespeare's plays. English Lit does not prepare one for writing a screenplay.

IMHO a woman's perspective in a male-dominated profession has broadened how women's characters and dialog are developed. She analyzes several films which have strong actress characters.

The area that her book is weak is on how the Screenwriter fits as part of the movie or TV production team. She gives about 5 pgs to embellish, or give the "treatment," for the production script.

Aronson's book has lots of diagrams, figures, tables and lists. The book's 6-pg TOC does not have a list of figures. The back has a 1-pg Filmography, a 4-pg Bibliography, and a 6-pg Index.

This book can be used as a college-level text. Many Figures contain pedagogical questions, many chapters end with an informal list of questions, and there are many film case studies, useful for the student that has easy access to movie DVDs for viewing and movie script books (or downloads from imsdbDOTcom) for analysis. See lindaaronsonDOTnet.

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Summary of the first-half of the book, important principles are keyed with asterisks.

Development Strategies:

Ch1p2,6,9 *1* Vertical thinking (analytical, task, left-brain);
Ch1p3,7,9 *2* Lateral thinking (personal & emotive, right-brain);
Ch2p19 *3* Pinpointing genre and models;
Ch4p32,35 *4* Get more ideas by creating links to different things;

Ch6p53 *5* Make sure disturbance involves real change;
Ch6p54 *6* Distinguish an idea from a story;
Ch6p55 *7* Create a simple story sentence;
Ch6p58 *8* Differentiating action and relationship lines;
Ch6p60 *9* Define the steps of the relationship;
Ch6p65 *10* Identify protagonist;
Ch6p70 *11* Identify antagonist;
Ch6p74 *12* Getting into character;
Ch6p75 *13* Finding first-act turning point (surprise/obstacle);
Ch6p77 *14* Devise 2nd-act complications;
Ch6p78 *15* Find 2nd-act turning point;
Ch6p79 *16* Find climax;
Ch6p80 *17* Estab 1st-act turning point thru final climax;
Ch6p81 *18* Coming to a resolution and ending;

Ch6p82 *19* Checklist before starting to write 1st draft;

Ch6p83 *20* Create advanced story sentence;
Ch6p84 *21* Check that relationship line is moving;
Ch6p86 *21* Getting right scenario for each scene;
Ch6p87 *23* Creating opening scenes;
Ch6p88 *24* Using symbolism and myth;
Ch6p90 *25* Planning a screen adaptation;
Ch6p92 *26* Writing comedy satire;
Ch6p94 *27* Writing short film;
Ch6p96 *28* Wring journey film;
Ch6p97 *29* Staying objective at 2nd Draft;

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p1-35 Part I Getting ideas
p40-251 Part II Narrative Structure
p255-287 Part III Getting it onto Paper

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PartII Narrative Structure

p39-50 Chap5 Overview of traditional narrative structure

p40 Parallel storytelling is driven by the three-act structure

p44 Before writing, create a structure chart Fig5.4 which has major content & Questions in each of 3 acts.

p46 Create a Nine-Point plan Fig5.5 Act1: 1) Normality, 2) Disturbance, 3) Protagonist, 4) Plan, 5) Surprise, 6) Obstacle, Act2&3: 7) Complications, substories, more surprises, and obstacles, Act3: 8) Climax, 9) Resolution.

p48 Eg Cinderella Fig5.7

p50 Index cards -- one for each step of plot. 90min feature will require 60 plot points, a "moment of high drama" or "turning point." Useful to spot plot weaknesses. Eg not enough plots, plots are intertwined and balanced or too clumpy.


p51-104 Chap6 Development Strategies for a traditional three-act film. Describes Development Strategies #5-#29.

p74 The 1st-act turning point is what the film is about.

p77 The 2nd-act turning point is the lowest point, emotionally and often physically, for the protagonist. It is the closest they come to death and despair. It is designed to pump up the suspense and the audience's anxiety.

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Short Film

p91-93 Specific plotting problems: Must grab the audience and leave it with an overwhelmingly powerful impression. Don't overwrite, don't have too much dialogue; don't have arguing characters other than productive conflict. Have scenes end on a question. Don't make script do too much backstory.

Stick with the protagonist and antagonist.

p93 2nd-draft requires objective exam of every line of dialog, every event, and every char to see how much it is contributing towards the main idea. Be happy with your logline.

p94 Use professional-level script writing techniques

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p98 Using Criticism to Best Advantage. Make sure you understand the stuff being criticized and then make sure that reader's diagnosis is correct. Make use of DS#2 lateral thinking to evoke more personal and emotive responses. Use the right-brain; female passive / aggressive behavior (See Stepford Wives (75)).

p100-104 Case Study: Structural Analysis "The Piano (92)," Jane Campion, Dir

p105-15Chap7 Alternative narrative structures: flashback. Diagram of "The Usual Suspects" and "Shine"
p117-27Chap8 Varieties of flashback narrative
p129-42Chap9 Quick Ref Guide Using Flashback narrative. Case study: Cinderella
p143-83Chap10 Structure charts Flashback narrative. Case studies: "Shine," "The Remains of the Day," "The Usual Suspects," "Citizen Kane," and "The Sweet Hereafter."

p185-220 Chap11 Tandem narrative and Sequential narrative. Structure charts on "Crimes and Misdemeanors," and "Pulp Fiction."

p221-35 Chap12 Multiple protagonists and antagonists. Case study: Siege structure of "American Beauty."

p235-251 Chap13 Lost in the Telling: films with Structural flaws. Analyzes 8 films, including "Jaws 3."

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PartIII Getting it onto paper

p255-63 Chap14 Dialogue. Talking heads and poor exposition. p261 List of camera angles.

p265-77 Chap15 Examples of Flawed Dialogue writing. Analyzes two scripts with 2 and 3 versions of revisions.
p259-84 Chap16 Treatment writing and the Script as Instruction manual.
p285-87 Chap17 Writing under Pressure
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3.0 out of 5 stars Valuable for its info on Non-Linear story structure., January 12, 2012
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I have found it nearly impossible to find any story structure books that deal with the rules and structure of Non-Linear storytelling, which I find rather odd. Non-linear storytelling is everywhere these days. It's definitely an under-served book market. That being said, this book contains some valuable information on the different types of non-linear story structure, and the rules by which they work or fail. It's certainly not comprehensive, and I found the rest of the book uninteresting, but it currently is the only source of this information that I am aware of. So, until something more comprehensive comes along, this is the book to go to for this information.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Intelligent, detailed, and useful (but it still can't break out of the Hollywood ghetto), December 20, 2011
This review is from: Screenwriting Updated: New (and Conventional) Ways of Writing for the Screen (Paperback)
This book is really like four books in one. Firstly, it's an overview of traditional three-act structure screenplay writing. Secondly, it's a sort of 'creativity manual' on how to effectively use literal and lateral thinking in combination to come up with ideas that are "real but unusual." Thirdly, it's what it says in the title: a how-to on writing unconventional screenplay structures (with a focus on flashback, and to a somewhat lesser extent, parallel narratives and ensemble films). Lastly, it's a guide on how to identify structural problems within a screenplay, including in depth analyses of several films with such problems.

The first two aspects for the most part weave into each other. After identifying what literal and lateral thinking are, the problems caused by using the wrong skill for the wrong task, and how to use them effectively, she then applies this method to each step of writing a traditional three-act screenplay. This is an interesting, and I think fruitful approach. It'd be especially useful for those new to screenwriting, I imagine. Still, I felt this section was unnecessary. I'd much preferred if the book had ditched the parenthetical and stuck to the 'new,' 'updated,' and UNconventional side of things instead. There are oodles and oodles of books on three-act structure out there, and while Aronson's serious, intelligent, and relatively original take on the subject is miles above the sea of utter garbage that constitutes the screenwriting instruction industry, it still would have worked better as its own book.

The real heart of the book is the other stuff. The focus is almost entirely on narrative structure, so if you're looking for advice on experimenting with genre or character or whatever else, you might try looking elsewhere (though obviously you can't discuss structure without also discussing character, and issues of genre, tone, etc do get brief mention). But if you're attempting to write a film with flashbacks, multiple narratives, or an ensemble cast, this book will probably be a lifesaver to you. Aronson meticulously breaks down the structures of several films (successful, partially successful, and failures) and shows what makes them tick or not tick. I have to emphasize the word 'meticulous.' Some may complain that this book is overly complex or technical, but if you're interested in writing a film with a complex and unusual narrative structure, you're going to wind up with complex and unusual roadblocks and flaws. By giving detailed notes on a broad variety of possible structures, the problems that can potentially arise from each, and multiple ways of solving or compensating for each problem, Aronson's book is the only one I know of that can help point the way toward crafting an unconventional structure that WORKS.

Still, I wish it went further. Early in the first section, Aronson writes, "Some books on screenwriting actually specify the page number in the script where structural high points should happen. Many writers find this worryingly rigid. But if you think of it not as a matter of pages but of screen time, it makes sense, because what is actually being said is that a script needs a twist or turn every fifteen minutes, otherwise the audience will get bored - which is really just common sense." She writes this as a way of backing up traditional approaches to structure, but what she actually winds up saying is somewhat more profound. The 'rules' of screenwriting are actually incredibly simple: keep your audience interested; surprise them often but make the surprises convincing; make the surprises get bigger and save the biggest one for the end; someone or something needs to change over time; have a theme... and so on. (For a liberating and elegantly simple description of story form, I recommend Ursula K Le Guin: google "a discussion of story") Three act structure has become the standard simply because it's been proven, when done well, to 'work.' But by no means is it the only way to tell an engrossing story. Aronson knows this fact, but she steers clear of its most radical implications.

Pulp Fiction perhaps forms the central 'problem' which the book attempts to 'solve.' It breaks so many of the conventional rules of screenwriting, and has a structure so erratic, strange, and long, that by any estimation, it shouldn't work. Yet it does. Why? Aronson does a pretty good job attempting to answer that question, and her analysis certainly provides some insights for writers looking to use some of the same devices as Tarantino (especially if using those devices in combination). But it doesn't go deeper. Despite the dizzying array of potential structural models she covers, these still wind up as templates which the reader/writer is expected to be able to plug their story into. We are given innovative patterns to learn from, but aren't given the more fundamental tools needed to innovate our own effective patterns beyond those covered.

That's a tall task, I know, and maybe its not fair to expect that much. But even looking at the patterns that are provided, they're for the most part rather limited. Almost all the films discussed, positively or negatively, are Hollywood productions. It's interesting to me that so much of the book seems to be a response to a recent Hollywood interest in unconventional structures that was no doubt kicked off by the successes of Quentin Tarantino, when Tarantino himself learned so much of what makes his films interesting from European art film. Why not look to his inspiration? Or to any of the thousands of highly innovative narrative structures attempted in non-American cinema throughout the decades, successful or not? I want to know why the highly fragmentary films of Jean Luc Godard such as Tout va bien and 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her can nonetheless feel like unified works. I want to know how Alain Resnais' Muriel can be not merely non-linear, but completely temporally disorienting, and yet still have satisfying character development. I want to know how Michelangelo Antonioni makes buildings and landscapes as important as his human characters, or why the glacial pacing of an Andrei Tarkovsky film can feel sublime rather than boring, or how the docufictions of Jean Rouche or Abbas Kiarostrami's Close-up weave scripted fiction with unscripted fact. I want to know where these films falter and why. And of course, most importantly, I want to know how to apply all of these insights to my own work.

I'm still waiting for a book that can do that, but in the meantime, this one is nice to have around.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Screenwriting Updated, May 2, 2010
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Allan MacFarlane (Gold Coast QLD, Australia) - See all my reviews
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Linda Aronson has provided me with the missing pieces in my jigsaw puzzle of writing for the screen. You are going to need to find methods and systems in writing to suit your needs and this book should be one of them. I have been informed by the author that there is a new improved book on the subject coming soon.
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1.0 out of 5 stars I found this book overly complex and frustrating, August 29, 2008
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I've read several screenwriting books recently and I must say, this is easily the most overly complex approach to writing I've ever seen. For instance, Ms. Aronson takes the simple idea of needing to balance logic with imagination and turns it into an insanely long winded lecture where logic and imagination are re-branded as vertical and lateral thinking. What should be a simple concept to grasp turns into what feels like a droning and seemingly endless mathematical lecture. Unless you don't get headaches easily, I'd suggest spending your money on much more useful and inspiring books, such as Robert McKee's "Story," Linda Seger's "Making a Good Script Great" and Kenneth Atchity & Chi-Li Wong's "Writing Treatments that Sell."
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