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Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire

Bonnie TylerAudio CD
4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (15 customer reviews)

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Product Details

  • Audio CD (January 1, 2002)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Columbia Records/Sony
  • ASIN: B000008UAY
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (15 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #226,703 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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11 of 11 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars This should�ve done a total eclipse on the charts! December 5, 2002
Format:Audio CD
Secret Dreams And Forbidden Fire is Bonnie's second Jim Steinman-produced album. Looks like the Meat Loaf got a little too rancid. Anyway, like Meat Loaf's Bat Out Of Hell, operatic choruses abound on this album more than Steinman's first Bonnie Tyler album, Faster Than The Speed Of Night, which while having its moments, was kind of uneven in consistency. Secret Dreams is more polished than its predecessor even though none of its songs blazed up the charts like "Total Eclipse." In fact Jim Steinman penned four of the songs here, including the first two singles.
However, the honour of penning the Bon-Jovi-like "If You Were A Woman (And I Was A Man) belongs to ace songwriter Desmond Child, who also cowrote Bon Jovi's "You Give Love A Bad Name". Compare the stylings of the music,as applied to these lyrics: "If you were a woman, and I was a man, would it be so hard to understand. That a heart's a heart and we do what we can" with "Shot through the heart, and you're to blame/You give love a bad name." Identical tempos and rhythms. This was the single following "Holding Out For A Hero" and it's one of the best songs here.
"No Way To Treat A Lady" is the second Bryan Adams-Jim Vallance song done by Bonnie, although if I recall correctly, this wasn't done by the Adams-Vallance team previously. The rhythms in the chorus make it a close cousin of Aretha Franklin's "Who's Zooming Who."
The centerpiece and crown jewel of this album is nearly eight minute opus "Loving You Is A Dirty Job But Somebody's Gotta Do It", which is a combination of "Total Eclipse Of The Heart" and "Faster Than The Speed Of Night," meaning that it's the big emotional hit of the album plus the racing intense operatic Meat Loaf style song.
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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Bonnie Tyler and Jim Steinman's best album June 1, 1999
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Format:Audio CD
This album was the follow-up to "Faster than the Speed of Night," the album that featured 'Total Eclipse of the Heart.' It contains no hits except for 'Holding out for a Hero' which is also available on the "Footloose" soundtrack, and it peaked at 106 on Billboard's Top 200, but it contains Jim Steinman's best writing and Bonnie Tyler's best recordings. Absolutely anyone who enjoyed "Bat Out of Hell" or "Bat Out of Hell II" should purchase this album. 'Ravishing' has all the great kick-off, epic rock power of the title track to "Bat Out of Hell." "Loving You's A Dirty Job, But Somebody's Gotta Do It" with Todd Rundgren is the earlier, female dominated version of "I'd Do Anything For Love, But I Won't Do That." "Holding Out For a Hero" is of course the song about pining away for the knight on a white charger, but "Rebel Without a Clue" is positively the best song here. Clocking in at 8:35, it is the titanic power-ballad about a prostitute turned vampire and her eternal lover. The two Desmond Child tracks are also fantastically perfomed and produced. "No Way to Treat a Lady," written by Bryan Adams, is a rather up beat point amid all this gloom and despair while "Band of Gold" remains sad but actually rocks. "Before This Night is Through" does not appear to be on this disc anymore. Columbia Records had put this album out of print for a few years, and now this track seems to have been deleted. A pity, but luckily the Steinman is still here. For four years, I've owned this album, and it is still my favorite. For every lover of epic rock or the power ballad, it is a must own.
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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars It's 'Secret' cause no one knows it's out there! June 24, 1999
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Format:Audio CD
This is the little-known second cousin spawned by Jim Steinman's second project, the woman named Bonnie Tyler (His first being the thing named Meat Loaf). For those who remember 'Total Eclipse of the Heart', yes, that's her, and yes, that's Him writing the music and lyrics. Faster Than the Speed of Night contained two absolutley stellar Steinman tunes among a bunch of average to good tunes. Secret Dreams is a much more focused, solid effort. Steinman contributes four tracks this time, all are good, two are great (Rebel Without a Clue and Loving You's a Dirty Job). One of his songs, Holding out for a Hero, became a hockey-rink staple across the nation. But unlike the non-Steinman material on Faster the remainder of Secret Dreams is very good, catchy material as well. It's obviously not as good as Steinman's songs (and what is?) but 'If You were a Woman' was a huge UK hit and songs like 'Before this night is Through', 'Band of Gold' (a rocking cover of one-hit wonder Freida Payne's version) and the tear-jerker 'Lovers Again' round this effort out to an album that should have been far more successful than it's predeccessor.
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4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars powerfull album December 8, 2001
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when i heard Loving you is a dirty job.. and no way to treat a lady on a cheapo compilation i would wanted to find the original album these songs were on and after a while a found "secret dreams" and it was and is is a powerfull great album with excellent songs on it this second "Steinman" Produced album is just as good as the first one maybe even better "ravishing is a strange but fascinating opener "No way to treat a lady" a fine Bryan adams tune as with "straight from the heart" From That other album the song never bores "Rebel without a clue an epic Rocksong from 8 minutes and of course the powerfull and tearfull duet with todd rundgrenn "loving you is a dirty Job" together with "total eclipse" and "making love out" it's the best bonnie song of all time it's about a relationship that doesn't work Bonnie here sounds Desperate, Angry and sad she is one of those few singers that really give emotion to a song this is a perfect rock album you be listen to for a very long time.And as for Bonnie Herself: it's a pity and totall shame Radiostations Recordcompanies and CD stores are just ignoring one of the most remarkble and Passionate female singer off all time
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5.0 out of 5 stars Five Stars
Published 2 months ago by Brandy Peyton
5.0 out of 5 stars Hard to find and apparently little remembered, but a great album
How does great music disappear from our consciousness? How does a fantastic musical work become difficult to find, out of print, or just plain forgotten? It's a mystery to me. Read more
Published 3 months ago by Dean T. Sinclair
4.0 out of 5 stars tape was for the gf
I can't really rate this item as I'm not the one who wanted it nor listened to it. So I guess it's a good tape.
Published 7 months ago by Jrockz
5.0 out of 5 stars Her best album. Period.
I got this old cassette here at Amazon. Why the CD is missing one track, I have no idea. My old LP is missing two tracks, but I can guess why: running time limitations. Read more
Published 7 months ago by Marcos Feitosa
3.0 out of 5 stars HOLDING OUT FOR A HEARING AID (LOL)
In the early eighties, after launching Meat Loaf into the musical stratosphere, Jim Steinmann turned his attention to the cute Scottish lass, Bonnie Tyler. Read more
Published 22 months ago by Michael Butts
5.0 out of 5 stars What else is there to say--she's amazing.
It has been gut-wrenching for me to write this review.One of my all-time favorite songs is "It's A Heartache" which was the first time I ever heard Bonnie sing. Read more
Published on July 24, 2011 by J. Guild
5.0 out of 5 stars GREAT CD
Bonnie tyler at her BEST & the writer Jim Steinman Words that hit the Heart
Published on November 19, 2008 by Daniel Lawrance
3.0 out of 5 stars Blast from the past
Pretty enjoyable, she has the raspy rock voice, but it has that 80's aura, which to me was not my favorite musical era. Bought it for the Todd Rundgren duet, which is interesting. Read more
Published on September 14, 2008 by
5.0 out of 5 stars Great!!
This was the last one i needed to fill up my jim steinman collection , and it was worth the money..The jim steinman songs are great ..(as always)..... Read more
Published on February 25, 2002 by jimmy whitefield
5.0 out of 5 stars Exellent cd,some songs drag on for to long
I love this cd,its by far better than Faster Than the Speed of Night.But i think Bonnie's best cd is Notes From America.Most of these song seem to go on forever. Read more
Published on August 14, 2001
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