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When a 35 year-old record sounds like it could have been made yesterday, it tells you two things. First, the music it contains is by definition timeless. And, two, it s a pretty good bet that when it first came out, that record was ahead of its time. Such is the case with the first album from the Roche family. Maggie and Terre Roche were fresh from singing backup on Paul Simon's 1973 album There Goes Rhymin' Simon when they went into the studio to record Seductive Reasoning with the same Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section and production team (the Yardbirds' Paul Samwell-Smith and, on one track, Simon himself) that had made Rhymin' Simon. Yet, for all its star power, the real focus of the album was Maggie Roche s impressionistic, intensely personal songwriting and the beautiful, stunning harmonies struck by the two sisters. Which has a lot to do with why this 1975 release never made a commercial splash. If radio was simply not ready for Seductive Reasoning s brash blend of folk, country and pop styles the same blend that today characterizes so many "alternative" acts--it certainly was not ready for a female songwriter who avoided hippie platitudes and bucolic yearnings in favor of stream-of-consciousness urban streetscapes and post-feminist attitudes towards love and sex, all leavened by a sweet vulnerability. Indeed, Seductive Reasoning lives up to its title it hits you both in the heart and in the head.

This new Real Gone reissue marks the first time in over a decade the album has been available on CD, and features the original front cover album artwork along with track-by-track commentary by Maggie Roche and pictures from her archive.

1. Underneath the Moon
2. Down the Dream
3. Wigglin' Man
4. West Virginia
5. If You Empty Out All Your Pockets, You Could Not Make the Change
6. Telephone Bill
7. Malachy's
8. Burden of Proof
9. The Mountain People
10. Jill of All Trades

Product Details

  • Audio CD (January 24, 2012)
  • Original Release Date: 2012
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Original recording remastered
  • Label: Real Gone Music
  • ASIN: B0068WKSKQ
  • Average Customer Review: 4.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (19 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #161,515 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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A must recording for every Roches fan!
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I have owned this album on LP for 25+ years and it was one of the only reasons I kept my turntable.
David Dranove
Its piano accompaniment and sparse but emotional lyrics are amazing.
C. Coker

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18 of 19 people found the following review helpful By "lokisings" on July 3, 2003
Format: Audio CD
is contained on this brief breath of spring air. maggie Roche was writing songs that, had she sustained the power of this record and the first ROCHES record would have made her more of a legend than she is today. Combining puns with sharply etched detail, subtle psychological study and nerd humor, SEDUCTIVE REASONING breaks all the rules and comes out winning!
"West Virginia," a portrait of a suyicide in shorthand, tells a life-story in 3 or so minutes, and like life is unresolved, filled with gaps, and yet somehow COMPLETE. Terre Roche, on the last note of this song (the word "see" held out for an eternity)and everywhere she sings, was for one brief moment the most GORGEOUS singer of her generation. Only Sandy Denny, Tim Buckley, Aretha Franklin, Joni Mitchell, Otis Redding, Linda Thompson or one or two others have ever come close to her sparrow-flight singing on this record. What "West Virginia" does for a life at its end, "Down the Dream" does for two lives intertwined by love and racial bigotry.
Maggie's disturbingly deep voice packs a whallop of its own, whether on the (still) funny Paul Simon produced "If You Emptied Out All Your Pockets" or the poignant (and it really is poignant) "Jill of All Trades." "Malachy's," "Underneath the Moon" and "Telephone Bill" sound like mountain streams having a hot date.
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12 of 12 people found the following review helpful By Barnettt on March 28, 2012
Format: Audio CD Verified Purchase
I think this is one of the finest albums ever made. Easily in my top 10. So no qualms there. I own it already on vinyl, and bought this one for the "track-by-track commentary by Maggie Roche and pictures from her archive." And that's where the "BUT..." comes in. The entire commentary for "Jill of All Trades" is "I saw a girl in Washington Square Park"; for "Down the Dream": "Begun in Baton Rouge." They're all like that. Not really the insights I was hoping for. And the "pictures from her archive" is pretty much one and a half pictures from her archive, possibly from the same shoot (though that's not nearly as big a disappointment as the liner notes.)

So
-if you've never heard it, or don't own it, consider this a 5 star review.
-if you already own it, don't buy it on cd just for the booklet.
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8 of 8 people found the following review helpful By Peter Baklava on June 2, 2005
Format: Audio CD
If you were young in the 1970's and feel (like I do) a somewhat conflicted streak of nostalgia for that decade, then this is the album for you. One listen will bring memories back, of all the hitchhiking, the natural foods restaurants, the constant search for some kind of lost Arcadian dream--and the hangover from the 70's, the unfulfilled wishes and unrealized hopes.

This is the first Roche sisters effort (before Suzzy joined) and it was produced by Paul Simon, in part-- also by Paul Samwell-Smith (who produced Cat Stevens) among others. It has more of a beat and a bounce than the subsequent Roches' albums; it's loosey-goosey but it doesn't have the kind of vaudeville kitsch that the sisters put on many of their releases. Maggie and Terre sing these eclectic songs as if they'd lived them--and, given the times, they probably did.

The two Roches stretch out comfortably on these songs, and they both shine. Maggie uses the full range of her remarkable voice, and solos on one of her most poignant songs, "Jill of All Trades." Terre's soprano is featured on "West Virginia".

All of the songs are full of verve and humor, particularly "Wiggling Man", "Telephone Bill", "If You Emptied Out All Your Pockets..." There are many priceless bits of wisdom among the lyrics, and there is a "country rock" sound to the album that the Roches have never revisited.

So this is my advice: find this album somehow, and listen to it. Have a glass of wine, and if you want to read something, "Fast Lanes" by Jayne Anne Phillips would go sensationally well with this music. All together, that should quench your "jones for the 70's" very nicely.

Update Feb 2012: It's great to see this album resurrected again in a cd release. Needless to say, I still cherish it as my favorite of all Roche Sisters albums ( nothing against Suzzy, BTW). I still have my vinyl copy. There really is no other album remotely like it.
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9 of 10 people found the following review helpful By Steve Ramm TOP 100 REVIEWER on January 3, 2012
Format: Audio CD
There are already 11 other 5 star reviews on Amazon so no reason to go into the content - excpt to say the the highlight track here is the lengthy :if You Empty Out All Your Pockets You Could Not Make The Change" (great title, eh?) the sole track produced by Paul Simon (and featuring the Oak Ridge Boys on backing vocals). (Other tracks were produced by two different sets of producers.

BUT the big news is that the CD has been remastered and is being released in new digipak packaging with new liner notes (very short.. but with the lyrics.. by Maggie Roche) on January 23rd.

Amazon has a policy of grouping ALL versions of a CD together so be aware of the DATE of any reviews you read. Though most of the reviews discuss the content, not the actual package or sound, you should take this into acount.

The new CD SOUNDS great! Nice to have it back in print!

I hope you found this review both entertaining and helpful.

Steve Ramm
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful By Mark Hilsdon on February 28, 2005
Format: Audio CD
Next to "The Roches" and "Keep on Doing," this gem by the two older Roche sisters is the finest Roche-achievement to date. The strength of the Roche sisters is their incredible songwriting ability, their tight non-linear harmonies, and their cutting humor. This album has it all. My personal favorites are: Wigglin' Man, If You Empty Out All Your Pockets You Could Not Make Change, Telephone Bill, and Mountain People. Why in the world is this CD out of print???
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