637 of 675 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Far from perfect, but still a great value for a 4K HDTV
The Seiki 4K TV's are relatively new and have recently made some headlines with being one of the first manufacturers to build a 4K TV for a fraction of the price of the competition. There are many questions that I have such as what, if any, sacrifices were made to get such a low price, how does it work as a PC monitor, gaming possibilities, blu-ray, low-def content, etc...
Published 5 months ago by Wayne
107 of 127 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars I have both the 50 and 39 inch versions.
I really have nothing but good things to say about the 50 inch version. It has great colors/response/viewing angles and of course the most important thing.. 4k. It doesn't look great out of the box and does require some adjustments in the service menu. One of the major things it needs is the sharpness set to 0 (that just runes things IMHO).
I am just using it...
Published 4 months ago by houkouonchi
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637 of 675 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Far from perfect, but still a great value for a 4K HDTV,
Customer review from the Amazon Vine Program (What's this?)The Seiki 4K TV's are relatively new and have recently made some headlines with being one of the first manufacturers to build a 4K TV for a fraction of the price of the competition. There are many questions that I have such as what, if any, sacrifices were made to get such a low price, how does it work as a PC monitor, gaming possibilities, blu-ray, low-def content, etc. So let's jump in and see how it does!
DESIGN & INPUTS:
First thing to note is how the TV is being used. It's in a medium sized Media/Game room that measures about 14' x 13', give or take a few inches. There are 2 windows with blackout curtains. And I'm normally sitting anywhere from 4 ft (at my desk) to 11 ft (couch) away. This room has a couple of computers, so it's used as an office / game & media room (aka "man cave").
The TV is only about 2" deep and has thin ¾" border around the screen. However, there is a larger "base" at the bottom where the included stand mounts. This protrudes towards the back another 1". It also only weighs about 50lbs.
The TV is currently sitting on a mobile TV cart with it's included stand so I can roll it around as I compare it to my Toshiba 50L2200U 50-Inch 60Hz LED-LCD HDTV that is mounted on the wall. I wanted time to review before making a commitment to replace the already pretty darn awesome Toshiba. :) It's only about a foot lower and is using the same sources. The stand is a bit wobbly if you bump it, but I shouldn't need it for long.
There is also a 2" wide LED "bar" on the front of the TV that changes from blue (on) to red (off). Even though it's larger than necessary and can't be turned off, it's dim enough so I never even notice it when I'm watching TV, even at night. The buttons are on the right side towards the outer edge, facing back. If you mount on a wall, you'll need to feel around for the buttons if you can't find the remote.
You can check out the specs to see what inputs it has. The main inputs I'm focusing on are the 2 downward facing HDMI inputs and 1 side HDMI input. It lacks Optical Out, but does have Coaxial Out (RCA type of cable for S/PDIF). Just a note as some may want to have a way to route high quality audio to an external source. In particular, if you don't have a 4K compatible receiver (more on that later). Otherwise it has all of the other inputs and outputs most folks are looking for.
So how does it look? After its calibrated, most content looks excellent. As with most TV's the default profiles leave much to be desired. My sources are OTA (Over-The-Air) HDTV, Blu-Ray, DVD, a Media Center PC, and a gaming PC. I don't currently have cable or satellite. There have been some mixed results though.
As with all high resolution displays, lower res content will suffer a bit without up-conversion. This is exaggerated even more when you are up-scaling from "normal HD" (720/1080p) up to Ultra HD (4K2K or 3840x2160). As with virtually all high def TV's this is already done for you, on some level. Although the quality of that will most certainly vary depending on the TV (or external scaler) involved and source material. There are considerably more pixels that have to be filled in on a 4K TV so the quality can vary.
I'm going to have separate sections for the various sources as there was quite a bit to cover. So I'm focusing on overall picture quality of the TV itself. And well, overall, it looks very nice; once calibrated of course (see section below). This is very important. Out of the box this TV had one of the worse picture quality I've seen in quite a while, almost entirely due to Noise Reduction being turned on by default for every input.
The TV does have local dimming where it tries to improve overall contrast ratio by limiting the back-light to only what needs light. You're really only going to notice this on a specific scenes where there isn't much content on the screen. Such as a small opening logo on the screen. It does a good job of limited this so it's not annoying. For example, the first fight scene in Star Wars III is a good test, as it's entirely filmed in space. Black levels looks great, no obvious signs of local dimming, colors were vibrant, no blurring, etc. It's also more than bright enough for daytime viewing with minimal glare. I even had to turn down the brightness at night time.
Side viewing angles are pretty darn good. If you want to get picky, the magenta test pattern does indicate a slight red tint when viewing off angle. In my case, that's standing about 8 ft back, and moving to the sides at least 4-5 ft off center. However, when watching "normal" content at this distance, there was no obvious change in picture quality or tint. When sitting off center at my desk, 4 ft away, you will notice the image start to dim a bit. That's expected and perfectly acceptable for me.
Overall image uniformity is equally impressive and one of the best I've seen, if not quite "perfect." Displaying bright solid color test patterns on the TV, in a dark room, does reveal some spots that are ever so slightly darker (or brighter depending on the pattern) than the rest. We're talking about getting overly critical here folks. This isn't even something I can notice with normal viewing, but I'm throwing it out there regardless.
OTA TV (720p / 1080i @ 60hz):
We'll start with OTA (Over-The-Air) HDTV first. This basically involved a Coax cable connected directly to the TV via an HD Antenna and allowing the internal TV tuner do the work. Keep in mind that OTA will vary depending on the channel, but they are normally either 720p or 1080i. And this is also where I ran into my first issues.
At this time I'm not able to turn off Noise Reduction in the menu. This is available with most TV's and is meant to help clean up lower quality signals (i.e. non-HD content). I can toggle it off and to other levels, but when I go back into the menu, it turns itself back to Medium. This doesn't happen with HDMI inputs.
Unfortunately this has a noticeably negative effect on picture quality. At it's worst it has a very pixelated and almost ghosting effect to the image, especially skin-tones. In addition, I'm seeing A/V sync issues, where the audio isn't quite in sync with the video. I suspect the two are related.
I've already updated the Firmware, but didn't have any effect. I'm waiting to hear back from Seiki technical support and will update as needed (see update at bottom).
MEDIA CENTER & BLU-RAY (PC/1080p @ 60Hz):
I have a dedicated Media Center PC that I normally use for OTA TV, Blu-Ray, and playing hundreds of TV Shows and Movies from various local and internet sources. I've "digitized" most of my DVD/Blu-ray library in high quality 1080p. Unfortunately the older Nvidia GT430 video card in this system isn't capable of outputting to 4K, so we're limited to 1080p.
Which is just fine as I've found everything here to look excellent. And I wanted to test a good "Normal HD" source since that's what most are going to be using right now anyways. It's only when you sit close to the TV (around 4-5 ft) that you start to notice some minor pixelation from the TV up-scaling lower res content. Also, since the TV Tuner in the PC has the liberty of going through HDMI, I don't have Noise Reduction to contend with! Blu-Ray movies are playing with PowerDVD 12 and they also look excellent. I've been watching stuff on here non-stop as I evaluate the TV and adjust settings.
So far, so good. Everything look comparably crisp and clear compared to my Toshiba at normal viewing distances. Even though the colors on the Seiki are definitively a bit more vibrant.
PC MONITOR (4K @ 30hz):
At this resolution, who wouldn't want to at least consider the idea of using the TV as a PC monitor? For this task I have to move to my main gaming rig (more on that below) as the Nvidia GTX 680 graphics card has HDMI 1.4 and can actually output a resolution of 3840x2160, albeit at 30 Hz. I've also had to bypass my Onkyo receiver as it doesn't have 4K pass-through. This is something to keep in mind because if your source is connected to the receiver before the TV, it's not going to be aware that you have a 4K TV connected at the other end.
As you've probably already read, one of the biggest complaints folks have is the limitation of the current (and latest) HDMI 1.4 spec being used with video cards, in that this is as good as it gets. No 60 or 120 Hz at any 4K resolution until you jump back down to 1080p or lower.
However, if you just want to use this as a normal PC Monitor, surf the web, or just multi-task like crazy, there are no issues with the lower refresh rate. The scaling is perfect at it's default settings and everything is very crisp & clear. Just don't expect to read anything from the couch unless you increase the DPI scaling and/or font/text size within your OS. The text is quite small!
There is a very slight amount input/refresh lag with the mouse. It's minor, and probably won't bother you with basic apps on the desktop, but still noticeable to my sensitive gaming self.
Since the PC is the only true 4K source I have in the house, I fired up several 4K videos from YouTube as well some nice looking 4K images I have. Put simply, they looked excellent. However, depending on the videos, some did have choppiness due to only being 30 Hz, while others seemingly ran perfectly smooth. I suspect this will be one of the biggest complaints when relying on your PC for 4K goodness.
GAMING (4K @ 30 Hz):
I'm using a 20' HDMI 1.4 cable to connect my nearby gaming PC directly to the TV. There is no "game mode" on the TV, so what you see is what you get. And that is basically 4K resolution at 30 FPS (Frames Per Second). Most PC gamers are used to being much closer 60 FPS as it does result in smoother game-play.
Console gamers or perhaps less hard-core PC gamers who are probably either used to the 30 Hz they've been playing with on the TV for years may simply not notice and/or care. For my test I fired up Battlefield 3 and Starcraft II, set them to the max resolution, turned on vertical sync, and lowered the details enough to ensure a consistent frame rate. That was usually around low to medium settings, by the way.
Vertical sync will keep the frames capped at the max the display can handle, which in this case is of course 30 FPS. In addition to preventing screen tearing, this limits widely varying frame rates which can also result in a more negatively perceived gaming experience. Being an RTS (Real-Time Strategy) game, SC2 is actually playable, although input lag was more noticeable here than at the desktop. In BF3, being the FPS (First Person Shooter) that it is, was a bit worse; basically unplayable for me.
While the graphics looked awesome on this TV, I won't be playing any serious games at this resolution. 60 Hz would definitely improve the overall experience, but that won't help input/refresh lag on it's own, and may not even be available for PC's until future revisions of DisplayPort (which the TV doesn't have).
GAMING (1080p @ 120 Hz):
At first I didn't bother with this as the input lag noted above was an issue. However, it would appear after the recent Firmware update I applied, it has drastically improved input lag and delay at 1080p. Unfortunately there was no change at 4K resolution. After selecting "Customize..." within the NVIDIA Control Panel (under Resolution) I was able to select 1920x1080 @ 120 Hz, Progressive.
This simple change from 60 to 120 Hz is even noticeable at the desktop where text is suddenly much sharper and clearer. I could actually use this as a gaming monitor sitting perhaps 3 ft away. Of course this isn't anywhere near the crispness of 4K due to scaling, as some smaller text is still blurry this close; but not bad. So I tried out SC2 and BF3 again and they are indeed very playable, running right up there at 120 FPS. The Nvidia GTX 680 has no problem keeping up. Although to maintain 100+ FPS, I have had to bump down the resolution on games just a bit from their maxed out settings.
TV MENU & 120 Hz:
Before I get into calibration, I should first mention that there are very few settings to adjust on this TV. What I list below is all you get for HDMI picture quality adjustment. Also note that you can't adjust any of the preset modes (Movie, Normal, & Dynamic). Once you make a change, you're into the 4th "User" Picture Mode. Each input also has it's own memory for settings.
In fact, the menu in general is very basic. You've got Picture, Audio, Time, Setup, Lock, and Channel settings. In each menu, there are only a couple of settings. And none of these let you control 120 Hz or enable some form of "motion smoothing," as it's often called (and often assumed to be present with 120 Hz TV's). It's just something the TV does automatically in certain display modes, such as when it's requested by the source.
When watching movies, I'm rather sensitive to 120 Hz (or higher) motion smoothing as I often find this feature quite bothersome and always turn it off. I find it kills the cinematic feel of the film. Just person preference of course. The good news is that in my testing I really haven't seen it's effects anywhere.
The menu also annoyingly goes away if you don't push a button after about 10 seconds. I don't expect a lot for a non-smart TV, but a bit more adjustments would be nice. Although it's still a relatively minor issue as I was able to get a nice picture with it's limited menu.
This is a combination of adjusting on the fly and a bit of help from the Disney World of Wonder calibration disc. Which I should add, is a must-have for HD TV's. Since some of this is indeed personal preference, you may just want to use this as a starting point and go from there. Also see "Menu" section above regarding lack of options.
*** Note: If there's one setting you do adjust, make sure you turn off Noise Reduction. I noted this previously, but feel it deserves mention again. It has such a negative effect on HD picture quality I can easily see why somebody would want to return the TV if they didn't check that menu setting. ***
Disclaimer: I'm not an "A/V expert" by any means and I'm still playing with these few settings. Although these are so basic, it's hard to mess it up. :)
Tint: Can't adjust with HDMI
Color Temperature: Normal
Noise Reduction:Off (In Setup Menu)
DLC (Dynamic Luminance Control): Off
Advanced: Can't use, only for VGA input
SOUND & REMOTE:
There really isn't a nice way to put this, but the built-in "speakers" are pretty bad - even for a flat panel TV. They are down-firing speakers and are located on the bottom of the TV. They have a very "tiny" and weak sound to them. Changing the mode from Stereo to Surround helps as it at least gives the impression the sound is coming from the front, versus somewhere on the sides. Quite unusual. Although in my case, I'll be running to a surround sound system, so I won't bash them too much.
The remote is very basic and almost as bad the speakers. Which may be partially due to the IR receiver on the TV, which is located right next to the LED bar on the front. It has all of the right buttons, but it's not universal, and is very picky as to how you're pointing it at the TV. Just the wrong angle or not directly at the IR sensor, and it'll ignore your input. Or it will register additional button pushes 1-2 seconds after you've stopped pressing them.
One nice feature is a Picture Mode toggle button. So it's got that going for it. I'll have to keep that in mind as I program my Harmony Remote to take over. :)
+ Thin design
+ Great value for a 4K TV
+ Contrast ratio
+ Vibrant colors and accuracy
+ Viewing angles
+ Picture quality
+ LED Backlit
+ 1080p Gaming @ 120 Hz
+ Good scaling of "Normal HD" content to 4k
+ Ultra HD 4K Resolution!
+ 3 HDMI Inputs
- OTA TV Issues (Noise Reduction & A/V Sync)
- Limited Menu Options (i.e. Picture Adjustments)
- Can't adjust 120 Hz setting
- HDMI 1.4 limited to 30 Hz @ 4k.
- Input/Refresh Lag @ 4K/30Hz
- Cheap Remote
- Low quality speakers
- No DisplayPort Input
- No Optical Out (It does have Coaxial for S/PDIF)
- Wobbly Stand
Well, this review ended up being way longer than expected. But hopefully I was able to give you enough organized information so you can find what you're looking for out of this TV. At least from my personal experiences and opinions. The big question is probably whether or not you should even buy a 4K TV right now with such limited content available.
I think if you're in the market for a new TV and you can find one in your budget, there's no harm in going a little future proof. And with 4K I think it's safe to say you're good for the next couple years. :) And just remember, new 4K hardware and content is already rolling out.
At this time, I'm going to give this 4.5 stars with a reserved recommendation depending on what you're expectations are for this TV. And of course, pending feedback from Seiki with regards to the OTA TV issues. That's mostly based on the pure "4K TV value factor" going on here. The TV Tuner is not something I'm personally going to use, and most of the negatives aren't relevant to my needs; but do want to follow up for those interested. I'll be updating the review as I get more info.
Feel free to comment with any questions and I'll respond as soon as I can. Thanks!
*** UPDATE 7/02/13:
I spoke with a Seiki Technician regarding not being able to disable the Noise Reduction feature with OTA TV. Apparently, that's "working as designed." I explained the negative effect it has on the picture, but it doesn't look like there is anything they can do about it as they believe it should be on. Perhaps if enough folks complain they'll "fix" that menu option and even keep it Off by default for all inputs.
I've also decided to use this TV as my main PC monitor (via HDMI 1.4a). It's been a few days since I made room for this huge "monitor" on my desk and it's been pretty darn awesome. I just run at 4K/30 Hz for desktop tasks and then switch over to 1080p/120Hz for Gaming. So far the only issue I've had is when Windows turned off the display (i.e. power management), it would intermittently cause the TV to go into it's power-off state (red LED) and not respond until I pulled the power cable.
Disabling this feature in the OS has so far resolved that issue. Going in and out of stand-by or hibernate hasn't caused any issues. The technician did suggest removing power for 3 hours to allow everything to fully reset, should issues persist. Otherwise everything is working well.
389 of 430 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Total breakthrough for linux programmers.,
So I spent all day working with different modelines to try to manually get the resolutin right. The monitor was impressive and would display all kinds of modes between 1920x1080 and 3840x2160. BUT. They were all kind of blurry and would not have worked to program all day on.
Well after about 4 hours of working with random timings and resolutions I thought I would try xrandr with the 3840x2160 modes untill I found one that very closely matched an hsync of 30. I found the closest line that I could get to 30hz was:
root@dv7# cvt 3840 2160 13.8
# 3840x2160 13.79 Hz (CVT) hsync: 30.05 kHz; pclk: 144.25 MHz
Modeline "3840x2160_13.80" 144.25 3840 3944 4320 4800 2160 2163 2168 2180 -hsync +vsync
I guess you could find something closer but that was close enough. So I ran:
xrandr --newmode "3840x2160_13.80" 144.25 3840 3944 4320 4800 2160 2163 2168 2180 -hsync +vsync
xrandr --addmode HDMI1 "3840x2160_13.80"
Those make it so you can select it in the Displays or monitors section depending on your distribution (make sure you have the right HDMI port by running xrandr without any arguments).
If you don't know where the monitors section is you can run (leave off the quotes):
xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 3840x2160_13.80
Anyway after I ran that and the monitor came back from being black... BAM! Super high definition and huge display! I was so happy I cried a little. Not a pixel is bad and text is so sharp it is like sitting in front of 4 monitors!
I cannot think of anything I have ever bought that deserved all 5 stars any more than this product.
My monitor prayers have been answered.
You can feel safe with the purchase. (I purchased it from Amazon fulfillment)
This has made my year.
142 of 167 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Pioneering 4K TV (+ Firmware Upgrade Steps),
Customer review from the Amazon Vine Program (What's this?)Being first is difficult, especially when it comes to technology. The Seiki Digital SE50UY04 is the first reasonably priced 4K TV. "4k" is the new buzzword for LCD TV technology and the easiest way to understand what 4K means is that there 4 times as many pixels than HDTV/1080i. 4K means the LCD supports a resolution of 3840x2160 pixels and it is also sometimes called QFHD or UltraHD.
Below I'll outline the status of 4K technology but the summary description is that this TV is excellent but the price point may make it more suitable for console gamers, graphics designers, and "early adopters" who like to play with new technology. Two years from now 4K will come on most new TVs and media components but this is the first inexpensive 4K HDTV.
[Review] 10=Good, 1=Bad
Fit and Finish: 8
Picture Quality: 9
Sound quality: 7
Ease of Use: 7
What you are getting here is an excellent basic Ultra DH TV and monitor. The basic fit and finish is elegant and minimal. The base seems to be real glass. The bezel is so thin it fits in the same space in my entertainment my 42" plasma was occupying. The TV has basic controls and adjustment but this isn't a smart TV.
This TV isn't perfect. That's why this TV is meant for early adopters. Unless Seiki comes up with some special double-headed HDMI cable, specialized video card controller or firmware magic trick to feed in true 4K, we are probably stuck using it with unconverted content. The HDMI 1.4 plugs on this TV can't handle true >30Hz 4K bandwidth. It would be nice if HDMI 2.0 was approved and incorporated into this tv. It would also be nice if Seiki had put a Displayport connection on this TV. But they didn't. The remote isn't that greatest either. Under the warranty you are responsible for packaging the shipping the TV back to them.
Unfortunately there isn't much 4K content available. So why would you buy this? Right now if you have a new, high-power AMD/NVidia PC video card, with a little tweaking you can view beautiful 1080p games unconverted to 4K. But the real reason for most to buy a 4K LCD is because later this year the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 come out and they both support 4K upscaling. Don't expect streaming 4K from Netflix or Amazon until 2014 or 2015. Youtube has 4K videos (youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5BF9E09ECEC8F88F) but they can be hard to identify. Over the next year you will start to see most major sporting events broadcast in 4K.
There are two technologies that need to be widely adopted for 4K to become common:
1) High Efficiency Video Coding (HEVC/H.265) that will compress 4K video so that it only doubles the amount of data transmitted rather than quadrupling it as content goes from 1080p to 4K
2) HDMI 2.0 to support higher data bandwidth and frequency for full 60Hz 4K video.
Even if new Blu-Ray players and media streaming devices don't broadcast true 4K they will still probably utilize more sophisticated 4K upconverting techniques that send better 4K signals to the TV. So what happens if your Blu-Ray Player, DVD Player, DVR, Direct TV Receiver or Cable Receiver doesn't support 4K yet (probably)? The video stream is "upscaled" in the TV itself. In other words, a chip in the TV creates extra pixels to fill in the extra information. The result looks great but not as good as true 4K. The more the TV has to upscale, the poorer the results.
Here are two things you should remember:
1) If you buy a new Blu-ray player or home theater device make sure it supports at least a 4K upscaling.
2) CHECK/UPGRADE THE TV FIRMWARE RIGHT AWAY, DIRECTIONS BELOW. The upscaling software it comes with had a bug and they fixed it so upscaling works better.
When I set this up I located my Sony Blu-Ray player under the TV in the gap between the stand and monitor. I ran HDMI cables from my XBox 360, Blu-Ray and HTPC directly into the TV and then ran Coaxial Audio from the TV to my Home Theater Audio Receiver.
Set the sharpness filter to 0 if used as PC monitor
Not a 3D set, 3D content does supposedly display on the set as 1920 x 2205 at 24p (untested)
[+] 4K = Awesome 3840x2160 resolution
[+] Thin Screen and Thin Bezel: 44.80"x26.66"x2.09" (2 inches taller with stand)
[+] Light (43lbs w/o stand, 49lbs with stand)
[+] 1 Year Full Replacement Warranty (call 855-MY-SEIKI )
[+] 120Hz Refresh
[+] 3 HDMI Ports
[+] Inexpensive 4K
[+] 176 Degree Viewing angle
[+] Comes with one UHD HDMI Cable
[-] Only supports 30Hz 4K due to HDMI 1.4 Limitations. HDMI 2.0, Displayport or Thunderbolt are needed
[-] Not a "Smart" TV - wish it supported DLNA
[-] You pay shipping to pack and return a defective TV under the 1 year replacement warrantee
[-] No Toslink Optical Audio
[-] Cheap Remote
[Remote Control Codes]
** on my Sony Blu-Ray Remote the code is "04" for this TV
[..] DIRECTV - 10178
[..] Time Warner Cable - 0178
[..] Philips - 0002
[..] Comcast - 11864 or 10178
[..] Cox Communications - 0178
[..] Atlas DVR Device URC - 0178
[..] Bell Remotes & Dish Network - 505, 506, 516, 523, 526, 566, 573, 612, 627, 647, 652, 653, 654, 655, 656, 658, 659, 664, 665, 667, 669, 670, 679, 680, 704, 717, 730, 738
[FIRMWARE UPDATE INSTRUCTIONS]
1. Download firmware from Seiki site (seikidigital.com/support/downloads.php)
2. Unzip firmware to FAT32 formatted USB stick
3. Put the thumb drive in USB port 1 (bottom of TV)
4. Turn the TV on
5. On your remote press the "menu" button
6. Then on your remote press "0" 4 times, that will take you into the service menu.
7. In the service menu choose the software upgrade option
7. Screen will display upgrade animation
8. Patiently wait for the upgrade to finish
9. Turn off TV when finished
10. Disconnect thumb drive
- Installed Ubuntu 13.04 with ATI Proprietary Drivers for the HD 6670 card. Rebooted and card is outputting 4K @ 30HZ. Unfortunately there is video tearing. Will try tweaking settings. Desktop looks awesome.
- Hooked this up to my HTPC and installed the latest ATI Catalyst driver and it shows a check-box for stereoscopic 3D. Loaded a 3D demo video on Youtube and put on my cheesy 3D glasses...beautiful 3D. I honestly don't know why an ordinary monitor couldn't do the same thing but I can tell you it works here. Poking around on the web it seems this may be a "passive" 3D monitor capable of displaying some 3D content but maybe not others.
52 of 59 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Native 120hz @ 1080p, an Extremely Rare and Surprising Feature,
Almost always, when a TV says it's 120hz, it means it takes the 30hz or 60hz signal, and interpolates frames in between. The frames generated in between the true input frames cause additional display lag, and tend to look worse with more motion. True Native 120hz [Which this TV is capable of] is usually something only found on high end computer monitors, and requires the computer to output at 120hz. The option for monitors display at double the standard 60hz, typically leads to a price tag that's double the norm.
When I first plugged in, I couldn't for the life of me figure out how they could advertise "120hz". There was no option to turn on frame blending, or motion interpolation. But to my utter astonishment, the variety of 120hz offered by this TV is native 120hz, not the gimmick 120hz you'll find on every other TV. Although not listed as standard resolutions under most operating systems, it is indeed possible to output 120hz via HDMI. If you're using windows and a graphics card half a decade new, look for the ToastyX Custom Resolution Utility. Tweaking settings, and a few restarts later, this monitor is tested to be capable of the following refresh rates:
3840x2160 (8 megapixel)@ 30hz
2560x1440 (4 megapixel)@ 60hz
1920x1080 (2 megapixel)@ 120hz
1280x720 (1 megapixel)@ 200hz
Input lag is significant at 4k, but nonexistent at any other resolution. So if you're going to do some gaming, sit back with the biggest 120hz monitor on the market, with naturally built in subsampling. If you need to visually parse data, and organize information, pull that epic 4k option out of your pocket to see 8 megapixels at once. Or if you're looking for a middle ground, 2560x1440 is smooth, scales well, and is sharper any other TV on the market, yet larger than any other 2560x1440 monitor on the market.
This TV is not really a TV. It's a 50 inch LED monitor that will accept every resolution, to the maximum bandwidth of HDMI 1.4, that happens to have a tuner, speakers, and multiple inputs. You need to connect this to a computer. If you're not, go buy one with the three thousand dollars you're saving off the next cheapest 4k TV.
107 of 127 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars I have both the 50 and 39 inch versions.,
This review is from: Seiki Digital SE39UY04 39-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz LED TV (Electronics)I really have nothing but good things to say about the 50 inch version. It has great colors/response/viewing angles and of course the most important thing.. 4k. It doesn't look great out of the box and does require some adjustments in the service menu. One of the major things it needs is the sharpness set to 0 (that just runes things IMHO).
I am just using it as a monitor but i have watched a bit of 4k content here and there (via a computer). I also do use it as a TV/media center as a big desk replaced the stand my old 42 inch TV used to be on and now this doubles as a monitor and a TV. All TV content is ran off a computer so I have no issue with the scaler which is not the best quality.
One of the things that made me very happy was the fact it was very low input lag and would do 120 Hz @ 1080p which meant it could be used for gaming as well. I am super sensitive to input lag and it is slightly noticable at 1080p but pushing 240Hz @ 720p (tv still only refreshes at 120hz) seems to half the input lag which makes it completely unnoticeable to me.
There is only one reason why this TV does not get 5 stars (as I am reviewing the 39 inch model). Unlike the 50 inch model the 39 inch can't do >60Hz. This is a big bummer as there is significantly more input lag at 60Hz and it makes the TV from being great for gaming but poor for gaming and only good for production use. IMHO gaming is the only thing where >30 hz is actually *necessary*. Sure its nice to have but not required IMHO. Gaming at 60hz is bareable but with the added input lag its not great. The lack of 120Hz on the 39 inch model significantly lowers its value in my book.
Size-wise the 39 inch works much better as a monitor and is a great size. The 50 inch is a bit big for a monitor but I still have been enjoying it on my big desk especially as it doubles as a TV for me.
For those of you on ATI with the 50 inch display you can try using my modified monitor .inf to get 120Hz out of it. On nvidia this is easy to do by adding a custom resolution but I made the inf for people on windows/ATI. I personally use linux to drive the display. Lowered review from 4 to 3 stars.
Unfortunately my 39 inch display died with only 1 full day of use and I had it for less than a week. I would guess less than 15 hours of usage total on it. Amazon was great in getting a replacement scheduled to be shipped out but not very happy that the monitor died so quickly. Hoping I was just unlucky. The 50 inch version has been spot on so far. Since I use it as a monitor and a TV I easily use it 10-12 hours/day.
24 of 26 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Good value, great for PC but know what you are buying.,
This review is from: Seiki Digital SE39UY04 39-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz LED TV (Electronics)Considering the 4K content available in this earl stage of the 4K lifespan, I do wonder why others are buying this display. The 4K site states that the viewer needs to be 5 to 6 feet away to see the difference on a 4K screen. That presented no problem for me as I am sitting less the 3 feet away as I type this (which is shortly after the announcement of the HDMI 2.0 standard).
My purpose in buying this unit was solely to use as a PC monitor. I had been using 3 1600x1200 displays rotated into portrait mode because that is how I work -- 3 large text displays, editing code. I became so accustomed to this, anything less is constantly frustrating. Since 1080p displays became a standard, the quality of monitors has dropped and one would have to pay through the nose for higher resolution. 2560x1440 IPS displays have only recently dropped below $500 if you don't care about brand or source.
I've been watching display prices. When the Seikis appeared, I couldn't believe it. I felt there must be a catch but I couldn't find one. I'd been putting off building a new system until certain key components were more affordable, namely displays and 1TB SSDs. When both appeared < $700, I decided to go for it.
I can only detail how they work as a PC monitor. There are drawbacks but they are few.
The first drawback was that from a PC they require 30 Hz input, period. I had attempted to use the built in graphics of the Intel i7 4770K CPU. The i7 supports 4K but only at a max of 24 Hz. The Seiki reported to the system that 24 Hz was supported but it could not be displayed, the Seiki reported signal issues and I could only see corrupted glimpses of the desktop every few seconds. I supplied a graphics card that supported 4K and multiple timings and the Seiki was happy. When I looked at the screen resolutions the Seiki was reporting to Windows that it could support, it listed 24 through 30 Hz.
What's great about the Seiki is that my Windows desktop looks great. I was concerned about having a monitor that is only 30 Hz. I must say, it is not an issue. I have no idea what this looks like for gaming but I would guess that it would be run at 120 Hz 1080p. And as another reviewer pointed out, you need to go into the Seiki's menu so that it doesn't try to enhance your picture. And if you are using Windows, I highly recommend finding the ClearType settings and adjusting them. If you're a Windows user and you've never done this, you should. Like a visit to the optometrist Windows will give you a bunch of text images and you tell it which is clearer and it will display the text as sharp as your monitor and your comfort allow. Also, if you are a Windows user and run older programs that attempt a bad scaling of the fonts they use, you should know about a little used setting you can make. It involves finding the .exe of the program, not a shortcut, and right-clicking on it and selecting Properties. From there you go to the compatibility tab and find the box that says, "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". This can make a difference on monitors of 1080p and higher. This should only be used if needed and will not have an affect on most programs.
Now, here are the downsides, I've encountered.
Low contrast text appears a bit fuzzy. I write a lot of code. I stare at text a lot. Text editors for programming colorize text to aid readability. I use a dark gray background. The typical default color for a code comment is green. There isn't a lot of contrast between it and the background and it just isn't as sharp. And this text is just not sharp. Readable but fuzzy. My guess is how LED displays handle contrast and black from backlighting. People complained that early LCD monitors didn't display black only dark gray. Enter LED backlighting, backlighting is turned on behind a pixel when the display determines it's bright enough to need it. That way sections that want black can be black and you can have vivid images with high contrast. The downside is the backlighting isn't at the same resolution of the display. For a picture it doesn't represent a problem but for text with immediate changes from black to white or from grey to green in this case it does and the contrast is lost and the text isn't as sharp. All other text is sharp, and you aren't likely to have a lot of low contrast text anyway.
The other annoyances are minor. I don't like the remote. Every remote I have has the volume on the left side, this one has it on the right and you can't really navigate it by feel.
It has no auto-on. This means if your PC after going into screen saver mode turns off the display, the Seiki will sit there on a blue screen for several minutes and then turn itself on. If you wake up the PC, you will have to manually turn the Seiki on. This isn't adjustable in settings. It also doesn't auto-switch to the input with a valid signal, which depending how you like things may be a plus.
There are buttons to turn the Seiki on, adjust volume and change input. You'll need to feel around to the back on the lower right and learn where they are by feel or keep the remote handy.
That's not a lot to complain about, and none of them are deal-breakers.
Video and final thoughts.
As for video, I haven't found a lot. And just because a video is 4K doesn't mean it's a good image. There's still the level of compression and the quality of the compression method used, otherwise you get a blocky image with compression artifacts particularly when there's a lot of fast motion going on. There's a growing list on YouTube. And when you get up close to examine the detail, all a 4K display does is show how imperfect the video is. There is one called Skydive Dubai which uses about half the bandwidth of the others but has less compression artifacts.
There are only a handful of true 4K movies, and I'm not really motivated to shell out $700 for Sony's 4K video streamer but I am curious what the demo videos it is preloaded with look like. There are no 4K blu-ray discs right now (there's barely a spec) but there are streamable 4K movies you can buy. And that concerns me. Generally, a blu-ray movie fits on a single blu-ray layer < 25GB. The studios are big on packaging multiple discs but the truth is, they could fit everything with all the extras except the DVD version on a single disc. But that movie at 15 to 20GB is still a huge whopping download. When you stream an HD movie, that video has been compressed by a huge amount. Put this way, a typical fast connection will get you 2GB per hour. When you stream HD from Netflix or whoever, they know you don't want to sit around through 2 meals waiting for your video to start, so that blu-ray which is still compressed video gets compressed again a whole lot more.
A 4K image is 4 times the size of blu-ray. This means (because of the way compression algorithms work) it takes about twice the size of a blu-ray to get the equivalent quality level. But when streamed, unless you are going to wait overnight for your movie to be downloaded, you are going to be getting reduced quality. Which makes the only reason they want to sell us 4K movies is to make them streamable and get rid of resale or even loaning your mom your disc. It's the way it will be, eventually.
I bought this to use as a good monitor. It's a bit small to use top watch movies but it is very nice for editing photographs, text and likely videos as well. I'm very happy with it. I imagine Seiki will learn and improve future models.
If you read this far, thanks for listening to rambles along with the review. I hope this helps.
22 of 25 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars tweaking technology geek developers should just buy this now,
This review is from: Seiki Digital SE39UY04 39-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz LED TV (Electronics)I'm really happy with it, but i have a few reservations about recommending it wholesale to just anyone. The SEIKI 39" 4k "TV" still has limitations as a computer monitor. It has HDMI 1.4b inputs, which means it can only support 30Hz at 4k resolution. Hopefully future revisions of this display support HDMI 2.0, or add DisplayPort connections to enable 60Hz. I hear this is a big deal for gaming, but I don't notice it in my daily web developer workflow.
The display visual quality is great, not color perfect for photography, but close enough for any general dev and web work. It does have a glossy screen, which can be a distraction if you're used to matte displays or have a bright work environment.
At 39" it is about 110dpi, which is 10dpi higher than my previous 3 dell ultrasharp fp2001 21" 1600x1200 monitors which were ~96dpi. Text and curves are smoother now. It's essentially like having 4 20" 1080p monitors without bezels. I appreciate that I benefit from the extra pixel real estate here rather than a dpi bump of the other brands 30" 4k monitors.
The hugest improvement to my workflow is thanks to the incredible 2160 vertical pixels. That means less scrolling text in code files, less scrolling for long web pages, or in my case, plenty of room for a 1080p sized window with a 1080p sized F12 dev tools or firebug window embedded into the same window. AMAZING! Excel and PHPMyAdmin are easier than ever to digest information full screen at 4k resolution for database tables with a lot of columns and rows.
I was already accustomed to using the windows app "GridMove" to break up the large monitor into smaller virtual window spaces that i can maximize windows to instantly with keyboard shortcuts. Keyboard shortcuts are key because it feels like a long trip with the mouse cursor moving from one corner to the opposite of the 3840x2160 maximized screen.
The biggest drawback for using it as a monitor are mostly the result of it being designed as a TV. As other reviews mention, it doesn't support DPMS power off/on support which is how windows shuts down the monitor after the pc become idle, and turns it back on when you wiggle the mouse, etc... A complication of that is when the monitor is powered off Windows thinks it has been disconnected, and all my windows are resized to a 1024x768 corner in the top left of the monitor when i unlock my workstation. This could be the result of the AMD video card drivers too, i'm not sure. An easy workaround is to leave the monitor on and use a "blank screen" screensaver instead of the power saver options. (assuming your admin's windows group policy allows that option, mine doesn't) Instead i found an autoHotkey script that can learn and later restore window placement. I use that after i logon to put all my windows back where i had them previously.
I initially bought a low end AMD R7 230 2GB video card (~$70) that supported 4k over hdmi. It worked fine for desktop, but couldn't keep up with 4k youtube video playback fullscreen.
Our new workstations have AMD Firepro W5000 2GB cards that are about 3x more powerful, it has no problems keeping up with 4k youtube video.
So overall, yes, I would without a doubt choose this monitor again at this price point. (I even saw it went on sale for $117 cheaper than i paid last week!) It's ideal for a problem solver developer or techie, but i'd hesitate to recommend it for somebody who'd prefer something that "just works" without tweaking. I hope the next generation will learn some lessons from this early milestone in price to pixels. I'd love to see a 39" with a matte display and even a single DisplayPort input supporting 4k at 60Hz. (ditch the TV tuner and coax inputs, etc and sell this as a monitor!)
Hope this helps somebody who was intrigued as I was by this display!
I have calibrated my display for the computer using the X-rite "ColorMunki Display" spectrometer and software. I've the resulting SE39UY04_D65.icm file here. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4108993/SE39UY04_D65.icm
In Windows 7, i think you can install that profile using the Control Panel > Color Management screen.
My seiki menu picture settings that go with that profile are ...
Picture Mode: User
Color Temp: User > Reset to 128, 128, 128, 512, 512, 512
My settings might not work right for you, as there may be variation with different video cards, display batches, ambient lighting, etc... Please read up before you change your calibration settings, you're on your own here :) Also, if you don't have a backlight setting in your menu, you may want to consider updating your Seiki's firmware.
22 of 25 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Way better than what I expected...,
This review is from: Seiki Digital SE39UY04 39-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz LED TV (Electronics)First off, I plugged my computer into this TV using a DVI to HDMI plug, and it worked, instantly.
I was in 4K mode as soon as it was successfully hooked up which only took a few seconds.
Something you should know if you're using it for your PC is that it will make everything TINY on your screen. You can still read everything if you have 20/20 vision just fine, I personally just didn't expect it to be so small, so naturally when I browse web sites I zoom in to a comfortable size.
The whole point of me having 4k is for video/game/graphic resolution web browsing is an easy fix with the zoom function. I can't really see any pixels like I did on my old TV, and look at photos/4k footage is pretty mind-blowing, your monitor becomes like a window in your house really.
Anyway, let's get to pros and cons.
- As advertised & better than I expected.
- High resolution shows extremely well, no defects.
- Computer detected screen right away & adjusted instantly.
- Extremely inexpensive compared to competitors, still trying to figure out why outside the brand name.
- Energy efficient ($17 a year to run).
- Can be a little rough on older graphics cards as it is literally like running 4 monitors at 1080p at the same time.
- Screen needs some adjustment from the default settings, reduce sharpness & contrast + increase brightness.
- Box was extremely beat up/punctured when shipped by FedEx, TV survived just fine though.
- Slight lag when scrolling, I believe it's a graphics card issue however as when I adjust the display settings to zoom 150% in Windows 7, things run more smoothly.
The lag created using 4k resolution I believe was in fact caused by my graphics card. I'm running some pretty heavy hardware (very expensive graphics cards running simultaneously). What this says is that it is not at all the TV's fault that my movement on screen lags slightly.
The lag did however become unbearable for completing the tasks I do on my computer so I went ahead and switched back to my regular LED screen for difficult tasks and only use the 4K for viewing materials in high resolution.
If you are experiencing lag but do not want to revert to another screen, you can always change the resolution of your display to 1080p, the lag will literally cease to exist when you reduce the resolution that drastically. You will notice initially that the aspect ratio is off, but you can fix this by trying differing aspect ratios through the buttons on the remote that comes with the TV.
Also, remember, you'll probably want to adjust the brightness/contrast/sharpness to make the text appear as it does on normal monitors.
24 of 28 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars 8+ megapixel 50", retina monitor at 39" away,ASUS PB278Q 27-Inch WQHD LED-lit PLS Professional Graphics Monitor) about 30" away, and had to increase the scaling size in Window's to about 117%, this monitor at 39" inches away and 100% scaling is an excellent combination.
Mine arrived yesterday, in perfect condition, and I must have said "Wow" about thirty times in the first hour. Even the delivery driver said wow when I flipped to 4K desktop resolution in Windows 7. He also said he delivered 4 of these that day. I used Photoshop full screen mode to put pure black/write/red/green/blue images across the whole monitor, and have yet to find a single dead or stuck pixel. I'm currently driving it with an under $100 AMD HD 7750 based video card (Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 1GB DDR5 HDMI / DVI-I / DP PCI-Express Graphics Card 11202-00-20G) and it seems to display 4K just fine, although sometimes get the sense a higher performance video card would be better. 4K video playback via Flash on Youtube seems a little less smooth that is ideal, 1080P seems fine. I have a single slot width Nvidia GeForce GT 640 (EVGA GeForce GT 640 2048MB GDDR3 Dual DVI, mHDMI Graphics Cards 02G-P4-2645-KR) which is supposed to drive 4K HDMI but have yet to try it. I also have a new Intel Core i7-4770S (Intel Core i7-4770S Quad-Core Desktop Processor 3.1 GHZ 8 MB Cache- BX80646I74770S) on an Intel DH87RL motherboard (Intel Boxed Desktop Board DH87MC Micro ATX DDR3 1600 LGA 1150 Motherboard BOXDH87RL) which is supposed to support 4K HDMI with just the CPUs GPU, which I also have not yet tried.
I was initially a little concerned about the smooth screen surface. It seemed more reflective than the Asus PB278Q monitor I was using, but so far, reflections have not been a problem. The room I have it in doesn't have a lot of bright objects to reflect. I personally prefer a very non-reflective screen, although many argue they are not as sharp.
I am seeing some slightly strange behaviors from a few apps, like Photoshop CS6 seems to slow down for the first minute after being opened, and only refreshing tiles of an image unless you move the cursor around. After a little bit, if finishes "warming up" and seems happy. I don't remember it doing this on a smaller display. This is not a issue with the monitor, but might be a display driver or application issue. I see IE10 html5 video playback of 4K youtube video does not work either, you have to use Flash for 4K. Youtube 4K video also has a lot of compression artifacts, and think 4K streaming video may just not be viable (I have 55 mbps cable modem service).
Initially I was seeing the monitor image drop out every few hours, requiring power off/on with the remote to fix. Updating the firmware seems to have solved this. I also turned down the backlight to about 70 while in the service menu, as the default 100 was too bright when sitting 3 feet away. Turning down the backlight also reduced the monitor power consumption to about 75 watts, from about 100 watts. When off, my UPS says power consumption is close to zero.
The display settings I'm currently using are: Contrast 61, Brightness 46, Color 48, Sharpness 0 (important for computer monitor text sharpness) and Noise reduction to off.
So far (only 24 hours of ownership) I have only found three things I wish were different.
The display acts like a TV as far as power management goes. This means if your computer goes into sleep/screen saver, the monitor displays a message saying "no signal" for a few minutes and then turns totally off. Unlike a good computer monitor, it doesn't turn back on when the computer wakes back up, you have to manually press the power button on the remote. It looks like this TV does not support DPMS, the standard use to put computer monitors into standby mode and wake them back up. This might be fixable with a firmware update, and plan to contact Seiki technical support.
The second thing is it could have a better base. The base is really simple (although reasonable attractive), does not tilt or swivel, and is about 2"-3" above a desktop. The monitor does have mounting holes in the back, so a TV stand/wall mount is a possible solution to get optimal ergonomics. Considering this monitor was $4000-$5000 less than alternatives (the 39" is even less), having to spend money on a mount is not so terrible.
The third thing is I wish it had a DisplayPort interface. I believe this would allow 4K x 60 Hz today. The HDMI 1.4b interface only allows a maximum of 4K x 30 Hz, which for typical desktop computer use is not a major problem (the panel refreshes at 120 Hz). For gamers, and people editing 60 Hz video, and smoothest text scrolling, 60 Hz would be a better. When programming, I can see a little jitter when scrolling a text window which I'd guess is a 30 Hz artifact, although due to the resolution I can also just make edit windows twice as high and scroll half as much. This will definitely not be a firmware upgrade. One argument I have seen is current DisplayPort could not do 4K x 120 Hz for shutter glasses 3D, so Seiki working on a next generation interface would at this point be better use of their hardware engineers. Adjusting the EDID data to show 1920x1080p@120Hz as supported would be a nice firmware update too, and reports are this monitor can do this today, over the current HDMI interface, but you have to manually configure a set of display parameters. I was considering buying a 3D computer monitor, but guess I just need to buy some appropriate shutter glasses now.
I would love to see either a computer/monitor OEM or Seiki themselves sell a slightly tweaked version optimized for computer use.
So how does the image look? Wow best describe it. On the AMD 7750, text is super sharp, colors seem decent although perhaps not good enough for professional graphics/photography work (maybe with calibration, I'm slightly colorblind so I will have to pass on having a useful opinion). If you display a pure white screen, you can see some unevenness to the lighting on the edges, although this is not uncommon for LCD TVs. It might bother a professional graphics designer, but personally I can only see it if I make the whole screen white. A pure black screen looks quite even with no apparent light bleed, and for a LCD screen pretty black.
I have not tried feeding 1080p video from anything except a computer, so can't comment on things like the upscaler quality. Some people report it as not having such a great upscaler. For use as a TV, at typical TV viewing distances, I'm not very convinced 4K is all that useful on anything less than 70"-80" screen. The retina display calculator (Google is this retina) says a 50" screen at 1080p is a retina display at 78", which is just over 6 feet way. For a computer monitor at 39" away, yes 4K is a lot better than 1080p.
I should also say the sound is not very impressive, but sound on HDMI does work. I have some $25 Logitech S220 powered speakers that sound better, although they did sounds incredible for the price, but see are not longer available (Logitech S220 2.1 Speaker System with Subwoofer). With the $4000 you saved, buy some better speakers if you want good sound.
I want to take off a tiny bit on the rating, as it could be a little better in a few areas, but at this price point, software companies should buy one for every engineer. I probably would not recommend it as a 1080P TV replacement. Something like the latest Panasonic plasma TV has more TV features and a better 1080P image (Panasonic VIERA TC-P55ST60 55-Inch 1080p 600Hz 3D Smart Plasma HDTV (Includes 2 Pairs of 3D Active Glasses)).
69 of 87 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Worth more!,
Personal note on those two reviews: The reviewers were idiots who failed to do their homework before their purchase and never even color calibrated the unit and then tried to compare it to their $5k+ top of the line, comes with a happy ending included plasma, but at least they spoke up and provided some entertainment value to the debate
I purchased this unit several weeks ago and it came in last week. I bought it to replace the Dell U3011 30" LCD Monitor on my computer in order to gain some sorely needed real estate.
I cannot say enough good things about it. It has so little light bleed that I had to hunt for it to find any at all. (rare for any TV in this price range)
The colors are crisp clear and vibrant. Blacks were decent, not great. (You should access the Service Menu and turn down the backlight a little. It really helps)
Picture Quality on my BluRays and BluRay Rips is great. Even 10-bit 720p content looks great on this panel. It's awesome to have a full web page open while watching a movie playing in a 39" diagonal window (yeah, I actually measured it with a tape measure)
As a tool for improving productivity, it's great. I can have 3 large spreadsheets open along with MS Access and I'm not spending half my time minimizing and maximizing windows.
On a lark, I installed Total Annihilation to see how it would handle a 16 year old computer game and the picture was amazing (TA will run at the panel's native resolution). I have also played 7-8 hours each in Skyrim, FONV, Max Payne 3, Bioshock1,2, and Inifinite and the picture quality is awesome.
One note: Running the Unengine Valley benchmark at 3840x2160 resolution at Ultra Settings with 8xAA causes much distress to my Crossfire 7970s. They aren't happy at all at having to work that hard, so I had to drop 8xAA down to 2xAA.
I wasn't sure if I could live with a 30Hz refresh at 3840x2160 but after a week of using it I placed my U3011 up for sale, and I haven't looked back.
The initial version of the Firmware mine came with had an issue where the resolution reset itself at random intervals. The screen would go black and, in about 2-3 seconds would reappear as if nothing had happened. Turns out a Firmware upgrade resolved the issue, and from the time I reported the issue it only took 1 day for them to correct it. Seiki seems to be very responsive to the needs of their customers and I applaud them for working out a solution as quickly as they did. I'm still waiting on Samsung to respond to the email I sent them 9 months ago about a minor issue I have with the menu on my Smart TV...go figure
There are no bells and whistles on this unit. You get a panel, some speakers, and a fair amount of connectivity options. That's it. turns out, that's really all you need. Seiki isn't trying to cram 200 options down your throat that you'll never use and charge an additional $3k for them.
I hope more people take advantage of what has been a surprisingly great TV deal so that it sends a clear message to other mfgrs that they need to concentrate on getting 4k2k rolled out for less than $25k per TV (Sony, WTF are you thinking?!?!?!)
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